Another Noob question re: traffic

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   seedyukposted 13 years ago

   Hi there, I have 4 hubs now all created in last 5 days. The total traffic spread round them all is just 150 views with average hub score of 59. Can you please advise if over time, as the hubs get older will they start to build a bit of traffic and rise in google's results or will I just have to start a tedious backlink campaign? Is it common to experience lack of traffic in the beginning then a rise? I have had each hub indexed in no time and socially bookmarked on 2/3 sites. Keywords are not to competitive either. Please help me I want maximum exposure especially for my ebay guide which I put a heck of a lot of effort into.

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   IzzyMposted 13 years ago

   Give it time - they will rise, and they will also rise in the search engines without you having to backlink or do anything further so long as you have optimised each page for search engines.

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      Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Izzy, I love reading this give it time stuff, and I still have hope, but it's a long time waiting.  IF I ever see this magic uplift I will write a celebratory feel good hub about it, offering to sell my secrets.  If I don't (see an uplift) I will just claim I did.

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         IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I have noticed it takes about 2 months minimum on average for hubs to find their place in the search engines. Some go straight to page 1 but then they drop back and it takes another 2 months for them to climb again.
         I've been here long enough to see some of my very first hubs climb too, after a year or more of being nowhere.
         Take heart, it can still happen.

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            relacheposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Somewhere in these forums is a post from either Paul Edmondson or Paul Deeds that says on average a Hub will reach it's peak of traffic (or reach) in about three years.
            
            This is a game where the patient Hub author wins.

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               Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Thanks relache.  I'm going to be rich in three years!  I might dance round the room for a bit.

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                  IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  LOL, I like your style of writing Mark! I never know if you are serious or not, but if you really want to make money you need to write around high value topics, or write around high search, but low competition topics.
                  I mean, you could write about...I dunno...top of the range BMWs for example...no idea if they are highly searched or high paying but you'll get the idea...but just write your usual fun stuff and see what adverts your hub brings? Of course if your hub contains nothing useful to the searcher they might just exit via an advert.
                  Bingo! more money to you!

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                     Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Hi Izzy...thanks.  I am serious about wanting to make money, but not very good at putting that want into the right direction.  The idea of attracting traffic and waffling till they exit via an advert had occurred to me - I have the waffle and exit points in place, it's just the small matter of traffic.
                     
                     BMW's is a very good idea and I shall tuck that one away (I've written too much already this weekend)

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                        Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Yes, and as Izzy suggested that, you should send her one as a present.
                        
                        You can send me a nice little ding-bat bolt.

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                           Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           I'm on a roll today - yours and Izzy suggestions have given me two more hubs.  Thanks to both of you.

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                              Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              Thanks? Just thanks?  We want tangible assets, Mark.

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                                 IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                 Drumming fingers here....waiting.....Oh and make it a black BMW with air con of course

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                                    Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                    You know, if it comes to the point where he needs a little direct persuasion, you live a lot closer than I do.. just saying..

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                                       Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                       Guys, guys - if I make enough to buy a toy one I shall be grateful.  Isn't gratitude enough for you?

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                  Bronson_Hubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Mr. Ewbie the question is, what color BMW?

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                     Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     I guess black would do nicely.  Perhaps with a stripe down the side and some cushions.

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               IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I've seen that, but that could be taken two ways. One is that the successful hub, that gets plenty views early on, will get a continuing rise in traffic which reaches a peak after 3 years, OR it could mean that some hubs never do much but after three years they will get some, and whatever they get at three years of age is the most they will ever get? This 3 years thing isn't very clear to me.

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         Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         After a month here, I was seeing 10 daily views from Google (.com, .ca, .uk combined).
         
         After 6 months, they were adding up to 50 per day. Now they are almost always 100 (well, not on a Saturday. 64 just now).
         
         This, of course, is just lazy me with no keyword research writing whatever the heck I feel like writing and hardly bothering with backlinking other than Twitter and Facebook.  Someone who works harder at it is bound to see even more.

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            Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks Izzy and Pcunix - I know I keep bleating on about it and I know I write too much about writing and not real topics, but I have a dream.
            
            btw Pcunix - I acted on your dingbat suggestion.

