NFL Labor Dispute

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   StayPosposted 12 years ago

   Let's talk about the real issues behind the pending NFL lock out?  Is this whole thing really about anything other than corporate greed encroaching on sports?

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      StayPosposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Cagsil,
      
      You’re absolutely right!  However I would submit that it’s time for American business to consider some other factors rather than just bottom line profits in terms of what really constitutes success.  This is what I mean by corporate greed.  Thanks for your comment.

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         Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         There are other factors already taken in, with regards to success and the owners of each "business" understand what those factors are, while the players themselves are actually the greedy ones.
         
         The NFL is the league, where owners and their players compete. The NFL is about profit, bottomline. It worries more about it's profit, which not only comes from the owners and players, but from advertisers as well.
         
         The Owner of the teams, also worry about both. Not to mention, it does have to pay fees for being part of the league itself. It shells out too much money to the players, then it will run into problems.
         
         The players of each team, should find more ways, just like they have to increase their income and not get most of their income from the League or Owners of the team they play on.
         
         Players are paid too much money. Plain and simple. They have other avenues for generation of revenue than the owners or the NFL do.

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            StayPosposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Although I appreciate your passion and clearly stated position, I contend there are additional ways of looking at this issue.
            
            Your view is precisely the same as the big business multinational corporations.
            
            They argue that the majority of they’re problems are a result of the working class labor force they employ.
            
            I submit this could not be further from the truth for the following reasons:
            
            
            Just because the NFL is at the top of the food chain it doesn’t mean   that their motives and actions are valid. 
            
            All parties need to be held better accountable in terms of managing the revenues and profits they earn during and between their last agreements.
            
            Instead of these entities “ competing “ amongst each other they should focus their collective abilities toward building an irresistible product that will continue to bring in sustainable profits and expansion for decades to come.
            
            
            As opposed to these open-ended disputes (especially in today’s information accessible and overloaded society) there should more continuity of goodwill behind the scenes between the parties involved.  Anything else does little but confuse and alienate the community and fans that in the end pay the bills for everyone.
            
            I guess what I’m saying in a nutshell is somehow and in some way the NFL, and big business needs to take one step back in order to run two steps forward.
            
            The time has come for leadership to understand the wisdom and value of creating and maintaining their brands with the principle of compassionate capitalism. 
            
            To be clear, I understand and agree that the ultimate purpose of business is to make profits.  We just need to do it more intelligently in the 21st century.

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   Cagsilposted 12 years ago

   The NFL is a business.
   
   The TEAMS are a business.
   
   The Players are individual "businesses", in and of, themselves.
   
   So, who exactly are you talking about when it comes to "corporate" greed?

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   Ken R. Abellposted 12 years ago

   Greed is certainly a major factor, but I'd not limit it with the word "corporate". There's greed on all sides.
   
   There's more than enough money in the pie to provide plenty for everyone involved. The fact that adult human beings cannot figure out a way to slice up said pie in a mutually satisfactory manner boggles my mind.
   
   The NFL is a golden goose--if the negotiators cannot produce a workable deal, they ought to be ashamed of themselves.
   
   In a shaky economy with high unemployment, for millionaires to have lockouts & threaten work stoppages, reveals a level of disconnect with the real world that I find difficult to comprehend.
   
   Somebody ought to suspend the negotiators' contracts, lock them in a room, give them three bathroom breaks a day, send McDonald's Happy Meals in three times a day, and not let them out until a deal is signed, sealed, and delivered. Okay. So that's hyperbole, BUT. . . 

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      StayPosposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Well said Ken and spot on central point for this discussion! There is definitely a need to focus on other tangible benefits that come from the business wisdom of understanding profitability in context of historical gains.
      
      The National Football League and even in the news today they’re starting to talk in like manner about the NBA has lost it’s way.  It’s unbelievable that when they are making sky rocketing revenues and profits, coming up with a working relationship between owners and players is so difficult. 
      
      These franchises are as you say “ laying golden eggs ” if you will and from the surface it appears as if they are acting like it was the early formative years when they weren’t even sure they would survive.

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   optimus grimlockposted 12 years ago

   I think both sides need to look what happend to baseball and basketball when they went on strike. They both took major hits in popularity and it too basketball forever to get good ratings again and now there in another lockout.If they factor this in while both sides giving up a little they should be able to compramise. Also if they pay attention to fans they'd realize that they'll loose a few if they strike!

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      StayPosposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Optimus grimlock,
      
      I appreciate your perspective.  There is always two sides to a story and in this case there is actually three, if we include the fan or otherwise known as the customer!
      
      I certainly hope all of these sports businesses will begin  evaluating their bottom lines with a serious consideration for the long term effects as well as the short term bottom line.
      
      Thanks for chiming in :-)

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