I lost 500 views a day in a 24 hour period. Is this Panda 2.2?
2.2 is the update that is supposed to hit scraped content.
http://www.webpronews.com/google-panda- … e-2011-06?
There have been plenty of rumors of it going live but this is the first time I have seen any evidence of a sudden impact on my own traffic.
Overall, Quantcast is showing no major drop in traffic for Hubpages yet but this is as significant a drop in traffic for me as the original Panda.
I have a horrible (I hope unreasonable) feeling I am seeing the end of any significant income from Hubpages.
Or this whole thing just a stats glitch at Hubpages?
Lost about 30% traffic too,the last two days.
I asked this question yesterday morning, originally me and Wrylilt thought it was 4th of July but I've seen a slight retrun to normal since Monday
My traffic has seen a pretty big increase today, I gess the high quality content rises to the top right Will?
My traffic is WAY down today and it was pretty bad already from Panda. Who knows?
I won't panic for a little while but the scale of the drop on my accounts brings up bad memories of previous Panda slaps.
I'm not seeing it. According to Analytics, this will be my best day since June 30. Not by much, but I expect it will top the only other day that's currently beating it.
I've seldom had 500 page views a day to lose. I've no idea what these people are talking about with significant income and Hubpages.
page views are only partly relevant - its about the money you make which is not always the same as page views LOL
I can assure you that there were people making $1000's a month here - I was making hundreds - but its been slashed since Panda
My traffic isn't great, but not abnormal for a Saturday.
Not seeing a huge drop, although weekends are usually slower.
I wonder about those seeing huge drops, are these more product oriented hubs? Think about all the articles online about the latest gadgets, and the topics that generate high paying keywords. How many people are writing on those topics? There must be an overload of very similar content written about products.
Well, its good that it is not a site wide problem. It is still strange that after staying very steady since the last Panda purge, my traffic should suddenly drop- on two separate accounts.
Also, it is all kinds of hubs that are losing views not just the affiliate orientated ones.
July and August are known to be lousy for selling online but I have a lot of summer and kid-orientated pages that usually do well at this time of the year.
My traffic was very low. It hasn't been that low for months. It is normally lower on a Saturday, but not this low.
I've seen a few threads this weekend about drops in traffic. It could very well be a summer slump in regard to certain topics.
I found an article written in late June about Panda that's interesting, especially the sections on the Panda ranking factor and recovering from Panda. To be honest, I don't follow it too closely, but I thought some may find it worth a read.
http://searchengineland.com/why-google- … date-82564
Yeah I think it is hitting Hubpages a little as well, do you think it is the affiliate links like amazon, ebay etc on posts being factored in to lower rankings.. Hard to tell..
I've got the stats for my other sites now and page views are down around a quarter. I doubt they have been Pandalized so I am hoping it is just a wonderful sunny weekend right across the US and people are taking advantage of it.
The weird thing is Independence Day had far less impact on my visitor numbers.
I'm well down, and so is one of my friends here who I spoke to on the phone. My lowest for a long time.
Anyone else notice how slow the forums are here today?
I thought the forums have been slow for weeks!
T see stats have been stuck for at least the past 6 hours. Just as well, what we can't see, we can't fret about!
My traffic is always slow at the weekend, but it does seem especially bad together
My traffic from hubbers has been dropping. But not the Google views. I think HP is getting quieter, that's why they're pushing the competition to try and get more people writing hubs. I personally have pretty much stopped writing for the mo here, just because it makes more sense to put effort elsewhere until things either improve or don't improve...
I also volunteered for the subdomain experiment, so any weirdness with figures I don't take as gospel... I wish they'd give us an update on that, though the silence on it suggests the results might possibly be disappointing, but we'll see...
Panda is no more an endangered species, especially Google's panda.
Forget HP stats. Check Analytics. And Google can't tell the difference between scraped and crap content.
It. Can't. Read.
EXACTLY - why you'd use HP stats is beyond me - crude to be polite - google analytics gives you the details.
Earnst the forums are quite because many people have left because the of the fall-out from Panda - and I don't just mean the Google discounting of HPs - is more HP's managements reactions.
*nods* And HP never claimed they could match Analytics anyway. Besides which there's so much you can glean from using Google's stats. Love or hate Google, they're not the rampant beast they are for nothing
Hi Liz! I have been a bit surprised at how hubpages ignored suggestions made by some of the more experienced writers here. I have been discussing this with another hubber, also a retired businessman, and we think they have made some big mistakes that only a beginner would make when it comes to looking after a business that is built on content and relies on writers to get advertising results from their hubs.
Like yourself and many other hubbers I wonder why they did not at least explain what their reasons were for not building a better front end with a couple of simple fixes that stops the spammers before they get a profile, and to handle the slap in a more professional manner.
Because they are panicking Earnest - they have more to lose than any of us - but unfortunately that doesn't guarantee that they will make decent decisions under pressure.
But its really our own fault - it was easy to make money here - but really you need to control your own websites - and some of us forgot that
Agreed Liz. I am not losing progress anywhere other than hubpages at this time.
It is not worth my while to write here at this time, but I will anyway!
Once in a while I return to an old hub, revamp it and see a result. That isn't happening here at the moment for me either, so I am in go slow mode writing hubs or editing old ones.
I hope they hire a good business consultant soon!
Thanks exactly what I've been saying.
