This is going too far!

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    Crazdwriterposted 11 years ago

    http://www.sphere.com/nation/article/te … 2F19285015

    This makes me mad! As a preschool teacher I oppose what has happened to this 4 year old just because he likes his hair long. Schools shouldn't police kids hair like that. They can ask the parents to get it cut but hello if it's not disrupting the class then why not let him keep it the way he wants it?

    I saw a student in Hawaii, a cute little boy, have hair LONGER than this kid. Longer meaning it can be in a full ponytail and half way down his back.

    this is just plain stupid!

  2. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 11 years ago

    so, its part of the dress code. I'm sure the parents knew that. cut your hair future hippie.

  3. Misha profile image67
    Mishaposted 11 years ago

    How else would you bring up a brick for the wall?

    1. Kidgas profile image72
      Kidgasposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Great reference.

      1. sooner than later profile image61
        sooner than laterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        sure if individuality is defined by a haircut. I.E. outward appearances. America's favorite.

        1. Kidgas profile image72
          Kidgasposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          I was referring to the Pink Floyd song.

          1. sooner than later profile image61
            sooner than laterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            all in all you're just a-nother brick in the wall. duh de dumm

            yeah, that is a good one.

    2. sooner than later profile image61
      sooner than laterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      When in Rome

    3. cheaptrick profile image74
      cheaptrickposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Pink Floyd.........

      1. rebekahELLE profile image88
        rebekahELLEposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        perfect.

        crazd, what kind of school was this? even if private, especially if religious private, I don't get it. all the men of Bible times had long hair.

        my oldest son had long hair at preschool age for a while, he looked cute. later in high school and college he wore his hair long. straight A student, graduated with high honors from college and is very successful now in his career. he cut his hair when he was ready for a change. now he wears it quite short.

        it's a ridiculous rule, they should be concerned about more important topics than a kids hair let alone what all of this says to the young boy.

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    Crazdwriterposted 11 years ago

    sorry misha don't really understand what you are saying...

  5. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 11 years ago

    saying a haircut policy is using identical bricks to build a uniform wall.

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      Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      aaaa thanks sooner now I get it

      and I think he looks totally cute with his hair that way.

      1. sooner than later profile image61
        sooner than laterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        I won't disagree.

  6. Randy Godwin profile image61
    Randy Godwinposted 11 years ago

    How short can the girls wear their hair in Texas elementary schools?

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      Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      not sure...probably as short as they want them

      1. Randy Godwin profile image61
        Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Sexual discrimination in grammar school?  Yep, that's Texas alright.

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          Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          it's so sad sad that little boy shouldn't be punished like that

  7. rebekahELLE profile image88
    rebekahELLEposted 11 years ago

    his hair isn't even that long! hair has nothing to do with intellect or social behavior. geez. roll

    I've never heard of hair length being a part of the dress code in pre-school... there used to be a little guy at the school I worked at with hair down the middle of his back. that's what his parents liked and so did the little boy. he cut it when he turned 5, before he entered kindergarten.

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      Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      aaaaa I bet he was cute too huh rebekah?

      1. rebekahELLE profile image88
        rebekahELLEposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        yes, totally, and he was a fun kid, got along with everyone.

        that's terrible to do to a young child. he didn't hurt anyone or cause a threat to others. Texas?

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    Crazdwriterposted 11 years ago

    A dress code for hair is pathetic...I mean come on someone's hair isn't going to stop anyone from learning. and to jump right into suspending the little guy? I think I feel a hub coming...

    1. sooner than later profile image61
      sooner than laterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      where would one find such boring news?

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        Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        calling my hubs boring huh? nice sooner nice

        1. sooner than later profile image61
          sooner than laterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          no, no.

          its very... yawn.... what was I saying.

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            Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            oh well that is just one opinion from someone with only 11 hubs so doesn't matter to me. I have plenty of fans who enjoy my hubs.

            1. sooner than later profile image61
              sooner than laterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

              easy. I'm just markin ya.

  9. habee profile image93
    habeeposted 11 years ago

    This is crazy. When I was teaching, I railed against one of our rules - the one that said girls could wear earrings but boys couldn't. I saw it as discrimination.

    I do agree that a dress code should be enforced. For example, kids shouldn't be able to wear bikinis to school. If it's not disruptive, however, I don't agree with banning it.

