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   MrRichardposted 13 years ago

   I'm stumped on a question; should I devote myself to a blog or Hubpages?
   
   I already have a blog that receives about 25 visits per day, and my hubs as of today receive 10.
   
   Any opinions will be appreciated.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      blog or hubpages?
      
      Both

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         Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I'll agree.

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            kimberlyslyricsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            me too

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               Kangaroo_Jaseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I fourth the vote,the agreeance,  the amendment, the policy, the debate, the......wait.....did we form a quorum before deciding in this committee???? When was the pre-meeting, did I miss the meeting? DID I MISS OUT ON DONUTS ?????? ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHH

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      psycheskinnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      What are you goals?  Money, community, spreadng a message...?

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         MrRichardposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Excellent question. My main goal is to help out people with their computer problems. My second goal is to make a little revenue if possible.

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      Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I noticed that you have some contents on your hubs that appear to have been copied from your blog. HubPages requires original content, or you shouldn't expect any traffic from the search engines.

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         psycheskinnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Indeed, you blog page rank will take a hit too.

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            Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Care to elaborate?

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               psycheskinnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Google assigned lower page rank to duplicate materials--a certain proportion is fine but a blog that only has reprints will never rank all that well.

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                  Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  What exactly do you mean by "page rank" here?

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               MrRichardposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I believe psycheskinner is trying to say that when Google finds duplicate content on different websites, one of them will receive a "ding" on their chances of being in search results. My blog, being the smaller and newer of the two, will get dinged.

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                  psycheskinnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  That's right.  Duplicates are not penalised as such, but they are often (not always) treated by Google as essentially non-existent and so will not build page rank like unique content will.

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            thisisoliposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Not sure if thats particularly true, it takes a huge amount of copied content for google to nullify your Page Rank.

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               Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Oli, I sometimes wonder if we live on the same planet. On my planet PageRank algo uses only links, and nothing but links.

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         lrohnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Um, no. It is true that HubPages expects and requires original content, but that's an internal mandate. I don't know what you meant by the statement you made about traffic.
         
         In this particular case, I would bet that both the hub and the blog post will show up in Google. And since HubPages has more authority with Google, the hub will probably rank higher which most likely means more traffic. Eventually, one or the other will get dinged by Google for being duplicate content, but there's a good chance that the blog post gets dinged and not the hub.

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            Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I stand by my statement. I did a search on the duplicate text, and it was the blog that came up in the search engine, not the hub. Besides, the duplicate content filter may lead to the hub being penalized.

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               Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               WE, you keep misleading people...

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                  Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  How so?

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               lrohnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Feel free to stand by whatever you like. Just don't ask people to listen to it when it's wrong.
               
               And penalized by who? HubPages' duplicate content filter has nothing at all to do with Google, Yahoo, Bing or any other search engine.
               
               As for what site came up where, when I searched for the text without quotes, the blog came up #2 and the hub #3. When I searched with quotes, the hub came up first and the blog second.

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         Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Your original statement is false, and standing by it you continue to intentionally mislead.

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            Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            As you can see, I was talking about HubPages, i.e traffic to the hub - how is that statement false?

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               Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               The part talking about Hubpages requiring original content is half true, the rest is false. Lisa did explain things to you pretty comprehensively, I am not going to repeat it once again.

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      99deskposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I will go with HUBs. In case I compare it with Blogger (Blogs). . Hubs are are good as Blogger.

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   sunforgedposted 13 years ago

   perhaps a google search for "duplicate content myth" is in order
   
   penalties or more appropriately lack of indexing are created for single domains - ie - google doesnt want multiple occurrences of the same article (front page, archive page, tag page etc) to appear within the same search return.
   
   I often wonder if anybody actually uses google? - dupe content is uber common with aggregation sites, news articles, entertainment, gossip , press releases ... also many of the sites are very authoritative with high PageRank and high SERPS (results ranking in the search engine results).

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   thisisoliposted 13 years ago

   it has been stated on several occasions that sites with large amounts of duplicate content will be penalized, the penalty is usually most commonly noticed by the page rank dropping to N/A. (Had this happen to me personally, twice).
   
