The Hub-Views Accolade Should Be Revised

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   feenixposted 12 years ago

   Presently, the subject accolade is set up to reflect when a hubber reaches 1000, 10,000, 100,000, 1,000,000, 10,000,000 and 100,000,000 views.
   
   I believe that it should be revised to where it would reflect 1000, 10,000, 25,000, 50,000, 75,000, 100,000 views, with the all of other levels remaining the same.
   
   I believe that such a change would provide many hubbers, especially many of the newer ones, with more incentive to hang in there, as well as provide them with a degree of recognition that would set them apart.
   
   What do you think?

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      PegCole17posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I like your suggestion. It is a long time between 10,000 views and 100,000. For those of us who do care, that is.
      Peg

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         Dale Hydeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Agree with Peg.

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            feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            And I agree with you, Dale.

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            PegCole17posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks Dale. Some of us need that little spark of encouragement when we write. Others could care less. For them, let them hide their accolades.
            Peg

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               feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Hello again, Peg,
               
               Yes, let them hide their accolades, but they should not be trying to discourage the rest of us from getting a little satisfaction.

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         feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         And I believe that the vast majority of the contributors to this network do care, including many of the ones who claim they do not care.

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      mts1098posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      These icons are nothing more than acknowledgment for something completely out of our control.  I do not pay much attention to them but as long as they are here, I agree that the gaps should be more realistic...cheers

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      Sally's Troveposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I tend to agree with you. It's a REALLY long way from 100,000 to 1,000,000. I love long-distance driving, and I make good use of mile markers to gauge progress from one place to another. I think a lot of hubbers would like to see that page view accolade change a bit more often, as you and others say, for a boost to morale.
      
      Accolades don't mean much of anything to me, which is why I don't make them public. But for those who like them, what's the harm in introducing a few more milestone huzzahs?

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         feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I really do like your "driving-a-long-distance analogy."
         
         For example, when I drive from Los Angeles to San Francisco (a little over 400 miles), I like it when I see signs that say, "San Francisco 100 miles," "San Francisco 50 miles," "San Francisco 25 miles" ...

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            Sally's Troveposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Exactly.

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   WriteAngledposted 12 years ago

   Since the accolades are totally meaningless, I don't care either way. I don't even know what it says on mine!

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      Uninvited Writerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Ditto to that.

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      feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      That is merely your opinion.
      
      I assure you that a very considerable number of the writers who contribute to this site do not consider the accolades to be "meaningless."

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   Cagsilposted 12 years ago

   The thing about that accolade that always bothered me was the spacing between 100,000 and 1,000,000  - also 1,000,000 and 10,000,000 views.
   
   I figured it would have a 500,000 accolade and 5,000,000 accolade. To make sense of the system.
   
   I don't really care either way.

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      Wesman Todd Shawposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      RIGHT!

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         feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Hey, Wesman, I really do like your response.

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            Wesman Todd Shawposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            It was totally egotistical.....I think I can hit 500k this year.  If you delete hubs.....those views are subtracted, so I probably won't delete any more.....

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   feenixposted 12 years ago

   Perhaps it stems from my military background, but I like being awarded "medals."
   
   Also, and strictly from a business standpoint, I believe that if HubPages gave recognition for 25,000, 50,000 and 75,000 views, a lot of the newer writers who are presently "giving up" and going away would stick around longer.
   
   Because of such human characteristics as ego, pride and competitiveness, a lot of hubbers whose hubs have garnered 50,000 to 80,000 views, for example, would be pleased to be recognized for having a number of views closer to what they actually have, rather than only 10,000.

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   Arlene V. Pomaposted 12 years ago

   I hide my accolades because they mean nothing to me.  You don't get paid for your accolades.  You can't sell your clips to an editor and say, "Here are my accolades.  Hire me because I earned them."  In other words, accolades are not an indication of a professional writer.  It may be important for the beginning Hubber, but accolades have nothing to do with getting work or making online money.
   
   Many people who begin writing on this site don't last because they don't make money right away or quickly find out that they are making online pennies that won't be paying their major bills.  It has nothing to do with wanting to reach a certain amount of page views.  To shoot for a certain amount of page views instead of concentrating on writing good hubs is a waste of time.

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      feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      With all due respect, I disagree with almost everything you wrote.
      
      For one thing, I believe that the majority of the contributors to HubPages are not in it for the money. They are writing on the site as a pastime or hobby, to improve their writing skills, for therapeutic reasons, to have a journal or record of their thoughts, ideas, opinions and views, and I could go on.
      