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            TopUniverseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            You have lot of hubs then why did you avoid keyword research for at least some hubs?

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               Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I'm not interested. I'm lazy. I have enough money, I don't want to change the words that I chose. I will do it sometimes, but my heart just isn't in it.
               
               It's all those things.  It's just not high on my list. I like to write. I like to write about what I want to write about and use the words that I want to use, 
               
               I have used the title tuner. Sometimes I will take its advice, sometimes I won't.
               
               Sometimes I will look at the titles competitive articles use. Usually I just shake my head and ignore all that.
               
               Shrug. It's just not my thing. If I don't enjoy something, no amount of money will get me to do it. Life is too short and money is absolutely the least important part of it.
               
               That could change if my other income sources dried up. But that is how it is now.

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   CASE1WORKERposted 13 years ago

   I agree with Izzy, I am just starting to see one or two no hope hubs, starting to get views, started off with one a week and now one a day which is amazing cos for six months they did nothng! other hubs get views straight away and generate views every day but even these do increase in time, so a hub that has always done well will increase even further over time

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   shoganposted 13 years ago

   I'm finally getting some real traffic (for a variety of reasons, I suspect).  Looking at traffic sources, Google traffic may be kicking in, too.  When I joined, I read several threads that marked a turning point at a few months, and that's about where I am now.  In other words, I feel hopeful!

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   Barbara Kayposted 13 years ago

   My website was created in 2001 and yes I'll agree about waiting for traffic. Finding new subjects is an entire different matter though. I think there are a million sites about every topic.

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   Bronson_Hubposted 13 years ago

   SpeedyUK,
   
   I'm fairly new, too.  I don't know much about SEO or how to use key words.  Traffic seems to be increasing steadily but not without participation with the community here.  As in really talk and don't just say cliche junk (unless the situation calls for it).  To do that, I suggest finding stuff you really like to read and talk about so it's effortless.
   
   Perhaps we can entice readers with punch and pie?
   
   I hope all your ebay auctions succeed and all your comments say A++++++++++ GREAT!11!!

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   IzzyMposted 13 years ago

   I'll send the boys round!

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      Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Well, give him some time. The Beamer could be on its way as we speak..

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   IzzyMposted 13 years ago

   You only asked for a ding-bat bolt (whatever that is)! You'd think he'd be able to arrange to get you that - even if a beamer is probably out of the question until he has written about it and earned a fortune.

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      Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Well, a ding-bat bolt may sound like a small thing to you, but good quality is quite difficult to attain since the America Ding Bat Bolt company folded after all the cheap foreign competitors flooded the market..
      
      I remember the ding bat bolts of my youth. My Dad had a wonderful set of gold plated ones his dad had given him - tragically lost to a bad second marriage, alas.
      
      A good Beamer is dead easy. All it takes is money, and Mark is L-O-A-D-E-D.

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   Mark Ewbieposted 13 years ago

   OK, OK, sorry -I took an hour or so away from the forums to eat something and watch a film.  I realise this is a dereliction of duty.
   
   Look, I'm grateful for the ideas, and you have set me on a path to sales.  No more silly writing stuff for fun and entertainment, it's hard sell all the way from now on.
   
   You want dingbats and beemers?  Cough up the readies and we'll lay down some deals.

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    andyozposted 13 years ago

    I thought the two month thing had sorted out one of my hubs.  It's one i like so have kepy a close eye on it, it was at number 11 on google for weeks then on thursday i noticed a massive increase in traffic, so I checked and bosh, number 1 on google!!
    
    However, today the traffic has dropped, so I looked again and it's gone back down to number 7!  Rubbihs!  Oh well, it has a brief stint at the top at least.

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       IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I've had that happen...but you know what? Another period of time will go by, and your will be #1 again, then it will drop a bit, then go back up.
       I had one hub in particular do that repeatedly, so I rewrote the whole thing. I turned it from a 500 word into a 2000 word hub, added relevant videos, photos...the works.
       
       Now its #1 and has been for months!

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