   Page rank is calculated by inbound and outbound links, however Google can also place penalties which de-index your site and/or nullify page rank.

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   Website Examinerposted 13 years ago

   Misha and Thisisoli, you both seem to be experts in this field, yet you can hardly both be right on this issue. It is pretty confusing for non-experts to find out who is right. If the issue could be settled here and now, that would be very helpful.

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   thisisoliposted 13 years ago

   Not really, we both agree that Pagerank is based on links.  I think the difference is that I have been penalized by Google and seen both a PR4 and a PR 6 domain of mine get ground in to the dust as a result.

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      Website Examinerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Well, then I understand it better. Still, I am surprised that these kinds of knowledge and experience are not commonly shared among experts in the field.

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      Bill Manningposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I have 3 sites that are the same topic. I got lazy and started to just copy each article to all three. After 6 months the other two that got the copies did not rank for hardly any phases at all anymore.
      
      Now I'm making all articles different and slowly they are bouncing back. So dup content is bad. However I don't know why thousands of news sites can all have the same content yet be fine.

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   Kudlitposted 13 years ago

   Getting back to the topic, Blog VS. Hub
   
   I find that Hubpages' Hubs get indexed quite fast and a little backlinking can easily rank the hub. If you choose to promote the same article using your own domain name, you might need to exert more effort to get it ranked.
   
   You really have to think hard about what you want to accomplish. If  you want to get ranked quickly, using hubpages might be a better option because the search engine spiders are spidering Hubpages all the time.
   
   The disadvantage is that you have less control over the lay-out of the page. If you're trying to funnel the traffic, you're better off using your own page because you'll have full control on how you lay out your page. Of course it'll probably take more effort to get that page ranked.

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   climberjamesposted 13 years ago

   I would say both, I would have thought your HubPages traffic will easily outdo your blog but you can use the blog for valuable backlinks - that is what I do anyway

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   Nelle Hoxieposted 13 years ago

   I often play the game of trying to get the same phrase to rank high in both hubpages and at least 2 or three blogs or websites. I write the blog, webstite content and hub on the same day. There is no duplicate content involved, and I really try to make them sound very different with varied writing styles.
   
   There is no pattern to whether the hub or blog ranks higher after 1 month. Usually the hub is indexed within minutes, the blogs within hours, and the website within a day or two.
   
   But from the second or third day it's anyone's guess as what the exact order of rankings will be or what will even be in the top 10. And those rankings change constantly.
   
   It's the same thing for older content. I've had new hubs outrank PR4 webpages and then have the standing reverse after a few months.
   
   After watching all this for 10 years, I just don't think that anything is that clear cut in the Google algo - and I think that is very much on purpose.
   
   Personally I stay away from duplicate content, because I have had a few terrible and painful experiences. But that's just my perspective and if I was braver, I might be able to prove it wrong.

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   Nelle Hoxieposted 13 years ago

   If you're serious about making money online, you need your own blogs, not Blogger blogs. There's no comparison about how they move in the SERPs. My own blogs beat a Blogger blog ever time out.
   
   I agree Hubs beat a Blogger blogs.

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    thisisoliposted 13 years ago

    I would write unique content on blogger and Hubpages, works for me.
    
    I don't like to compare Hubpages and Blogger because they are different platforms, which I use in different ways.
    
    I own my own domains, but to be honest I preffer writing for Hubpages, where other peoples content helps make yours stay fresh.
    
    On my own blogs for instance I tend to think of most articles having a year lifespan.  Some last longer, but most don't.  On Hubpages when a Hub hits the six month mark it always starts to do better, and it keeps on pulling in more and more traffic.

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    Twenty One Daysposted 13 years ago

    funny this query came up. i just put together a strategy for "connecting the dots". I took a Hubbers advice about RSS/Twitter  and wham-o, triple traffic. There are some interesting tools out there...

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       thisisoliposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I have just started using twitter, not so much for SEO, but in the vague hope of the Digg effect through Retweets.

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