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Shaun Higleyposted 12 years ago
Deborah Schroeder and I have published more Hubs for over 7 days now and they remain unpublished. Status: sent for publishing - Are you attempting to chase us away?
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  psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  It takes 2-3 working days (excluding US public holidays and weekends) to review anything. That is the same for everyone.
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  Shaun Higleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I have three other profiles in hubPages. It was never like this. I have just recently posted the same story on two different sites. On the one I got 40 accolades for my works and here it is classified as substandard. I think it's time to quit HubPages.
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  MelissaBarrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  If you posted it on another site then it is not permissible to post it here. It's copied material.
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  Shaun Higleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You know what, I am getting sub standard answers to my request here. I first wrote it for Hubpages. I tried to publish it Hubpages but was told it had to be sent for approval. My other sites are used for different features and writings. Each Profile I have with Hubpages is used to support a different way of thinking so that I do not duplicate my writings. Therefore it cannot be a duplicate. I published it first to Hubpages and then to a newspaper site. So MelisaBarrett, wilderness and Marisa Wright, do your homework before you falsely accuse.
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  Aficionadaposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  
  Ooops, wrong answer. If it's published anywhere else, it's a duplicate. Doesn't matter which appeared first. Do your homework before you falsely accuse.
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  Shaun Higleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  It's you who should do your homework. The paper was submitted to a non-electronic system. In other words no one on the internet has seen it ever other than on Hubpages. Your sarcastic remark outwits you. I notice Americans are very smug when it comes to freelance writing. Please note books are not only published in ebook format. They are also published in hard copy which means the publisher could be sitting with a copy waiting for my approval. Oooops your mistake.
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  Shanna11posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Woah now-- that remark about Americans was entirely unnecessary and reflects poorly on yourself and your own country. I understand your frustration as you try to understand what is going on, but please, have some decorum and respect for others instead of using baseless stereotypes to try and justify your frustration.
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  Shaun Higleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
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  Anna Marie Bowmanposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  If you seriously feel this way, then why are you here? And why are you asking for help, and then turning around and insulting those who are trying to help you?
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  Shaun Higleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  It was correct and in the right place.
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  Shanna11posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  No, it really wasn't. Unless you have some sort of numerical study that provides data on just how 'smug' all Americans are when it comes to their freelance writing, your accusation is unjust, offensive and plain ungrateful when you've come to these users asking for help. Despite your words in this thread, I don't believe that all users from South Africa are the same.
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  Shaun Higleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Let's get one thing straight. Firstly, I did not request their assistance. Secondly, I noticed you are eighteen and relatively new at writing. I am not going to insult you in any way as you still have much to learn. However, I do have a means to tell me how the Americans are at their freelance writings. I have just the news to follow. The news televised is not the same as the news on the radios. The news televised is smart and brightly painted where the news on the radio is Americans telling the truth. I would suggest you listen to the news sent from American Radio Stations to the rest of the world. Not a pretty picture at all. I have three other writers names on Hubpages. When I write a paper, want for a better name, it publishes immediately. When I write under my own name, I have this problem. Now you claim to be an expert. Tell me why?
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  Shanna11posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  When did I claim to be an expert? Oh wait, that's right... I didn't. I have no idea why what you write under your own name isn't getting published, but I can assure you that by insulting many of the Hubpages members nationality, you're not going to get too many decent answers to that question. Yes, I'm eighteen, but I fail to see how that has any part in this. You did in fact ask for assistance-- you created this thread asking why the administrator was so slow in responding. Call me crazy, but a question generally means you're searching for some sort of response or answer, which can be classified as searching for assistance.
  
  As to your comments on news radio and television radio, I have no idea what you mean, frankly. I listen to news radio and read the news, but I don't watch television news. However, I've never seen any particular news story that follows American's feelings on their freelance writings. Perhaps you could suggest an article or archived story that backs up your claim?
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  Aficionadaposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I see. So the term "newspaper site" used in the comment I quoted does not refer to "site" in the sense of being an online site? That explains the confusion. I would never have thought to call a hardcopy newspaper publisher a "site." Perhaps that is indeed a difference between South African and American English usage.
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  Shaun Higleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Have you ever been to South Africa. We have newspapers from school level up to and including leaving out the news on our president.
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  Shaun Higleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  There is a vast difference between South African, UK and American English.
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  Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  ....then why did you call it a "newspaper site"? If you use words carelessly, you shouldn't be surprised if people misunderstand you.
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  psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Actually they are 100% completely correct. If the material is posted elsewhere at any time it is duplicate. And HP does not allow duplicate material. Hubpages is really very simple to write for *if you read the rules* first.
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  Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I'm not sure I'm understanding here.
  
  You wrote it first on HubPages BUT it was not published because it had to be sent for approval. When did you publish it on the newspaper site? After you had published it on HubPages, or while you were waiting for it to be approved?
  