      And "to shoot for a certain number of page views instead of concentrating on good hubs is a waste of time??!!!"
      
      Well, I have been a writer for years; I am a professional writer; I earn income from my writings, and I have a fairly large following both on HubPages and out there in the "real world" -- and I always "shoot for a certain number of page views."
      
      As a professional writer, not only do I view writing as an art and a skill, I also view it as a business, which translates to the more views my works receive (whether it is for one of my books, op-ed articles, blogs or hubs), the more money I make.

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      relacheposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      This.

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   Mark Ewbieposted 12 years ago

   Some people like them, some don't care.
   
   I like them, and now I have none left to get.  Apart from a HOTD and the million views - both of them probably not achievable.
   
   I realise they are pointless baubles and there is something lacking in me that I like collecting them but hey...  it's a free world.
   
   If you want to see accolades gone mad, have a look at Squidoo.

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      feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Mark, I really do like an honest person, and obviously, you are one.

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   WriteAngledposted 12 years ago

   It amuses me that the OP seems to think people who say they care about accolades are more honest than people who say they do not.
   
   Some people simply don't buy into all the stuff about being competitive. For those of us who do not, trophies, medals, badges, prize certificates, leader boards, etc, etc really are meaningless.
   
   I have hidden the accolades on my profile. I have nothing of which to be ashamed, as I have eleven of the things (took a brief look now simply to check; I never go into my profile otherwise). However, I have hidden them to be true to my principles. If I think they are meaningless, why should I want to flaunt them all over the place?

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      Mark Ewbieposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I appreciate your honesty WA.  I think that feenix simply recognised within me a man of integrity and it was that, rather than my view on the accolades, that persuaded him.
      
      For my part I will try to continue with the web of deceit.

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         WriteAngledposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         The sort of accolade that does mean something to me, Mark, is when a client contacts me about a job and says something like:
         
         "I really hope you will be able to do this for us, as this is a very important project. I know that your work is always of excellent quality and that you will not let us down"
         
         For that reason, I never compete by bidding for jobs against other translators either. I want the "accolade" of knowing that the client wants me, specifically me, to do the job for him.

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            Mark Ewbieposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Damn I want that badge...

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            feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Wow, you wouldn't be a good fit for the promotional staffs of Coca Cola and Pepsi Cola, or General Motors and Ford Motors.

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               WriteAngledposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               You really are too funny!
               
               Having spent the past 8.5 years very successfully as a freelance, working when and how I want to work, why on earth should I be concerned with how I would be assessed as a wage-slave cog in some boring monolithic corporate structure!

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      feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      "I," "I," "I"...
      
      So, you are not concerned about being recognized for who you are, what you do and what you have achieved ("...I have eleven of the the things...").
      
      Okay.

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         Uninvited Writerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Achieved what exactly? You posted a number of times on the forum, big deal None of this is interesting to the general public who we wish to attract.
         
         I admit I like seeing an accolade once in a while but they are invisible to everyone else.

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            feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I apologize for getting out of line. I am definitely a work in progress.
            
            It is just that I believe that a great many people do get a lot of satisfaction from receiving and displaying "tokens" that show what they have accomplished and so forth. 
            
            For example, the walls in the offices of both my physician and dentist are covered with their diplomas, certificates, awards, etc., etc., etc.

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               Uninvited Writerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               But to me, diplomas are not on par with these types of accolades. Doctors post their degrees so you can tell they actually graduated from college.

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                  feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Everything is relative, as they say.

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                     Uninvited Writerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     But, hey, if it`s important to you that is all that counts..

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                        feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        That is all I have been trying to say.
                        
                        Or, I could say, what is unimportant to one person is very important to another.

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                           Chris Hughposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           You know, it's funny, but I don't have my diplomas on the wall. But I enjoy the accolades. I wanna get that cool black and white one. I don't even know what it's for;)

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                              feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              Hi, Chris,
                              
                              I want to get one of those cool black-and-white ones, too.

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      Dale Hydeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      It is not about being competitive. I simply like to see my accomplishments at times.

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         feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Very good answer, Dale. I wish I would've thought of that.

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         relacheposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I've been setting my own milestones and goals (what some people might call accolades) since I started writing on this site, and it's been a LOT more meaningful to achieve those than receiving a random graphic.  You might consider trying it sometime.
         
