Brighthubs.com information???

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   David 470posted 14 years ago

   I believe the site is called brighthubs or something. From what I heard, they pay you upfront for writing an article. Can anyone give me some information about this site regarding what you can write about and how strict they are. Maybe your experience etc...
   
   I do enjoy writing here on hubpages. Also been writing essays for college. Never heard of an upfront payment site. This could benefit me in certain niches that I have trouble earning passively.

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   lrohnerposted 14 years ago

   The site is Brighthub.com.
   
   There are two parts to it -- writer submitted and content edited. I think the "writer submitted" stuff is pretty much like here -- no editors and you pick what you want to write about, but it's 100% RevShare.
   
   The content edited stuff is where you apply for certain "channels" (gaming, health, technology, etc. -- you can write in several channels) and you pick the titles you want to write from a list -- although you can pitch your own titles to your editor. An editor reviews your article and either publishes it, sends it back for changes or rejects it. To be honest, very, very, very few articles are flat-out rejected. Payment is $10 upfront for a 450-word article plus RevShare for the life of the article.
   
   They drop titles once per month and they pay once per month directly into PayPal.
   
   Is it tough? It really depends on the editors in that particular channel. I edit in the Health Channel and we're pretty tough there, but I just started editing in the Renewable Energy channel, and I think it's a bit easier there. I write on several topics in the Health channel, including Diet and Nutrition and Health and Fitness, and also in the Home Decorating channel. (I think that's the name of it...)
   
   Writing the articles isn't tough. There are just a few guidelines you need to follow, mostly around keyword placement which should be a breeze for you. The only thing you might find tough at first is that they just implemented AP style in their writing. It's taking a while for some of the writers to get used to it, but the editors are really willing to work with them to help them learn.
   
   Let me know what else you'd like to know.

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      David 470posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for the wealth of information you just provided. I did not realize there were two parts to the site. I am probably going more towards writing in "writer submitted," though.
      
      You said you get RevShare for the life of the article!? I did not realize that. Is the revenue sharing the same % in all areas ?
      
      I have written on infobarrel, and was never denied there, but I heard this site was more strict. Only wrote a few articles on infobarrel, and they were gaming related.
      
      As for AP style. I don't know to much about that. I have heard of MLA format, but not that. My writing teacher mentioned something about AP.

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         lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I think (not certain) that the RevShare split hinges on the success of each channel -- seriously not certain though. And honestly, I've never been able to figure out their RevShare calcs. It's simply not as straight-forward as it is here and it changes occasionally. Really, really look into the share before you post anything there if you're not doing the up-front thing.
         
         I do think you should try writing for the up-front plus RevShare. Trust me -- as editors, we earn our money. I have lots and lots and lots of ESL writers that I edit, meaning that your writing doesn't have to be perfect.
         
         AP-style is really easy. It's a bit different in number formatting and commas, but I have cheat sheets I can send you.

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            David 470posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Cheat sheets that sounds helpful.
            
            Wait, you said you edit english writers?  Does this website have a big staff cause infobarrel was not run by many people. ( I believe only a few guys)

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               lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I edit folks from all over the world -- ESL = English as a Second Language.
               
               I don't know how big the company is, but all of the managing editors and content editors are freelancers. So I get paid a small upfront for each article that I edit plus a percentage of RevShare for them. So most of the people you will deal with are freelancers as well. That's a good thing. They not only understand the world of freelancers, they have a vested interest in getting your article published and successful.

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                  David 470posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  On brighthubs, can we write about anything as long as it relates to that topic, or do we have to write for specific things?
                  
                  If possible, I would like to write about health/fitness/nutritional type of stuff. Mainly, about protein, carbs, fats. Then maybe specific exercises for people with different goals...

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                     lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Well, diet/nutrition/fitness all come under the health channel. Like other content edited channels, titles are dropped once a month and you choose from those.
                     
                     But...you can always pitch an article to the Managing Editor, and many people do. She'll usually accept it as long as it gets decent searches (so the need to do keyword research) and that particular keyword (not the topic -- the actual keyword) hasn't already been done.
                     
                     Let me know if you apply for the Health channel where diet/nutrition/fitness are before you apply. Just message me first.

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                        David 470posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        When you say titles are dropped, how do they go about choosing who writes about that?
                        
                        I would like to possibly write about specific rep ranges for bench pressing, and eating certain foods. I might have do a lot of pitching on there cause I have a lot of ideas for some some stuff.

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                           Smart Rookieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           You have to select (claim) a title to you want to write about and explain briefly how you plan to approach the subject. Give the editor an idea of what you'll be writing, as titles can be vague, even just a keyword phrase.
                           
                           Once the editor gets your claim and approves it, you'll get the green light to go ahead and write your article - with the assumption that you'll adhere to the guidelines.
                           
                           For what it's worth, I haven't written an article in several months and my page views are fairly steady. The upfront payment combined with the PPM rev share model is a more reliable source of  revenue than with PPC and aff marketing.  I plan to get back into writing there again soon.

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                           lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           Like SmartRookie said, you choose from the list of titles. Some editors require you to describe how you will approach the article before they approve the claim. They don't do that in any of the Health channels (diet, nutrition, fitness, etc.), so you're pretty assured of being able to write the titles you claim.

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   David 470posted 14 years ago

   They request a w9 form though. I do not understand to much about this, but I know this is primarily for freelancers. Before I could get paid by Adsense, I had to fill out a form. Does something similar apply here such as filling out your SS, name, payee name, paypal, and etc?
   
   Most people I ask don't know what a w9 is, only a w2.

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      lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yup. You need to fill out a W-9 so that they can report your earnings as a freelancer. It'll ask for all of the typical information including social security #. You're paid by BrightHub here -- not AdSense.

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         David 470posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         How many articles do people generally write on there per month? I have heard mixed reviews about the site in regards to how much work quota you can do.
         
         If possible, I would like to write at least 15+ articles there a month.

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            lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            When you start, you are limited to five articles per channel per month. Once your articles start to get decent pageviews, they lift the limit and you can write as many as you want. (You can go in at any time and make changes to your articles to help it along SEO-wise.) Only a certain number of titles are dropped in each channel every month (it differs by channel), so it really does pay off to write on a couple of topics in different channels.
            
            I really don't know how many articles most people write overall there, but I do know several writers where I edit probably 30 or more articles every month for them -- and that's just me (one of many editors in the Health channel) and that's just one channel.
            
            To what Oli said, I guess like anywhere else some editors are strict and some aren't. I usually clean up grammar, spelling and punctuation issues myself rather than sending an article back to a writer. I'll also fix any keyword issues, although I usually drop the writer a note so they learn. And if someone completely mangles something, I'll send it back to them so they can change it if it's the beginning of the month, but will just change it myself if it's towards the end of the month so they are sure to get paid for it.
            
            The worst thing you can do at BrightHub is mess up SEO and write really thin content. Since you have a passion for fitness, you should be okay. Most editors will work with you on any other issues. I think.

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               David 470posted 14 years agoin reply to this

               In that case, I will most likely focus on health/fitness along with gaming. Then I will have to figure out another niche to write in as well. Does this site have tags to add to the articles like hubpages does?
               
               When it comes to SEO, I usually tag long tail phrases along with single keywords relevant to the topic in some way.
               
               That seems like a small limit(article quota), but I guess it makes sense. So 15 articles is the maximum you could write total in the beginning. 5 maximum for each channel.

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   thisisoliposted 14 years ago

   They have pretty stringent editors at bright hub, especially since you only get $10.  The rev share is nice, but I am not earnign enough to make it any more than a little side job (Usually do an article every month or so on there).

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