  It's the publication date that matters.
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  Shaun Higleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I have been with Hubpages for over 5 years now. I write under pseudonyms. I have many hubs. I have deleted many hubs. This is the first time I have had to stoop to having my hubs promoted is not on. And please do not bring me a rule that does not relate to this discussion. I am not advertising or promoting my post in this forum. I could give a hooha if they did close my account down. Hubpages has become very lame over the years. I have many complaints about them. Your ears would burn if you heard them.
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  MelissaBarrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  No need to do homework... I really don't care that much...
  
  Although next time you ask for help you might not want to be an arse when others try to give you it.
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  wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Ohhh - you're in for it now! When I said that (more politely, I must say) I was told off right promptly. It made my cry (or at least almost did) and feel Sooo bad.
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  MelissaBarrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I can be polite... I can actually be nice
  
  But it's a struggle for me right now and I see no reason to waste it on those who are throwing temper tantrums.
  
  I'm sure if there is a reply it will be absolutely scathing and I will rue (yes there will be rueage) invoking the temper of some anonymous internet person who's opinion affects me so deeply.
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  Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Don't worry about trying to be polite and nice, Melissa! We like you the way you are now!
  
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  wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  The horrors of ruedom will surely visit you tonight, Melissa.
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  wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  If your typical hub is a duplicate of something elsewhere on the web (or a near duplicate) then it probably is time to quite HP.
  
  As Melissa says, duplicate material is not permissible - HP requires original, unique writing.
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  Shaun Higleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Get your facts straight before you enter into this debate.
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  wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I see that you have added further facts - namely that you had not "posted" the same material in digital form on the internet. Although I might point out that newspapers in the US are generally available for reading online...
  
  You might have made that clear in the beginning - that your other posts of the material are not on the 'net. On an internet forum, it would not occur to me to "get the facts straight" by investigating each newspaper in the world to see if that was the "site" you referred to.
  
  However, I'm still a little confused - your reply to Marisa is:
  "It's not a copy. I wrote it. It's mine. When Hubpages offers to buy it from me it becomes there's." (sp) Now, that would seem to indicate that you believe you can post material on HP that is also posted elsewhere on the net. It is a common statement to see in these forums when someone tries to post duplicate material.
  
  HP cannot tell you where you can post your own material - as you say, it is yours to do with as you wish. And you can't tell HP what they are obligated to publish on their site - they do not allow material that is a copy of other sites, no matter who owns it.
  
  Finally, I might suggest that the next time you come to these forums for answers you might try hard to understand what is being said rather than jumping down the throat of everyone who tries to help you. It is not particularly conducive to getting help from people that owe you nothing.
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  Shaun Higleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Next time you see my name, pass on by....
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  Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, it would be - it's a copy. You can't post anything on HubPages which already appears elsewhere, whether or not it belongs to you.
  
  As for the time taken to review unpublished Hubs - the staff are only human. It's a fairly small team, and bottlenecks will sometimes occur.
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  Shaun Higleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  It's not a copy. I wrote it. It's mine. When Hubpages offers to buy it from me it becomes there's.
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  WryLiltposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  When you publish it on Hubpages, you agree to abide by their rules.
  
  One of their rules is that the content is NOT published anywhere else.
  
  The content is still yours - you can delete it anytime you want.
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  Shaun Higleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I am well aware of the rules. I abide with them in my other Hubpage Profiles. Admin is aware I have other Profiles. When I write under my own name I have this problem.
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  IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Looks like you made a mistake publishing under your real name, then coming on to the forums causing trouble.
  
  You are on this site with the same photo - http://labs.mirror.me/googleplus/101318353215722194366
  
  That site also lists your other HP username - http://mmminternational.hubpages.com/
  
  It also directly relates you to a company called bbbeecompliancyspecialists
  
  And it would seem you were a naughty boy - http://www.theforumsa.co.za/forums/show … AUN-HIGLEY
  
  http://www.theforumsa.co.za/forums/show … aun-Higley
  
  Oh and this too: http://www.facebook.com/pages/BBBEE-Com … 7365538729
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  brittanytoddposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Nice, Izzy.
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  VendettaVixenposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I approve of this.
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  Shanna11posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You are now hereby my Hubpages Hero.
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  Jamie Brockposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Wow!! I just read this whole thread....what was that dude thinking? Maybe he learned his lesson about stirring the pot.. do you think?
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  IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Doubt it. He has changed his ID photo, but doesn't appear to have closed his account, so he'll be back though perhaps under a different name. He'll have it in for me, for sure, but I guess I'll handle that when the time comes.
  
  The only thing that confuses me when re-reading this thread is where Anne Marie Bowman posts in response to his 'Hubpages is a scam' rant, which he has since removed.
  