Do you have a personal site I can feature on my new site Earnest? I've been providing backlinks to my friends here on my site Direxit
Thank you for the offer, but no, I don't have a personal website anymore, I am near invisible apart from the usual social bookmarking sites.
I have built a few in the past, and kept my offline business on the first page of Google consistently.
These days I have other ways to make money.
Think it's all drifting off thread topic. Analytics won't tell you if a panda has struck, as it will only give you info on your own personal hubs and other website's views, which may well be completely different to someone else's.
You need to look at stats for site as a whole.
It's drifting off-topic because? Hubbers are asking for insight into stats, why's wherefore's etc, and you think that me suggesting that they should check out Analytics is off-topic?
Whatever. I'll go back down my noob hole then.
The above from a HP account. Doesn't show Google kicking off huh?
LOL, Frog Dropping is right because those of us who've been here a long time and have a constant daily traffic will notice if there there is a gradual decline.
I don't really care about the overall site's stats - I care about the performance of my hubs -that's what (used)to pay the bills
Well, what d ya know! I went offline for a few hours to drown my sorrows, and when I return my stats have doubled!!
If this is Panda 2.3, bring it on!
:LOL: my websites have made up any traffic lost and earning, fight those Kung Fu Panda's I say
heheheheh. Yeah. It's a glitch. Mine don't add up either. They are where they should be, instead of where they are.
You are right Izzy. Just checked mine too. Almost double what it was 3 hrs ago.
DEFINITELY A GLITCH!!
What the heck! Mine has doubled as well! best its been for a week
Considering that this is Sunday night in my part of the woods, the stats results, if they are correct now, are way up on what they normally would be for a Sunday.
The individual hubs that normally do quite well are soaring. Adsense is not showing the same results, but I know there is a time lag somewhere, so I hope they are correct.
I hoped it was a glitch. I figured so, as I was making money as the stats kept going lower. Must be something new in the works.
Yesterday my stats hit an all time low, but now they are about 50% up on what they have been for this time of the week for the last few weeks..
Google seem to be having another play around.... I just hope it continues to rise..
Check your stats again - I've just had another massive rise! I can't be the only one!
Yes, I've seen one also. I wonder if stats were stuck for a while?
Could be! Then what we are seeing is today making up for yesterday's record low, but without any actual change.
I'm seeing the same huge surge as other people.
The only thing bothering me now is that there were traffic spikes before the last 2 big Panda updates.
Am I paranoid?
After a really low weekend, I got a massive spike of traffic
When I checked GA, I found that it was all traffic to one hub and that the traffic was coming from Bing
Historically, I have had very little Bing traffic, although it has picked up a little post-panda, but one of my hubs has made it on to Bing page 1 for a search term and pulled in over 1,000 views overnight. Trust me, none of my hubs bring in this traffic on a daily basis, so I was gobsmacked. Even earned me a few Adsense pence!
Go Bing Go!
I haven't had a spike like yours, but it's still way up, and I've just checked and my extra traffic is coming from both Google.com and Google.co.uk. (and yahoo search)
Unfortunately without the clickers, but still...nice to see some traffic back!
Not one single click yesterday, despite the traffic.
Isn't this traffic roller coaster be caused by a stats counting problem at HP, and now the figures are playing catch up and counting from 24+ hours in the 24 hour figure as it incorporates the views that weren't counted yesterday. That's happened before.
Hi Spacey and Izzy, I checked my stats with Google Analytics too.
Since Panda, my total views have steadily remained at the levels I was seeing in November 2009 when I only had five hubs to my name. I have absolutely no motivation to write anything more on this site at present.
I can feel where you are coming from WriteAngled. This is only one hub, and better traffic to a couple of linked hubs. The rest of my traffic is still way down.
Shows though that good traffic can be had from Bing, but I find that getting my hubs indexed there is really hard
Panda comes under play mainly when you have submitted duplicate content in many website.. About traffic reduction i can't say anything. It has not happen with me.
My traffic has gone right down since Panda and none of my content is duplicate.
Spinning articles to make hubs is not acceptable practice on Hubpages either.
For the record we passed Panda 2.2 a while ago, Panda is a monthly occurence which re-evaluates the values provided by it's algorithm.
Sorry to be a dampener, but I am going to sit on the fence until there is either a significant Hubpages announcement, a Google announcement, or there are enough stats over a decent period of time to demonstrate a clear trend.
A jump in an indvidual person's or small group of hubbers' HP or Analytic stats over one or two days may be significant, or it may not be. As the previous few days have shown, the figures seem to be jumping around all over the place at the moment. My experience of working with computer stats has taught me to be cautious when interpreting them and HubPages has given me no good reason to change that approach.
As well as Google, the whole situation is further complicated by HP experimenting with the structure of the site using subdomains to try and improve SEO.
I do hope for the best, but you can't extrapolate a great deal from stats that are jumping around over a very short period, especially with limited access to all the figures.
Everything is just back to normal for me, today.
I will settle for normal after that little shock of two days ago.
It would be nice to see a genuine uptick, though.
Well, Will, mine dropped back a bit but I am still a bit up on last week and the week before.
Sad this is, my adsense cicks have disappeared, completely. None, nada. Two days now. Just turned Hubads back on a couple of days ago too, partly because Adsense was abysmal before, and partly because I have a better chance of reaching payout with Hubads which is half of Adsense's payout minimum.
CPM first day - which coincidentally was the same day I had a huge drop in traffic, was high, and abysmal since.
If it goes any lower, I will owe them money!
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