"This hub viewed as commercial" box

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   Max Daltonposted 13 years ago

   I removed the Amazon ads from some of my hubs and unchecked the "This hub may be viewed as commercial" box. Will this affect my earnings through the HP earnings program? Any advice would be appreciated.

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   psycheskinnerposted 13 years ago

   Um, it means those hubs won't earn anything. No ads.

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   Max Daltonposted 13 years ago

   Personally, I don't care about Amazon ad revenue, but it looks like I'm still getting paid the same for my page impressions. I can only deselect the option if I don't have any Amazon ads on there. I kind of figured Google looking at my hubs as commercial would drop me in page rank.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Google can't see whether your Hub is marked "commercial" or "non-commercial".  So it makes no difference.

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   psycheskinnerposted 13 years ago

   If you uncheck the commercial box the hub has no ads on it.

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      wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      At least no "hubber" ads on their 60%.  Can a non-commercial hub carry ads on Hp's 40%?

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         mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I am pretty sure it can, as people who do not have Adsense accounts sometimes complain they still see adverts on their hubs. I am certain it was pointed out to those hubbers (if I recall correctly), that HP were still entitled to earn from having their Ads on their hubs.
         
         Unfortunately the 'Help' Section is not very 'helpful' on this question, Quote:
         
         "Can I opt out of ads altogether?
         
         If your Hub is not commercial (i.e. does not link out), you also have the option of turning off ads completely. To do this:
         
             navigate to the Hub
         
             click edit
         
             click on the settings tab in the right-hand toolbar
         
             under the Ads subtitle, you can use the drop down bar to change your Ad Level Settings to 'None'
         
             uncheck 'this Hub may be considered commercial'
         
             click done editing"
         
         
         Although this says what will happen if you uncheck the 'Commercial' box, it only describes what happens if you also set the Ad level to 'None', so I am still not 100% sure of what happens if you uncheck the commercial box, but leave the Ad level set to 'High' etc (if it will even let you do that).

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   Rochelle Frankposted 13 years ago

   I have only one hub that I have marked as "non commercial"-- because I didn't feel right about earning money from a story about murderers I had met. It does get several views, but it does not show any ads on it.

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      mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Did you also have to set the Ad level to 'none' in order to categorise it as 'non commerical' Rochelle?

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         Rochelle Frankposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         It was a while back-- I probably did as much as possible to request no ads. .. and none are showing. It looks like you have investigated this further and have found the key.

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   mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years ago

   To further confuse things I just found this info too:
   
   "What does commercial mean?
   
   Commercial Hubs are required to have an ad level setting of High. A Hub is considered to be commercial if it meets any of these conditions:
   
       it is monetized through a non-HubPages affiliate mechanism
   
       it contains links to other commercial sites
   
       it promotes a for-profit business"
   
   Which might actually imply that you can still have Ads after unchecking the 'commercial' box, and possibly even on the high levels, but only if you don't have the type of external links or revenue sources it mentions.
   
   Personally I think in the vast majority of cases Hubbers will have their Ad level set on 'High' because not to do so would drastically impact on income potential. I do understand in certain cases you might wish to opt out of the Ads though, e.g a case like Rochelle listed above.
   
   I would also imagine Adsense encourage articles to be commercial as they can get more adverts on to them, (even on HP's Ad program, as a good chunk of HP Ads are Adsense Ads paid out by the HP Ad program).

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   Max Daltonposted 13 years ago

   I went in and re-clicked the "Consider my hub commercial" box. Misty, I found what you were talking about a few weeks ago and didn't take it to mean ads would be removed completely because I could still select a high ad level. Argh. I sent a letter to HP staff inquiring. Haven't done that before, so we'll see how that goes.

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      mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Max,
      
      I have also edited my comment immediately above yours. You might find the added info helpful. Good Luck

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   prettydarkhorseposted 13 years ago

   you learn everyday from the forum. I think the default is set to high in ads and commercial but when you add amazon, then I am not sure if the rule of words per amazon link still hold - 50:1 so that the page is still in Google terms. And you can still earn from HPads even if you set it to non commercial as long as you didn't change the level of ads. I am not sure though.
   
   Give us a feedback Max and welcome to HubPages.
   
   Merry Christmas to all the hubbers here.

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