Is it just me, or is the idea of NBC moving The Tonight Show to 12:05am (where it is no longer even "tonight" but "tomorrow morning") to accommodate Jay Leno Retarded with a capital "R"?
Conan must be extremely flattered that Fox wants him. I'd be surprised if he takes them up on their offer, tho!
What do you think of this situation?
Let's get the Leno Lovers fighting against the Conan Clan!!! Hoo ha!
i honestly don't know how Jay Leno got this big.
I'm not in favor of either of them. So, I guess I really don't or shouldn't even post. However, since it's an open forum, I've said what I needed to say. Thank you.
If your show fails; that's it. Period. Conan should take the Fox offer. He's a better talent than Leno any day of the week.
Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing CBS dump Letterman (after the intel that came out about his personal dalliances I never felt the same about him). Then they could give Conan that spot.
It would be great for Conan to be able to move his family back to NY where they belong.
Agree tho. It just ain't been the same since Heeeeeerrrrreeeeee's Johnny....
Jay is a very funny guy. But Conan is on another level. He's a comedic genius. Unfortunately I think a big percentage of the American population don't "get" a lot of his humor. Still, what Leno and NBC are doing to him is just messed up! I invite anyone else to check out my new "Conan Vs. Jay" hub...
Bad deal all around. NBC can't produce shows that lead into the late night shows. Leno can't produce at 1130 or 10 and Conan gets the shaft.
I feel bad for Conan in this whole controversy. NBC is not giving him a fair shake in letting him build his audience.
Its because Conan has no audience. Has it ever crossed peoples' mind that other channels run cheap ads at 1 and 2am forcing people to watch Conan's old show?
Jay's audience is x12 that of Conan.
If you were marketing NBC, which would YOU choose to make you money?
personally, I think this is a boat load of b.s. from my understanding both conan and leno agreed to this. Leno agreed to move to an earlier show, and conan agreed to take over the tonight show on a specific date. and according to the contract, from one source, it says nbc would have to pay conan 50 million dollars if they tried to move him to a later time. therefore, if nbc is trying to weasel their way out of conan's deal to compensate jay, then it tells me that only are they virtually screwing conan over, but they're not even going to give him a chance to grow into his role.
heck, it took jay leno time to grow into the role of the permanent tonight show host. sure, he guest hosted on it before, but it wasn't the same as being the permanent guy on there. so why shouldn't nbc allow conan to grow into the role? i mean i could understand if he was failing to meet their standards after at least a year on the tonight show, but it hasn't even been at least 6 months. i think conan would be an idiot if he didn't just walk. hire himself a good lawyer to get the 50 million dollar penalty clause enacted since nbc is in breach of contract, then sue nbc over this. then take the fox deal.
plus, fox would be a much better fit for conan for various reasons as i'll gladly list right now.
1. fox has a stronger prime time line up than nbc, to support him. lets face it, nbc prime time line up has gone down hill since shows like friends and seinfeld went off the air, so they've been struggling since. where as fox still has a strong line up. maybe not the most dominant, but still better than what nbc has, to support conan.
2. fox wouldn't censor conan as much as nbc is doing now, so it would free him up to do all the original jokes he used to do on the Late Night Show, the show he hosted before the Tonight Show. From the few episodes i've seen of the new tonight show, it seems conan is censoring a lot of his jokes as he no longer uses the masturbating bear, orel-raymond, or triumph the insult dog anymore. I don't think that's because conan doesn't want to use them, but i think a lot of it has to do with what nbc is telling to do to censor his act more. where as fox, they're a hell of a lot more liberal than nbc, so chances are, they'll let conan run almost any type of joke he wants as long as it's tasteful. don't believe me? look at family guy. that show gets away with more stuff on prime time than most networks would allow, so that should tell you how much fox censors their shows. therefore, conan would be a much better fit there.
3. he already has a working relationship with fox. he's helped matt groening in the past write a few simpsons episodes, so he's already familiar with that network. therefore, if they're willing to offer him a job, then i think he should take it and walk away from nbc.
not before getting his penalty clause and suing nbc first though.
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