Skeptic or Believer?

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   TruthDebaterposted 13 years ago

   Which is harder to be, a skeptic or a believer, why?

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      TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      A believer could say it's harder to have faith in something without evidence, also trust in other believers.
      
      A skeptic could say it's harder to be skeptical when a majority believes, or that it's easy to assume something without proof.

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         Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Wow. What a interesting discussion you got goin' on there.
         
         Wot am u?
         
         Troll?

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            TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Funny that one you claim as a troll asks more meaningful questions and comments than some of those with hubs.  Which do you think is easier or harder? Or are you just here to troll?

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               Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Wot am u?

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                  TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Exactly. Thanks

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      Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You would need to define the criteria on which we are to believe or be skeptical.
      
      For example, I believe the sun will come up tomorrow and am only infinitesimally inclined to be skeptical about it, if at all.
      
      On the other hand, I certainly wouldn't believe someone who said they saw a ghost and would be quite skeptical of their claim.
      
      

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         TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Skeptical in general. Take the opposite ends, the most extreme atheist and the most extreme religious.

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      pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      believing in scriptures is hardest thing to do ..especially in current times since there are so many physical proofs that contradict scriptures of various faith..believing in god is not such hard thing to do though..

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         skyfireposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Yeah, find the gaps of science and claim god exist in these gaps.

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         TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Pisean, any other reasons? Thank You.

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         Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         pisean282311 said  .. believing in scriptures is hardest thing to do ..
         
         jerami said   I think that they have been slightly altered but then private interpretation  knocks it outa the ball park.
         
         
         pisean282311 said   ...believing in god is not such hard thing to do though..
         
         
            I agree

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      skyfireposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      It's hard to be a skeptic and easy to be believer.

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         TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Thank You. Why do you think so?

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   Jeramiposted 13 years ago

   I would compare it to looking out the window on a dark night.
   
     For me it would take more faith to beleive that there is nothing out there in the night, than it would for me to beleive that there something out there.

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      TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks. Why?

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      getitriteposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      

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         Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Sorry about not responding sooner. 
            musccle relaxers and an ocasional pain pill causes irregular Power Naps.
         
           As a child looking out the window into the darkness and ya hear things moving in the night; Your imagionation may run wild?
         It might be a lion, bear, raccoon or a rabbit. It might be a burgler, or your big sister sneaking out her window but you know you heard something !  There are limitless posabilities as to what it might be.
         
            If there was nothing ??????    that is only one posability!
         
           Put them on the balance scales.
           Limitless posabilities on one side    outweigh    nothing
          
           I bet my money on something.

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            TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks. Um. You have a different way of explaining things.
            Limitless possibilities = a specific God?

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               Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Limitless posabilities = something must be true.
               
                  One of many probabilities being true is easier to beleive than NO possability.
               
                   I never said that My idea of who God is can not be the same God as anyone else preceives of who he is.  Even if my perseption is diffrent than theres.
               
                  Ten people may have a diffrent perseption of who you are!
               
                 And none of the ten will be 100% correct in their perseption of who you are.  Even if we rolled all of these perseptions into one, That too will be incorrect. 
               
                  Mankinds perseptions are inadequate to comprehend.

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                  Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  This is a very weak excuse for believing The Nonsense. It is a dishonest answer as well. Speaking of "probabilities" when you really mean "extremely unlikelies" is what causes all the fights. You think I won't notice you slipping in the word "probability" instead of "possibility"?
                  
                  Something Must Be True huh? And despite mankind's inadequate comprehension - you are comfortable that your comprehension skills are better than everyone else's?
                  
                  Basically what you are saying is - you cannot comprehend the idea that there is no god, therefore there must be a god. And amongst an infinite number of possible gods - you are happy to pick the one in The Nonsense.
                  
                  This is the easy answer. This is what holds us back as a species. This is what causes all the arguments and - because you have to have blind faith and then lie to yourself that it is "reason" or "logic" and you have "proof" or "evidence" - you must defend this at all costs. Which is why your religion causes so much conflict.
                  
                  You think you have made a reasonable argument here I assume. All you have done is fooled yourself. But - you ain't fooling me. Probabilities?
                  
                  If you want to talk "probabilities," - look at it like this:
                  
                  God/No god = 50/50 chance assuming you are prepared to disregard common sense and our obvious inability to know all conditions regarding this.
                  
                  So - there is a 50% "probability" that a god exists.
                  
                  There is an infinite number of "possible" gods.
                  
                  Therefore the "probability" of your god existing is infinity:one.
                  
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                  Probability god does not exist:
                  
                  2:1
                  
                  Probability that your god exists
                  
                  infinity:1
                  
                  Talk about bad odds.

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                     Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     My referencer was for someTHING   being out there is easier that there being noTHING  out there ...
                     
                       And then you read what ever you want to into what I actually said.
                     
                       Some people ( some Theists and Atheists)  do the same thing with the scriptures and this ads validity to their arguements??

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                        Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Yeah sure - someTHING. As opposed to noTHING.
                        
                        And you know what the someTHING is? LOLOLOLOLOL
                        
                        And you cannot admit you are just defending your someTHING wot u know wot it is - despite the fact that u ignored everyTHING i said. LOLOL
                        
                        Beleebing in someTHING is indeed the easiest thing to do. Coz u aint got to think.

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            getitriteposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            
            
            
            
            Please try to use better analogies in the future.
            I would not bet my money on your faulty reasoning, that you arrived at purely from conjecture.
            
            BTW, why can't that "something" you refer to be the universe?

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   getitriteposted 13 years ago

   It is, of course, harder to be a skeptic.
   
   Being a skeptic requires more courage and the ability to circumvent conditioning--conditioning that has been firmly established in our psyche.
   
   It requires one to have the balls to go against established norms, and have the courage to trust one's own reasoning.
   
   ANYONE can be a sheep.  It only requires conformity, and an inability to overcome the stranglehold of conditioning.

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      TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Solid points, I agree with most of them. Thank You.

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      exorterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      being a true sheep means you follow the word, you read, study, and thr word say's be a watchman, if you do these three things you may find things in the church thst is wrong. you must be your brothers keeper, step up and talk to them,  now you hhave problems in the church, no one wants to be told they are slipping away from the word

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   earnestshubposted 13 years ago

   How do you reckon the odds would be of the whole bible being written by the inspired word of the biblical god?
   
   The story so far ain't cuttin it!
   
   God made everything, the devil, good and evil, mankind and his son Jesus.
   So then he killed all of mankind, except one old bloke and some animals.
   He then became his own son and killed himself to atone for all the screw-ups mankind made on his instruction and to his plan.
   
   Yeh! ... Right!!!

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   logic,commonsenseposted 13 years ago

   Wake up sleepy Jean, oh what could it mean to a daydream believer and a homecoming queen!

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   TruthDebaterposted 13 years ago

   If a skeptic or believer both have faults, wouldn't the skeptic and believer in one be stronger for seeing from both perspectives?

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   Jeramiposted 13 years ago

   Just like chewing bubble gum...  Either ya do or ya don't

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      TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Why chew just one flavor when you can have them all?

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         Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         

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            TruthDebaterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Glad someone besides me thought it was funny. Thank You Cagsil.

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         Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         If you can have them both....   go for it

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