         My reward to myself for all of my 2011 achievements with my online writing is that I'm taking a trip to Europe this summer.  That sure as hell beats getting a pat on the head for page views.  And it's going to make for some good, original content too.

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            Wesman Todd Shawposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            VERY COOL!!!!!!!!!!

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            feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Each human being is unique.
            
            As an example, each person has his/her own view of what is rewarding.

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   Reality Bytesposted 12 years ago

   I got a 50 hub badge the other day, I did not realize it was my 50th hub until I noticed the accolade.  The same was true of 100k views, so the badges do give a wake up notice of achievements.

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      feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Congratulations to you, Reality Bytes. Sincerely.
      
      Formal recognition of one's accomplishments is a wonderful thing, regardless of the fact that some people claim it is unimportant to them.

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   Mark Ewbieposted 12 years ago

   Just remembered, I got one of these a while back...
   

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      TNBposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      WTF?! I want one! Share your secret, Mark Ewbie.

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      feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I have never received one of those accolades, but I have no doubt that a lot of people here on HubPages would like to see me get it.

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         markbennisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Hey feenix I am with you on this one, I feel the accolades can spur a hubber on and give them a nice confidence boost, for all their hard work that they have accomplished.
         
         So I think it would be a good idea if the gap between the 10,000 and 1,000,000 accolades could be shortened, then for those who enjoy a new accolade can receive a much needed boost in that recognition.
         
         After all there is nothing to loose by doing so and for those who care more to gain.

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            feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Mark, thank you for the "aye."
            
            And one of the reasons I decided to submit this topic is I believe that revising the page-view accolade, in the manner I suggest, would enhance the operations of HubPages. Such a revision would give extra shots of encouragement and motivation to many of the site's contributors.

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               markbennisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Yes and I agree with you 100% it can be hard at times to keep motivated and positive and no more so than these days with (panda & penguin) making things more difficulty for hubbers.
               
               So at times like these every bit of encouragement would be appreciated by most I believe anyway.  After all reducing the gap between such milestones can only serve as a reminder to keep up the good work, and help to persevere onwards and upwards. 

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                  feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Because I served in the U.S. Army for four years and worked in the corporate world for over 40 years (now, I am retired), I have learned that most people gain a great deal of satisfaction from receiving such things as medals, plaques, certificates and, yes, accolades.

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                     markbennisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     I second that feenix, they do give the earner a sense of pride and the feelings for self achievement and being recognised as so, certainly instils a sense of worth for ones efforts.  It can be a motivator and an improver to a hubbers output, giving them that little boost to go that extra mile and keep doing what they are doing.
                     
                     After all this is a tough game for those who are in it for the long haul and every hubber at some point needs that bit of encouragement. Even if to just gauge your efforts against your achievements and to get a better perspective, especially when the traffic monster is eating away my daily fix!  LOL, it can be surprising how such things can affect us and I am a traffic watching addict, LOL…

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                        feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Hey, Mark, very wise insights.
                        
                        And I, too, am a traffic-watching addict.

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                           markbennisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           That’s encouraging to hear, well, I hope someone in head office feels like us too, and really considers what you have proposed here, after all it is a very positive incentive that can be appreciate on both sides.
                           
                           Anyway off to help out with the kids, for now take care and all the best, Mark.

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                              feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              Seeya, Mark.

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      Sally's Troveposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I also want one of these. If I had one, I'd actually consider making my accolades public.

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      Wesman Todd Shawposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I WOULD ROCK THAT ONE WITH PRIDE!

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    Marcy Goodfleischposted 12 years ago

    This is a great idea - the accolades help motivate people, and that dry spell can leave people a bit frustrated or feeling unrewarded.

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       feenixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Hi, Marcy,
       
       As I have stated before in this forum, most people really do get a lot of satisfaction from receiving some kind of formal credit for what they have accomplished or achieved.
       
       And I fully agree with you. The 250K, 500k and 750k marks should be added features, too.

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    Marcy Goodfleischposted 12 years ago

    As an added suggestion, I can see benefits to accolades for 250k, 500k and 750k.  The span between 100,000 and 1 million is even longer than the climb to 100k.

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    feenixposted 12 years ago

    Hello, WriteAngled,
    
    Please chill. I was just being light-hearted.
    
    I have no doubt that you are very good at what you do and that you are truly a professional.

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    feenixposted 12 years ago

    I conducted an unofficial poll among some the hubbers I know and nearly all of them agree that the Hub-View Accolade should be revised based on the suggestion made in the opening comment of this forum.

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