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      Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      good for you habee!

  10. Misha profile image67
    Mishaposted 11 years ago

    Sure it was about Pink Floyd.

    And yes, individuality can manifest itself through haircuts, too - especially at a tender age. But this is not exactly my point. I would talking more about obedience. To become good bricks, kids need to learn to obey, and here is just another case of teaching  them to obey...

    1. Randy Godwin profile image61
      Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with teaching kids to obey rules Misha, but the rules must be worth obeying in the first place.  What do you tell a child when asked why they must wear short hair?  Other than it's against the rules, I mean.

  11. Misha profile image67
    Mishaposted 11 years ago

    I did not say I agree with that. smile

    As for your question - you teach blind obedience, ideal character trait for a brick.

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      Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      a boring brick lol

    2. Cagsil profile image82
      Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      lol lol lol

  12. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 11 years ago

    I'd shave that kids hair with sheep clippers.

    1. Randy Godwin profile image61
      Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I don't doubt that at all.

      1. sooner than later profile image61
        sooner than laterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        thanks.

        1. Randy Godwin profile image61
          Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          No problem.  Next, you can graduate to teenagers and then you can try it on an adult.  Let me know how it turns out.

          1. sooner than later profile image61
            sooner than laterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            "if I had a dog with a face as ugly as yours, I'd shave its butt and make it walk backwards"

            1. Randy Godwin profile image61
              Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

              Why shave it, you claim to be proficient with sheep shears, don't you?

              1. sooner than later profile image61
                sooner than laterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                its from a movie. thats all.

                why do you always viper post?

                1. Randy Godwin profile image61
                  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Yes, I know it was from a movie but it had nothing to do with my post.  I viper post because I'm a viper sort of guy, and, lots of people dislike snakes so I know they don't like me just for my avatar. Kind of the opposite of posting a sexy girl or guy avatar.

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                    Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                    I'm definitely not one of those peeps. I'm one of those rare girls who love snakes smile

                  2. sooner than later profile image61
                    sooner than laterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                    how creative of you...

  13. habee profile image93
    habeeposted 11 years ago

    I think teachers should be concerned with more important things than the length of a student's hair!

    You wouldn't believe how much valuable class time the administrators expected us to waste on dress code:

    Is that skirt/dress more than four inches above the middle of the back of the girl's knee?

    Is that a flip-flop or a sandal?

    Does that shirt display gang colors?

    Does her pink hair disrupt class?

    Is she wearing a bra or not?

    Is that a sleeveless shirt or a tank top?

    Seriously, it got to be pretty ridiculous!

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      Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      You missed a classic one that happened here in Cali in a HS. A principal was fired thankfully over it...she was checking to see if girls were wearing thongs or regular underwear at a dance at school.

  14. habee profile image93
    habeeposted 11 years ago

    I don't believe snakes have hair?

    1. sooner than later profile image61
      sooner than laterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      ouch, even if you didn't mean it. haha

      1. habee profile image93
        habeeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Huh? Ouch? Randy's avatar is a snake. I wasn't calling you a snake!

        1. sooner than later profile image61
          sooner than laterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          I know. It looked like you called him a snake. Not on purpose I'm sure, but funny to me.

  15. habee profile image93
    habeeposted 11 years ago

    I'm sure over the past 36 years, I've probably called Randy much worse! But he's a big boy with a thick skin - he can take it!

    1. Randy Godwin profile image61
      Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I know you have!  But thanks for the big boy part.

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    TMinutposted 11 years ago

    Oh no, habee, pink hair? My granddaughter wants to dye her hair pink, her dad has okayed it. I mentioned that it's against school rules, he asked why, what can I say? Who knows? He said they can just deal with it. I've never figured out how some of the rules came about - gang colors, yes. Except that puts COLORS off-limits, makes no sense, gang symbols would make sense. Hair length and color? Not seeing it...

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      Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      how old is your granddaughter, T?

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        TMinutposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        She's five, in kindergarten, she'll be six next month.

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          Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          aaaa...I love 'em at that age. they are so sweet! and hte stories they come up with WOW! I love just chatting with that age group and well of course younger lol
          I can't believe she decided she wants pink hair. did she see a favorite character with pink hair or something to make her want pink hair or did she decide on her own?