  That article was written by an American guy who has tea sites, and should never have been posted here in its entirety.
  
  It was #1 in Google for the search terms, and now his work has been duplicated.
  
  Whether anyone agrees with it or not is beside the point, but it was not Shaun Higley's article to reproduce.
  
  The author of that article had very good grasp of the English language, the same of which can't be said for Shaun, judging by his forum posts.
  
  Hey lyndre, you are right LOL, Taggart would have been proud! Thing is, if you are going to use your real name and photo, you have to be on your best behaviour online.
  
  As many Facebook users are learning the hard way...
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WryLiltposted 12 years ago
I earn a couple hundred a month just from this account - and I have not written a hub in almost a year.

The only time I've ever had a hub unpublished is when rules were changed. It's quite easy to stick to the rules most of the time.

What EXACT reason were you given (in the black bar at the top of the hub) for the hub being unpublished?
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  Shaun Higleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  NONE. I even checked for violations. None returned. I have three other writer's names. I don't have this problem there.
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  WryLiltposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  So there is NO black warning in the bar at the top of the hub? If so, and you've resubmitted for publication you'll just need to wait till it's moderated and republished then.
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Peter Hogganposted 12 years ago
Shaun, can you clarify if the article or articles you refer to have been published online elsewhere.
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  Shaun Higleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  The article has only been sent for epublishing on Hubpages. I shared it with a group of students, on disc and not online, who thought it was amazing. I find it difficult to accept that it takes so long to publish this one. Like I said before. When I write under any of my other Profiles, I have my articles published immediately.
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  Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Hmmmm. Perhaps your other profiles are easier to communicate with. Hold on while I call in one of our greeters who I believe is trained just for this stuff. AEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
  
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  Shaun Higleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  hahahahaha!!!!! At least I can get a decent answer from you.
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sunforgedposted 12 years ago
Wow! That was a great read!

I wonder what the chances are of someone sharing that name in one region and writing in such a similar writing style.

I would go with zero , which is a very relevant number all round

The story told by that forum includes a character who liked to cite other peoples writing as his own, the associated FB footprint of that character likes to repost other peoples content also - that seems oddly similar to the original phrasing of the OP.
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  IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  His name and photo are in that first link - 2nd page it seems now. Same photo he uses now on HP.
  
  Sorry don't know how to make it bigger but it's the same guy.
  
  Its also been edited in the last half hour, as all mention of that company are wiped, but it was there.
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Randy Godwinposted 12 years ago
What's amazing to me is how this character could scam anyone out of money. First impressions should've been enough to scare them off!!

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  IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  LOL it should have done!! Typical conman though, all sweetness and light face to face.
  
  Oh and by the way, when I took that screenprint to post above, his links to BBBEEE compliance crowd are still there (gone now), but you know it shows up clear as day on my computer image.
  
  So waste of time taking it off, then denying it. I have proof.
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  Peter Hogganposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  LOL, looks like all that's missing from his avatar is a number at the bottom of the image.
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IzzyMposted 12 years ago
There it is here: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-cer4 … shaun5.png
Not huge, but readable
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Peter Hogganposted 12 years ago
Just noticed Shaun Higley has been awarded the Helpful Acolade!
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  IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Oh my, it must be awarded for posting in the forums, regardless of what is actually said!
  
  His one hub seems to have disappeared too. I wonder why?
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  Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I nominate him to be a greeter!
  
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  Peter Hogganposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Or perhaps a bouncer.
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lyndreposted 12 years ago
Well done Izzy Taggart wid be proud o yae

Hope hubpages ban all his accounts.
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readytoescapeposted 12 years ago
Well I guess this thread was a big old OOPS!

There might be a minor point in the article someone posted concerning Author scores and hub scores that no one can explain, and the skewed relationship to the 'no follow' rules. Hence the monetization split of the works on the site.

But perhaps that’s another forum.

Yes I’ll take my banning now for even mentioning it.
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psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago
I'll take "smug" over "dishonest" any day of the week.
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readytoescapeposted 12 years ago
Let’s see, Smug according to my dictionary is defined as;

contentedly confident of one's abilities, correctness and/or superiority.

Speaking clearly for myself, as an American Freelance Writer and Published Novelist, I think I’m good with that.

However I do prefer the synonyms of; confident, self assured and serene, but the distinction of superiority is certainly correct.
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Shanna11posted 12 years ago
Fair point, and I do recognize I myself pounced a bit too early when I got on his case about calling Americans smug, but I get the nagging feeling he didn't mean that in a positive way.
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  readytoescapeposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  NO, you pounced correctly, I have no doubt he meant the term “smug” to be a derogatory slur.
  Apparently I didn’t pour enough sarcasm into my comment, or you’re to sweet, young and innocent to recognize it. Good For you!
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