Christians, Why do you give your problems to God if God Gave Them To You?
Everyone says that God does not give you more than you can handle. So then if you think that you cannot handle it, you give that opportunity to learn back to God? What does that say to the God that You are refusing?
This is a great question. But the premise reveals a thought of God as "over there" and us "over here". A relationship with God is a partnership not a contractual division of duties partnership but a loving marriage type partnership.
"problems" here is used like a noun. Like a hot potato. Problems in the sense of a God sharing notion are more like "intellectual problems" to be solved and resolved in tandem with God.
"give" here suggests a separation between God and us. When in a Christian notion giving is a gift to be shared not tucked away and kept for oneself.
So there is here in the question and statement a revelation of sorts that one cannot look at things spiritual the same as things material.
We share "problems" with God and in so doing are relieved of handling them alone and are given an opportunity to grow both in self and in our relationship with God. Now we receive a challenge from God and if we choose to run away by ourselves with that challenge the result, good or bad, is of this world and not of a Godly reality. If we choose to stick with our God and work through the problem with both His help and our labor the "problem/challenge" becomes a stepping stone in our walk with God.
It is not a God or us notion. It is a God and us notion.
I hope that sheds some light and gives room for your own interpretation so that we can all understand more clearly. You see you (or maybe God) just presented a problem which I can work through either with His help or by myself. I prefer to stick with my marriage and work on the "problem" with God.
Let us not forget that the way you phrased the question brings home an important fact. Most often for Christians the biggest problem is not the problem but in how we deal with it. Sometimes we forget and treat problems like things when we should not.
I Peter 5:7 says we are to cast our troubles to the Lord. So doing this is Biblical.
The late great Mother Teresa had some interesting things to say about this.
"Everyone says that God does not give you more than you can handle." She said she wished God didn't trust her so much.
Also, 10 years after her death, Time magazine revealed she could not feel God's Presence the last 48 years of her life. She used to write desperate confessionals to her priest, begging him to tell no one and to burn them as soon as he'd read them. Many other magazines reveal her crisis of faith. No doubt this had a lot to do with all the suffering she witnessed. Why was it there in the first place?
When the bible says God won't give us more than we can handle, it doesn't mean to say that he gives us problems, but that he allows us to have some problems (as in the case of Job). But at the same time, God provides a way for us to deal with these problems, and yes, one way is to lift the problem to God and ask Him to deal with it, instead of us. It's a show of our faith, that Jesus died for our sins, past, present and future, and we can in faith call on Jesus to help us to get through difficult times.
Oftentimes, we create our own problems. This is because we have no faith, and we create the same mistakes over and over again. It becomes a pattern. The purpose of grace from Jesus is to help us to break patterns and learn from our mistakes and to change our lives for the better. We need supernatural intervention for this, and this is accessed by lifting our problems to Jesus and receiving his grace.
Sometimes, we are true victims of problems such as poverty, war or natural disasters. These are times that produce great suffering and hopelessness. And yet there are survivors of these events and oftentimes they will say that clinging to their faith gave them the strength to keep on going.
Giving our problems to God is a way of acknowledging that something is too big for us to handle, and we are asking for help from the highest power. The Bible says in Jeremiah 29:11-14a, "For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. I will be found by you," declares the LORD, "and will bring you back from captivity."
God wishes well for his people, but we as people have to do our part, and in the New Testament our part requires faith in Jesus and surrendering all aspects of our life to him so that we can become the person we were meant to be. Not a robot, but a living, breathing person who is not a slave to habits of self destruction and the like.
When we give our problems to God, he doesn't always take them away, he often strengthens us so that we can conquer them ourselves.
In The Book of Mormon there were people that were enslaved by a wicked king. They trusted in God and prayed for help. This verse explains what happened.
" And now it came to pass that the burdens which were laid upon Alma and his brethren were made light; yea, the Lord did strengthen them that they could bear up their burdens with ease, and they did submit cheerfully and with patience to all the will of the Lord."
Later on in the story they were freed, but notice how the Lord didn't save them immediately. He strengthened them because they were humble and gave their problems to God.
I don't think that God necessarily gives us problems, we give our selves problems and the devil gives us problems. It is up to us to keep our faith through our problems and not blame God for them. Keeping our Faith through our problems and not blaming God is the key to getting out of our problems.
You are right. So why do they not ask for ehlp instead of telling God they cannot handle it and Giving it all back when he gave it in the first place. God is Within us and he is us because we create us and we do get stregnth and growth that way.
Presumably, because some consider Him the religious equivalent of a "too hard bin". Not necessarily a foolish thing. - Others, (and North America is renowned for this) run to psychiatrists at great expense for the same reason, and usually get worse advice (no advice is good advice!)
I think that it's much a case of "a problem shared is a problem halved" (to use another idiom). If you vocalise the difficulty to another entity, be it God, a shrink, a friend, your support group, or the neighbours' dog, you've put it into words in a cogent form. Not only do you feel that someone else cares - you're not alone, (and that helps to get you back into focus), but you also have something tangible to focus on. And that helps you work through it bit by bit and probably resolve or reduce it.