  17. habee profile image93
    habeeposted 11 years ago

    Man, I hated enforcing the dress code! I told the administrators if I had wanted to be a policeman, I would have attended the criminal justice program at our local college instead of driving 100 miles every day to go to a university. I taught seniors, and many of them already had a chip on their shoulder, so to speak. If I jumped on them the first thing when they passed through my door about something trivial, do you think that puts them in a mood conducive to learning?

    And by "you," I'm not referring to anyone here.

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      Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      oooo habee they would have been all over you if you had to tell the seniors they are against the dress code. it wouldn't have been pretty

  18. habee profile image93
    habeeposted 11 years ago

    Alright RD and Sooner - don't make me stop this car!

    1. sooner than later profile image61
      sooner than laterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      this is us getting along.

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    ralwusposted 11 years ago

    Cuss the dam dress code!

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      Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Hear hear! big_smile

  20. Cagsil profile image82
    Cagsilposted 11 years ago

    Dress them up like obedient groups and prevent individuality?

    What next? Will they require dental x-rays for proof that your kids are brushing their teeth?

    How pathetic. roll

  21. Ivorwen profile image75
    Ivorwenposted 11 years ago

    If it was a private school, I could see the dress code for the hair, as many private schools have a very specific outlook.  For a public funded school though, I don't think they should be able to tell the kid how to cut his hair.

    One of my boys has chosen to grow his hair long, and it does get him some weird looks, but is also helping to toughen his skin, and decide what matters to him. 

    -For the record, I went to a private school that had a quite strict dress code.  I choose to be there, therefore I chose to abide by the rules.

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      Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Good for your son Ivorwen. and I don't see why boys should get weird looks if they have long hair. A lot of girls have very short hair.

      1. Ivorwen profile image75
        Ivorwenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        Just looking at his face, it is hard to tell if he is a boy or girl.  Luckily, he has broad shoulders and is very athletic. 

        Around here, most people look quite traditional.  smile

  22. habee profile image93
    habeeposted 11 years ago

    Hey, RD, wanna drive up to Dillard Sat. to see the snow? Oh, never mind - I forgot you're going to Mauk.

  23. profile image0
    ralwusposted 11 years ago

    I thought we went through this shiiiiit in the sixties already.

    1. profile image0
      Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      well they keep trying to revive the fashion.....

    2. Randy Godwin profile image61
      Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      We did Ralwus, at least I did.  Rock and roll!

  24. habee profile image93
    habeeposted 11 years ago

    Yeah, Charlie, but the new anti-establishment groups now are the tea party folks!

    1. Ivorwen profile image75
      Ivorwenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Too true!

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    TMinutposted 11 years ago

    I went to a private school for 12th grade, they didn't allow boys to have long hair because of the Bible. That one verse about it doesn't even make sense - "Doesn't nature itself show you that if a man has long hair, it's a shame to him?"

    Well, no. Men's and women's hair both grow long if left alone, some longer and healthier than others. The whole hair issue is odd though on some young boys it makes them look like a girl (they aren't yet old enough to avoid the androgynous look).

    1. Ivorwen profile image75
      Ivorwenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Why don't these schools ever quote the this verses counter part, about women? "But if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her;"

  26. habee profile image93
    habeeposted 11 years ago

    The sixties were good to Randy! lol

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    Crazdwriterposted 11 years ago

    I went to private school from K-8th and had to follow the rules. girls could only wear skirts or shorts even when it was cold out in the winter. I've been back since and they have changed that rule. Thanks St. Michael's! lol

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    ralwusposted 11 years ago

    I saw that child on the video, he is really cute. I'd like to pinch his cheeks. I see nothing wrong with his hair. If it was a private school, OK, but not this, and so young.

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      Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Wasn't he just the cutest? aaa he should come to Cali and I'll be his teacher and let him grow his hair out! he should be playing and interacting this the other kids, having fun while learning. not worrying about some stupid rule and his hair sad

  29. profile image0
    ralwusposted 11 years ago

    I just don't understand it. Stupid rule.

  30. profile image0
    Crazdwriterposted 11 years ago

    I agree ralwus I don't agree with the rule at all and it's 100% stupid sad Poor kid!

