3-year-old alcoholic treated by hospital

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   Stacie Lposted 13 years ago

   LONDON — Hospital authorities say they have treated a 3-year-old child for alcoholism.
   
   Child had been given alcohol regularly, officials say
   
   http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42093182/ns … ?GT1=43001
   
   my grandparents would give us kids tastes of different liquors when we were younger...we never had drinks or became drunk. it is a cultural or social problem when children are given alcohol?

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      Home Girlposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      i am sure it was NOT DONE ON A REGULAR BASIS! If you give it every day anybody can get addicted  even your cat! Yes, children were given liquors on holidays, during sickness, wines were home made and healthy and not strong. I was given too  wine with hot tea and sugar to prevent cold. A little homemade wine into your tea cannot hurt. Now, I never even think about giving it to children, you never know where, how it is made, what preservatives are used, etc.

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      ahsn_foreclosureposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      hmmm... well, i think it's more cultural than social (personally). in europe families and people and more likely to drink at a younger age but i think 3 is waaaay too young! the parents should have had more common sense.

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   ediggityposted 13 years ago

   This reminds me of the chain smoking toddler.

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      Mikeydoesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thats a disease right?

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         ediggityposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Not sure, I just remember seeing a video of the kid. It's on YouTube.

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            Mikeydoesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I was talking about how it isn't a disease, it is an addiction. Comparing it to how they call it Alcoholism, just like they should call it smokism... Tell them it is a disease, everyone believes it...
            
            Once again let me be clear.
            
            Alcoholics are very addicted and it is very real.
            Cigarette smokers are very addicted and it is very real.
            
            Alcoholism is bull.. It is not a disease, it is a very serious addiction.

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   Mighty Momposted 13 years ago

   Why would you doubt that the child was given alcohol regularly? If the child's parents are alcoholics or addicts, or just plain old abusers, they could well exhibit such a colossal lack of judgment.
   
   Can giving children occasional sips of alcohol hurt them?
   Not immediately, and probably not at all. Many cultures include wine as a part of meals and children drink wine at a young age.
   
   On the other hand, alcohol is poison and does absolutely no good for a developing brain or body.

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      Mikeydoesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Very well said.
      
      There is no problem at all with giving the kids sips of alcohol(not sure I would though). The kid likes the buzz more than others, let the bloke enjoy it. It may or may not affect his brain, however at least we have a test subject. Guarantee the kid will grow up fine, unless he is just one of those kids.. Which Alcohol wouldn't have mattered either way.
      
      BTW Alcoholism is a joke, it isn't real. People are addictive by nature, they are addicted it is NOT a sickness.

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         Home Girlposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Alcoholism is NOT A JOKE. it IS a TERRIBLE DISEASE, that needs treatment - if you are an alcoholic you cannot control it! being addicted to sugar/chocolate/ watching X-rated movies etc. is a huge difference. I lived with an alcoholic a part of my life. Do not want anybody experience that. it's not pretty. You can control your drinking if you just normal healthy person. When you become an alcoholic - that's it, alcohol rules you and you can do NOTHING about it.

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            Mikeydoesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            You are assuming I don't know alcoholics, or haven't lived with one. It is not a disease, as much as people will tell you. If you are an alcohlic and CAN NOT control it, you surely you do need help.  It is not a disease, and certainly isn't a joke.
            
            Alcoholism is not real.. Being addicted is VERY real.

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               MOlmsteadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Alcoholism is a disease, my friend, affecting the reward system of the brain. In addicts and alcoholics, the reawd system, or reptile brain may produce less dopamine, and serotonin.  This leads to the frontal lobes being deprived of these chemicals leading to a feeling of depression, or boredom. http://hubpages.com/hub/Drug-Addiction- … erstanding

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               WhispersInTheWindposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Very well said. Having an addictive nature is very real. Unless treated carefully with lots of counselling, the addicted person will just replace one addiction with another.

