Substandard Hubs

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    Multimanposted 7 years ago

    I would recommend as a new hubber, that when a hub is unpublished for being substandard, since someone had to review it first, that instead of giving a pre-recorded number of factors that MAY have caused it, that the reviewer give the SPECIFIC reason(s)that DID cause the problem.  As being new, one is doubtly penalized for not knowing what caused it specifically.  That puts a new person in the position of having to guess which one of 7 or 8 choices the reviewer felt was offended.

    1. Terry.Hirneisen profile image72
      Terry.Hirneisenposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I had the same problem.  If reviewed, at least point to some specifics.
      Totally agree

    2. Maddie Ruud profile image77
      Maddie Ruudposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      We do recognize that it is sometimes confusing for users, and are working on making the messaging clearer and more specific.  In the meantime, please feel free to email us, as others have suggested, when you need clarification.

  2. KCC Big Country profile image86
    KCC Big Countryposted 7 years ago

    If you have read and familiarized yourself with the terms of service you should be able to figure it out. You'll usually have a clue what you may have done wrong.  However, if you can't figure it out, you always have the option of emailing the HP staff and asking them.  It's up to you to figure it out.  They can be reached at

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      Multimanposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks.  I have emailed.

    2. Terry.Hirneisen profile image72
      Terry.Hirneisenposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I was uncertain which of the issues was perceived by the reader.  I did write and I did get an answer that clarified.

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        Multimanposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I hope you don't encounter the same problem I did, I wrote and got a very polite and friendly letter from hubteam which stated:

        "Your hub contains passage and phrases that are difficult and/or confusing to read. For example:
        Starting with working with designs you will have to trust that the woodworking design is correct and drawn up sufficient to be completed.  Please review the text of this hub and revise any confusing passages you encounter. "

        So I did, then republished, today I get this email not so polite from the hubteam:

        "Your Hub has been identified as a violation of our Terms of Use.
        Substandard - Unfinished or unlikely to be useful to HubPages readers; possibly generated automatically by a translation or article 'spinning' tool"

        I am not sure what a spinning tool is, but how the heck could you prove you didn't use one anyway, plus it is not even close to what the first letter indidcated was the problem.

        My response now is simply to delete the hub, as I do not want to be accused of repeated violations for sending it in again to be republished, god knows what tool I'll get accused of using next.

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          Multimanposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Whoops, now looking under help it appears I cannot even delete my own hub, jsut keep it unpublished.  Go figure.

          1. MyWebs profile image82
            MyWebsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Sure you can delete your own hub quite easily. Go to the hub and click on "Edit", then "Unpublish", then "Delete". Better to fix a problem than just give up and throw away all the work you put into this hub.

            As long as you are trying to satisfy staff's request to correct a problem hub they would in no way penalize you for that. I would interpret repeat violations to mean repeatedly posting hubs that break HubPages' TOU. Trying to fix a problem hub is different.

            Spinning software takes an article and 'spins' the words around to try and create unique content from preexisting content. The result is usually garbage that makes no sense. I'm guessing that the awkward wording you quoted led staff to suspect this hub was produced by spinning software.

        2. Terry.Hirneisen profile image72
          Terry.Hirneisenposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          I went ahead and started revising figuring improving it might cure the problem.  It was quickly published.  I was informed  I had the whole hub in one paragraph initially.  So that made sense.

          But then on another HUB I forgot I published it on another site.  That was the only place I had published it previously besides my site. I knew I had published it on my web site site.  So it was duplicated elsewhere on the web at two places.  I took it off my site and requested it be removed from the other.  Supossedly my problem is solved but the HUB is not up yet.

          I have only been on board about 12 days so these are lessons learned.

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            Multimanposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I've been on boar 5 weeks, and did the same newbie thing myself on my very first hub, and had a duplicate, but I was able to go back and re-write it deleting alot and keeping the idea but brand new words, and paragrpahs.  It was ok., but this particular one worries me because it has been thought that it might be a spinner.  I see what that is now thanks, but I was worried about adsense and amazon ads on the unpublished hub if that might cause a probelm with them as well, so I have gone in a removed all the ads I have on that page, and will try to delete it later maybe since I do not know after two writes whether it would still be approved, since maybe it is just too many hubs on the subject.  I may delete it later.   I can of have a bad taste in my mouth from this one, don't know if I want to revisit it again, a fourth time.  I edited what I thought my be the problem the first tiem then emailed to be sure found out it was wording reworded and wrote some more as well on it, and got this last little gem, so maybe its best to let it lay for a while.  Thanks for the responses Terry and Mywebs.

  3. alastairjacob profile image60
    alastairjacobposted 7 years ago

    If the Hub forum wants users to perpetuate it's existence a change will have to be made to the parameters that govern the hubs. Personal review of hubs is subjective and contrary to the ethos of blogging in general - If this continues the Hub Forum will cease to be used at all and become another forgotten internet fossil record sad

  4. Aficionada profile image83
    Aficionadaposted 7 years ago

    Welcome to HubPages, alastairjacob!

    New Hubbers sometimes think that Hubbing is the same as blogging, but it actually is not.  Hubs are content-rich, original articles and are not primarily personal in nature.

    The Learning Center, Help section, and FAQ's have a lot of information on the specifics of what is not permitted in Hubs. You can also read in these forums a lot of discussions, including facts and opinions, about the guidelines and the way they are administered.

    Here's hoping your stay and work here will be pleasant and productive! smile


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