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   RPirateposted 13 years ago

   Hello Hubworld philosophers,
   
   I always had these thoughts, thinking about different planets.  Have you heard of Kepler-22b? I recently wrote a hub about it.
   
   Do you believe in other life?

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   Cagsilposted 13 years ago

   It's irrational to think we are special and/or the only ones in existence.
   
   What do think about this planet? So far, from what I've heard, it's pretty cool. Other than that, before the people of this world begin thinking about inhabiting another planet, when they have trouble handling this one is absurd.

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   melporposted 13 years ago

   I believe there is life somewhere else in the universe but at various levels of complexity. So far we have not found or received any evidence of life with the capability to communicate to other worlds in our own galaxy and we will never receive anything beyond our own galaxy considering the nearest galaxy to us, Andromeda, is 2.5 million light years away. I believe life in other places are pretty much at or near the same stage of development  as we are in terms of complexity with most of them probably at the level of microbes in nature since the universe is only 14 billion years old. We ourselves only been here 4 billion years so there is a high probability that most of the other planets out there were probably formed around the same time as our Solar System, about 5 billion years ago.  As far as Kepler-22b is concern if there is life there we will not be hearing from them anytime soon. It will be at least 600 years before we hear anything from them if they just sent out a signal today. Also the planet may not be there anymore because the Kepler probe is picking up light that left that planet 600 years ago.

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      lobobrandonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      What could have happened to the planet? 600 years is quite a short time when you consider the universe and planets..

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         Mikeydoesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Exactly. Who knows what a couple generations is to whatever lives there, you know? 600 years in the long run is obviously not a lot of time. Although that may become false for humans in the next 600. Anything can happen though, so.
         
         I'm fascinated more with the deep oceans, because I think we have a much better chance of finding all types of different underwater species(on other planets), maybe even civilizations(stuck underwater, whether through ice or them not being able to come to the surface). How do they transfer information, do they look similar to something in our deep sea? The possibilities are endless, which is why I wish we'd stop spending our money on weapons tech and start into figuring out life.
         
         I also recently wondered what the deep sea would look like if there was lots of light/water/energy down there. One would think that with all of that extra light and energy civilizations and evolution could take place much faster(possibly spawning an intelligent lifeform). We see civilizations all over the place in our world. For instance our coral reefs have plenty of fish, and it is starting to look more and more like how humans interact.
         
         We will likely find something living or dead from another planet. The dead thing is a wildcard on how big it may be, but I believe the first living thing we find will most likely be microscopic.
         
         Studying the deep ocean and space gives you a good idea that life is out there, but to say that there is a smarter being than us.. I'd probably say no, unless they just can't reach us. Our technology over the next couple hundred years(possibly less) will give us a great idea if there are intelligent beings out there or not.
         
         Anything is possible and nothing is fact, I love thinking about this type of stuff.

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   RPirateposted 13 years ago

   Melpor. "since the universe is only 14 billion years old."  Sorry for saying this, but i think this quote is insane, how can someone measure this? Nobody know's what's out there. It's a mystery, a HUGE one.

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      Mikeydoesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah, I don't believe that any of those number are exact and never say they are 100% true, but they do have some merit to them, a lot of signs are pointing to a beginning of the universe there is no doubt about that. I often think that the universe is one of many organism(don't know what else to call it) that reproduces and makes new universes.
      
      Would I be shocked if there was no beginning or we aren't even close to right? No, I think it would be cool.

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      skyfireposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_universe

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   RPirateposted 13 years ago

   Mikeydoes, I like your thoughts. It actually is very cool, that people fantasize about such things, they even come up with numbers lol.
   
   Who's to deny that a comet once hit the earth, comet contained life and this is how it started?
   
   Have you heard of Mariana Trench? It's the deepest part of the world's ocean.
   2,550 KM deep and 69KM wide. Must have been a huge comet.

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   Richieb799posted 13 years ago

   I watched a good documentary on Youtube which discussed what the lifeforms would appear to look like...although I think that we are pretty unique in our ability to interact with our surroundings to the degree that we do.

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   RPirateposted 13 years ago

   Skyfire, you do realize that internet, TV, magazines are powerful crowd manipulating tools, and not always the information is correct?

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      skyfireposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Not going to doubt Wikipedia here especially with all the references in the footer. Check talk origins too if in doubt. Also If possible see NASA's official site and if that's not enough you can also check SETI's docs. Information manipulation on the internet is one thing and dissecting it and verifying it with the reputed sources is another thing.
      
      You have to understand that we're basing our theories on BBM and singularity model and any other progressively verified model. If 13 Billion assumption is wrong then so is our calculation of light traveling from stars far away from a particular distance captured by satellites and many other planet related observations. If our assumption is wrong and if the light took more time to reach to us for image capture then we're looking at past image of any random planet and star out there, that means we could be looking at ruins or dead planets or early evolution in case of any found planet or solar system. So far, as per our calculation, we've successfully landed bots on mars and moon and therefore, this calculation is pretty much verifiable.

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   RPirateposted 13 years ago

   That still remains a theoretical guess. The 13 billion figure.
   
   Do you work for NASA, they way you talk about it feels like you have invented the space. I'm kidding.

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      skyfireposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Well like most of the things in science, "verification & falsification"routine of this data is going to be in future as well. It is close possible figure that you can get with all the progressively tested models and theory. CERN's data with recent experiment is going to add more confusion. LOL@nasa comment.

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   calpol25posted 13 years ago

   If their is intelligent life out there then they may think we are not ready yet, I mean if you look at the history of the humans we are quite hostile, with wars and deaths through intolerance, en slavery, and hundreds of others things. Maybe the intelligent life may we are a danger to them. Who knows? Be great to find out its really intriguing. :-)

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      RPirateposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      "Maybe the intelligent life may we are a danger to them" Yes, they are afraid of Justin Bieber, a girl who can steal all of their women. I'm kidding! 100 smiles a day is always a good thing

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         calpol25posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         thats a good one about Justin Bieber :-)

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    RPirateposted 13 years ago

    Success!

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       calpol25posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Success indeed! I have had hysterics at that, I alway say "one laugh a day, keeps misery at bay"

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          bloggernotjoggerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Yes, I believe there is quite a bit of life out there. Didn´t somebody find bacteria in Antartica a few years ago that was shown to have come from Mars? It seems that the cosmos is a ¨soup¨of organic materials and it´s just a matter of time for some of those ingredients to manifest under the right conditions.
          
          I also believe that with so many possibilties, a full range of life exists from viruses to, what some may consider, godlike entities.

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             RPirateposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             What do you mean by "godlike entities?"

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                bloggernotjoggerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Life that has evolved to a very high level.

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