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      dutchman1951posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      MightyMom never actualy stopped and though about alcholic parents doing that to a child....scarry thought, and probly does happen, not good

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   theseusposted 13 years ago

   I saw that video on YouTube.I even saw a toddler smoking. my goodness! How could the parents allow something like that. I couldn't care less if the older ones do that because they should know better, but a child? He does not know yet that it will endanger his mental faculties and health and he will suffer from it later on.Parents should be extra careful on what they do because children, more often than not, imitate what they see.

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   Mikeydoesposted 13 years ago

   I'm not going to post my hub, because I don't have one. But if I were to, it would be based on facts..
   
   http://www.addictioninfo.org/articles/4 … Page1.html
   
   I'm assuming you are going to go and tell me Alcoholics Anonymous is legit too right?

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      DaNoblestposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I will agree alcoholism is not a disease but an addiction. I have never heard of a well respected doctor in our society prescribing long term alcohol consumption for an alcohol deficiency in a persons body. Nor have I heard of someone being born with an alcohol deficiency.
      
      As for AA yes it is legit. It has helped many people gain their lives back from the addiction. While it may not be for everyone the community itself is very supportive of one another and becomes a second family for most.
      
      When they say you are powerless it is in reference to your addiction. People who are heavily addicted do feel powerless to control their substance abuse and are often unable to control it ,so yes in that sense they are powerless within their addiction. They never say you are powerless to control your addiction once you quit. In fact the group holds you accountable for your own actions and choices. This is why people join AA. If they could maintain the urges to use in a healthy manner on their own then they would not even have a problem to begin with.
      
      When they say you need to keep going to meetings they are basing that off of the large percentage of newly sober people who relapse if they stop going at first. Having a supportive community that holds them accountable for their actions is what most addicts need at first. Notice I said accountable for their actions. Yes in AA they do tell you that you are the one making the choice to stay clean. Many people that recently quit do need this support at first because they are totally rebuilding their lives.
      
      As for the saying take things one day at a time...that is all you can do at first when overcoming an addiction. It is like learning to live all over again.

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   khmohsinposted 13 years ago

   Its certainly not a good news for everyone.Even this had happen with a child.

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   Mikeydoesposted 13 years ago

   Many people are forced in to AA.. And one of AA's main steps is to turn your life over to God. Which is fine for some, as they do put their trust in God. And if that is what they choose and it is how they beat the addiction, great. HOWEVER, the fact is many people do not believe in God. And it is 100% fact that it is completely up to you to beat your addiction. It is you vs your mind. Also many people just go there to say they are working on it, to get their family off of their back.
   
   I am fine with AA, but it should not be mandatory for anyone, and def should not be court ordered. Which it isn't any more, gee I wonder why?
   
   Wikipedia..
   United States Court rulings
   United States courts have ruled that inmates, parolees, and probationers cannot be ordered to attend AA. Though AA itself was not deemed a religion, it was ruled that it contained enough religious components to make coerced attendance at AA meetings a violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment of the constitution.[74] In September 2007, United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit stated that a parole office can be sued for ordering a parolee to attend AA.[75][76]
   
   Once again AA does help people, but there are much more affective methods. AA rate of success is really not impressive at all.

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   Home Girlposted 13 years ago

   Not all diseases are deficiencies. Cancer is not a deficiency, Tuberculosis is not a deficiency. Addiction turns into disease when  a person actually NEEDS alcohol to function, it goes beyond cravings, it is life and death situation. Doctor is not going to prescribe you alcohol, but he can give you a shot of it to relieve your suffering temporarily if you are close to coma. It is a horrible disease and we have to understand it and treat is as a disease. The worst part is that it is for most people incurable disease. Some people can learn to control their cravings and hold on for many years, if you with the help of doctors "clean" your body from that monster. But you always have to beware that you can slip one time and start everything, all madness all over again. The worst part to see that happening to a person you care and be able to do nothing. It breaks your heart. At this stage alcoholic is not going to listen to you, all he thinks is where and when he can have it. Nothing else is important.There is a big gap between an alcoholic and a plain drinker. You have to understand that.

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