What you say to God, or Buddha, or Allah, or The Great Poo-Baa in the West or your pet cat doesn't greatly matter. In the cats' case you're making noises and acknowledging it, and that pleases it, which in turn pleases you. The same may be said of any or all or the others mentioned. And you've unburdened yourself - great - back to life.
BTW, "everyone does NOT say that "God does not give you more than you can handle." Only bigots and the severely blinkered would make such a Damn' fool generality.
An atheist cant logically not believe in God and then claim God exists for the sake of argument. Its weird to do that. I call it the "blame God paradox".
Who said anything about being atheist in my question? I can understand you blame Gog/Satan/Someone else thing though.
my apologies; I was sure you stated you were an atheist elsewhere.
yes a person can blame anything or anyone but when the blame is directed to God that person is saying "god exists".
OZ, This ? wasnt about if God exists. Its about Indian givers.
Not sure I can sense where you are coming from here. If people are saying God gives us problems then they must believe in God.
Are you a theist or an agnostic or an atheist?
Oz I am not going to put myself nor let you put me into a box and label me. I just asked a question on Christians and non-Christians alike.
I was only trying to get a better understanding of what the theme was here.
. I feel its ok to pray for help even if we know God gave us a problem.
Not everyone thinks or says that god does not give us more problems than we can handle. Some of us---me included, belief that our problems result entirely from our actions or the actions of others only making our problems the results of very real, very temporal conduct.
I think if we all stopped blaming a myth for our problems and starting thinking about our problems as it would seem we should in the 21st century (sans superstitions, sans demons, sans gods), then we could all begin the very real, very temporal process of solving our problems, or better yet, not allowing them to emerge.
A difficult question to answer, as it is nor clear as to which god you are referring to. Certainly there is more then one god as their definitions vary and the method of worship and adherence to given dogma is different. For example, if Allah gives you the problem of cutting off the head of another; what knife is the better tool? If the Catholic god wishes you burn another at the stake; what wood would be best? If the Jewish god asked you to kill your son; what would be the best method? The Protestants mimicked the Catholics when given the task of eliminating dissenters by their god; they burnt them alive too.
It is understandable why theists have such a problem with this. Not to worry though. We must not forget that all of the gods are omnipotent and all-knowing and in that, they know what are choices will be and an appropriate resting place has been prepared.
Even before a word is on my tongue,
behold, O LORD, you know it altogether.
Please expound. Ambiguity has no value. If you mean 'wise' , discerning or reasoning you are right. That one is not would indicate one may be less than human and more chimpanzee.
I admit I’m a bit confused with the nature of the question. But here goes...
The Bible doesn't say that God will not give us more problems than we can bear. It says that He will not allow us to be TEMPTED more than we can bear (I Cor. 10:13). It also says that God is not the one who tempts us (James 1:13); that’s the enemy, and then we have free will.
The source of our problems is not from God. Problems are a result of the sin in this world. Sometimes our own actions lead to issues, other times life just happens. Again, this world is imperfect as a result of sin. However, we have a remedy.
Now when it comes to overall problems, we’re instructed to cast all our cares on Him. It’s for our own benefit. We’re also encouraged to not worry about things but to rest in Him. He can handle it. He sees the bigger picture and can cause everything to work together for the good if we believe. We just need to do our part…come to Him, have faith and be obedient.
It all comes down to this: What is your perception of God’s character, and who is He to you? When you have a relationship with Him, you see Him as a father who loves you. I am His child, and I need Him. When I fall on my own, get hurt by others or go through something tough that’s character building, I run to Him. With His Spirit in me, I am more than a conqueror. And no matter what challenges I face, I can have joy and be at peace.
God may give us challenges in life and these challenges accepted in the right manner can make us to be better people.
We encounter problems all the time, such as not enough money, being unemployed, falling off a ladder and breaking your leg, being fired for no explainable reasons. God does not do those things. We and our fellow men to these things to ourselves and each other.
Through faith in God, we can overcome or deal with these problems. I was born with poor eyesight. Recently, I developed cataracts, when the cataracts were removed, the doctor could put an implant in my eye that provided the correction of my glasses for distance viewing. I am seeing things that I had not seen in years. God gave my doctor the ability to learn and the skilled hands. The doctor improved my sight as a result of scientific achievement.
We create many of our problems or they are created for us by others. I cannot explain every situation, so do not ask me to try. My biological family and my family of today, wife and son, have faced problems. God has been there to help us deal with them. Maybe the final conclusion was not what we would have chosen, but it was his conclusion to the issue. We just have to accept it and move on, or feel sorry for ourselves. Moving on and dealing what is handed to you is always the best path to follow--you never know where it will ultimately lead.
Yes Lady Guinevere. The question is thought provoking since we assume God already has permission to solve our problems. But now I realize that we must address the issue of our inability to handle the peace that God brings when he addresses our problems (because He is infinite in His wisdom). In all our actions we are guided by God and yet we forget to address that emotion of thankfulness with gratitude (Seems the same? I keep the latter as a stronger emotion representing God) and this leads to the question -- are we truly worthy of God? That should be our apex of learning and our problems too, since we will bother to go beyond some point. By accepting God, we open our minds to more possibilities for learning. Thank you for the question Lady Guinevere, it has refreshed me a lot.
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