Are we allowed to republish our articles elsewhere?

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   youssefdoukkaliposted 11 years ago

   Are we allowed to republish our articles elsewhere and keep the original  hubs here in the mean time?

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      Paul Maplesdenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      No, HubPages' terms of service means that you cannot publish the same content elsewhere as is on your hubs. If you want to publish the content elsewhere, you have to unpublish it from here.

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      NateB11posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Actually, I kind of hope someone can clarify this. Because my understanding is that you couldn't publish something here on HP that you've published elsewhere already; in other words, after you've published it here on HP you can put it other places; because you own it. Only thing is, Google will index the version they figure most relevant, so people will find your content in one place but not the other.

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         Paul Maplesdenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Just to clarify, if you have published something eslewhere and wish to publish it here, you have to unpublish it from the other place.
         
         Likewise, if you publish something here, you cannot then publish it elsewhere.
         
         You can find more in this learning center article: http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/Mode … te-Content

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            NateB11posted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Here's the part that makes me think otherwise, from the learning center:
            
            "Even if you wrote the text or retain the copyright, you may not republish it on HubPages. When content is present on multiple sites, search engines devalue the content that has a later publication date. Thus, if you have already published content on another site and republish it on HubPages, your Hub and possibly the entire site will be penalized by search engines."
            
            The implication is that it is the order in which the content is published. I'm not going to republish any hub on another site, because I know it's shaky ground, plus I know the content on the other site would be devalued, and I'd be better off just putting a backlink to go back to the hub if I wanted that. But the language in the learning center on this issue is talking about not putting something on HP that has been published somewhere beforehand, and that google values the earlier publication,etc. Of course, I don't see much value in putting a hub somewhere else, but it's just the issue isn't clear to me.

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               NateB11posted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Here's from Terms of Use:
               [Not allowed to]:
               
               "Publish Hubs or Hub Content that are identical to, substantially similar to, or derived from other Hubs and/or content published elsewhere on the Web. This applies even if You are the owner of that content and/or have the rights to publish that content online."
               
               This still implies that you can't publish on HP something already published, but it doesn't say that once you publish it on HP you can't put it somewhere else.
               
               Here's another from Terms of Use:
               
               "HubPages does not claim ownership of Your Hub Content or Author Content. Such content will be owned by You or a third party from whom You got permission to post the content. "
               
               And then it goes on to say that HP can do stuff with your content.
               
               But at any rate, it's saying you own the content, which implies you can do what you want with it.

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                  Paul Maplesdenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  As far as I know, you have to unpublish elsewhere if you wish to publish here, otherwise the dupe content filter will pick up on it and unpublish your hub.
                  
                  Simone can probably provide an official answer.
                  
                  Paging Ms Smith.

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         Susana Sposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         You could publish a copy after you'd published on Hubpages if you really wanted to (if you gave it a bit of time first). After all, this happens a lot with content theft - duplicates are posted on the web and your hub is not penalised by Hubpages for it.
         
         I wouldn't advise it of course, but theoretically a hubber could do this.

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            Paul Maplesdenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            A hubber *could* do it if they wanted to be in violation of HP Terms of Service. As far as I understand, we aren't allowed to publish content here that is also published elsewhere, whether that's before or after publishing on HubPages.
            
            Of course, content theft and copying is a different matter entirely, but I believe that HP would frown on an author publishing their hub content elsewhere.

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               Susana Sposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               HP would frown on it (and like I said I wouldn't say it's a good thing either) but since you own the copyright of your hub you can do what you want with it as long as it was original to HP when first published.
               
               The TOS only relates to previously published online content.
               
               In my nearly 4 years on HP I've never seen or read anything to contradict that.

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            tamronposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            You brought up an interesting point.  Why doesn't Hubpage duplicated content filter alert you if someone else copies your hub?  It seems like it would because your Hub is duplicated.  That would be a great feature.

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               psycheskinnerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Sometimes it does.

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               FatFreddysCatposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               There is an icon on the "stats" page that says "possibly copied by someone else," which looks like a copyright symbol (a letter "c" inside a small circle). I've never had it show up on any of my Hubs, even though I have had several of them copied/scraped/stolen in the time I've been here so my guess is that it doesn't work particularly well.

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         NateB11posted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I think there is one simple fact: It is a bad idea to publish the same content in more than one place on the Internet. Google penalizes for it, so it shouldn't be done.

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            R Nicholsonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            That is not strictly true.  If you embed a "canonical link" on the duplicate page which references the original, there is no Google penalty.  The duplicate simply won't show up in searches.

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               NateB11posted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Well, it's interesting after all these years I see that's true. Although, I'm not familiar with a"canonical link". It's funny the lively debates that used to occur here. Or maybe still do, haven't participated in the forums in a long while.

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   Randy Godwinposted 11 years ago

   Apparently no one has told the thieves about this! 

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   psycheskinnerposted 11 years ago

   I have seen plenty.  For example: "Duplicate content is not allowed on HubPages." http://hubpages.com/faq/#duplicate_content   
   
   I think it is possible that non-enforcement of rules against duplication with older hubs is being mistaken for permission to duplicate if the hub is published first.

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   delleaposted 11 years ago

   I used to republish articles and found it to be a waste of time. Instead of republishing the same article (or simply rewording it and reposting it) there is a better method that will get you more exposure. I have blogs and I obviously have an HP account. What I do sometimes, for example, is write an article in a blog, and then write another article in HP on the same or similar subject, and I cross-link the two articles. By doing this, if someone reads your blog first and finds your article interesting, if it's linked to a hub they will likely click through to the hub to read more about it, and vice-versa. This will also help you to feed more search engine traffic to your articles from both directions. So far I've found this to be a very effective method for cross-promotion without violating anybody's rules, etc.

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   Lauren Amy Smithposted 11 years ago

   HP won't stand for duplicate content so unfortunately, no.

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