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    Crazdwriterposted 11 years ago

    Sooner...RG...if you two want to fight then by all means take it somewhere else. it's annoying to follow a convo on here about the 4 year old and the rules when you two are bickering worse than a 4 year old yourselves.

    1. Randy Godwin profile image61
      Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry CW, it was the sheep shears comment which riled me!

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        Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        it's okay Randy just ignore him.. don't sink to his level.

        1. sooner than later profile image61
          sooner than laterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          please. you were going to save the world tonight over some attention grubbing parents who want to make a statement by not shaving Jr's hair.

          I'd vote for you for president.

        2. Randy Godwin profile image61
          Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Impossible, I dealt with this same narrow minded attitude years ago when free thinking was frowned upon.  Some people want everyone to be the same.  The same meaning like themselves.

  32. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 11 years ago

    you would say that.

    1. profile image0
      Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I call it like it is honey

      1. sooner than later profile image61
        sooner than laterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        not you dear. I was ignoring you.

  33. habee profile image93
    habeeposted 11 years ago

    Crazd, I think both of these guys need a sound spanking.

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      Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      naw...they would enjoy it too much but too bad I can't kick one out of my thread. that would be nice

  34. sooner than later profile image61
    sooner than laterposted 11 years ago

    good night.

  35. habee profile image93
    habeeposted 11 years ago

    Well, it looks like one just left.

  36. profile image0
    Crazdwriterposted 11 years ago

    we shall see...

    and I know RG that he is pushing your buttons but commenting only feeds to the fire and makes it unpleasant for everyone.

  37. Cagsil profile image82
    Cagsilposted 11 years ago

    roll

  38. profile image0
    Crazdwriterposted 11 years ago

    well I am going to try and get some sleep..will write my hub on this topic tomorrow as well as another one I just thoght of big_smile
    night guys!

  39. Randy Godwin profile image61
    Randy Godwinposted 11 years ago

    It just seems it's hard enough for kids to develop a sense of individuality already these days without making things worse. It's almost as if they have to see what everyone else thinks is cool before they can decide for themselves.  Perhaps it's just me.

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      Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Nope it's not just you RG I agree with you! It's hard for kids to find themselves when there are so many rules and regulations and peer pressure.

      1. Randy Godwin profile image61
        Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        I'll be looking for your hub CW.  Good nite!

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          Crazdwriterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Night Randy it was nice chatting with you again after so long lol and I just realized something RG..same initials as my hubby lol

  40. Lisa HW profile image65
    Lisa HWposted 11 years ago

    My elder son's hair wasn't quite that extreme in kindergarten, but it wasn't all that far off.  If anyone EVER told me he was violating a dress code I'd have to get all my parent pals together at the school committee meetings and make a stink so big they're really regret it.  (Unless this was a private school, and I missed that reading the article - in which case, different thing.)

  41. SweetiePie profile image84
    SweetiePieposted 11 years ago

    I have been a sub in classes where boys had long hair, and it never bothered me a bit.  The school should not even ask his parents to cut his hair, and they are better off with out this school.  The people who administer it seem really narrow minded and uptight.

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    AdviceDoctorposted 11 years ago

    Why the hell do schools have dress codes? I'm telling you, American schools are not education institutions, it's prison.

    When I was in 7th grade, I had hair long below my shoulders, I wore bermuda shorts everywhere and flip flops. No one said a damn thing, and yes, I realize I was a nerdy kid.

    And this is a 4 year old kid! And he's going to cut his hair off and donate it to a company that makes wigs for cancer kids! This just makes me MAD! This kid is probably smarter than anyone in his goddamn class!

    AS A PARENT I'm going to share my opinion in something.. I'm going to put this as nicely as I can: TAKE OUR KIDS OUT OF THESE PRISONS!
    Hey.. Did pretty good.

  43. Uninvited Writer profile image81
    Uninvited Writerposted 11 years ago

    When I was a kid in grade 8...way back then... girls were not even allowed to wear pants and long hair was just being accepted in school smile

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    TMinutposted 11 years ago

    Everyone, really, it's not THAT bad to have rules like this! On a sports team, everyone wears a uniform to promote team pride, identity, and unity. Schools try to instill pride in the kids to improve the environment; kids HAVE to be there so they may as well be proud of the school they go to and of being part of it.

    Yes, I'm arguing both sides but at least we should acknowledge there is another one.

     
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