dofollow, or nodofollow - does it even matter?

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   Wesman Todd Shawposted 12 years ago

   On the Info Barrel forum someone stated that Google gives a "hell to the no," regarding it's classification or purported prejudices concerning nodofollow vs dofollow. . . .folks are saying,
   
   "werd up, hommie, I know teh Googlz, and they don't give a flip"
   
   Pardon my vernacular - I'm a bit dim, sort of like the fat guy in Anthony Burgess' novel about the orange clock, or whatever. . . .
   
   Do you believe this stuff?  Verification?  Consternation? Contradiction?
   
   What do you think?

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      Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      There are two reasons you want backlinks.
      
      One is for Google.  Google's algorithm looks at the number of "do follow" links you have to your site - the more links, the better your ranking. 
      
      The other is for real people.  A reader will click on a link whether it's "do follow" or "no follow".  If you have a speciality subject, it can be very valuable to join a forum and post your related links there (either in your signature, or to respond o a question), because real people will see it and follow it.
      
      So both have their value.

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         Wesman Todd Shawposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I've been so busy producing hubs, info barrels, etc - and trying to learn how this whole game even works. . . .that joining forums is the one thing I keep hearing about that I've not done.
         
         I'm dying to get to over a 100K page views. . . I think I'm going to have to dive into this forum thing.

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            Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Some people say it's a waste of time, but I've always found it to be quite effective for attracting real people.

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               Travis_S_Musicposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I believe it would be very effective. My one and only problem is laziness. I have yet to really care to go searching for places to post my links, or to make more and more accounts to link my content. It's just a hassle for my being lazy. I try to excuse myself from it saying I'm just too busy...though I generally am not. I have a problem with keeping interested in works. I get distracted a lot. I'll get all into something, then get tired of it and go to something new, and the process continues. It's annoying really. I'm pushing myself to be more disciplined and to focus on things I really should be focusing on.

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                  Wesman Todd Shawposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Do this - download the AddThis extension for either chrome or firefox - it's got all sorts of site options for bookmarking/sharing/backlinking . . .that's the easiest tool I know of for the gig.
                  
                  Mr. Sunforged, however, is definitely THA MAN to listen to, not me.

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                     Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Yes, AddThis is handy for bookmarking and sharing, but that's not enough.
                     
                     Bookmarking sites are low value backlinks. Sharing is getting more important, but what you really want are contextual backlinks.

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                        Wesman Todd Shawposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        splain that to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                           Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           Oops, sorry.
                           
                           I'm not an expert either but here's my understanding.
                           
                           Google's algorithm uses several measures to judge whether to include your blog/website/Hub in search engine results, and how high to place it.  One big element is how many other sites link TO you.  But it's thought that Google doesn't just count the links - it looks at the quality of the links.
                           
                           Google would have to be pretty dumb not to realize that bookmarking sites (which were originally intended for people to recommend the best sites) are now dominated by writers promoting their own stuff.  Same with directories.  Therefore Google doesn't give those links as much value as links from proper websites, especially if those links are in the body of an article rather than just slapped on a "Links" page.
                           
                           That's why professional webmasters actually pay to be allowed to write articles on other people's blogs, would you believe.  And that's why sites like HubPages, Infobarrel, Excerptz, Xobba, Thisisfreelance etc are so valuable - because you can write articles which include links to your site AND get paid too.
                           
                           It's also the reason why ultimately, once you've hit on a good topic with good money-making potential, it makes more sense to start your own site - because then you can focus all your attention to writing articles in as many places as possible to promote one site.  It's a lot of work getting links to your Hubs because they're all individual and all have to be promoted separately.

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                              Wesman Todd Shawposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              I see!  So, if I'm reading this right - that priceless little bit of html that I never learned that, when used right can turn out like the following:
                              
                              Hey, lookit this here GUITAR!
                              
                              But you'll have to imagine that in the sentence above, the word "guitar" is one of those fancy blue hyperlinks that takes you to one of my guitar hubs.
                              
                              That's contextual linking?  . . .but also, that should be in, say, a guitar forum site - If I understand correctly.

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                                 Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 Yes it is, though I'm not sure where HTML comes into it? 
                                 
                                 And yes it would be in a guitar forum.  Or a guest post on a blog about guitars.  Or a comment on a blog about guitars (don't post the link in your comment, just look for those blogs where they ask you to fill in your name, email and website before you make your  comment - then your name will be a link to your guitar Hub.

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                              viryaboposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              Referring to your last paragraph Marisa, if one has several pages on one's website, does each page have to be backlinked?
                              Or is backlinking for the one site as an entity enough?

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                                 Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 Ideally you should get backlinks to a variety of pages on your site - but the difference between a website and HubPages is that visitors will come to your site, and because the entire site is about the same subject, they're more likely to browse around and read your other pages too.  Especially if you provide nice clear navigation.

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                                    viryaboposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                    Thanks Marisa. Been pondering on this. Now i know.

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      Horse Feathersposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I receive, mostly trash, from so called experts all the time about getting on the first page of Google in days. Some say they cheat and get away with it.
      I try most most strategies that shouldn't make Google mad.  If they work, it doesn't seem so. according to my success. I have been informed by a few customers they found me in Google or Yahoo.
      I link my stuff to my sites and like to add Hub to them.
      When I find the means to generate quality traffic I'll be happy!
      Great Hub! I'll be back to see what every one is saying.

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   sunforgedposted 12 years ago

   Marisa's point about real people is very valid.
   
   Many run around telling you to not bother with  "nofollow" links
   
   That is a mistake from both perspectives ( SEO / Natural Promotion)
   
   
   Without revealing too much, there is one very well known site that gives nofollow links - but they also at one time did well with QDF (freshness boost)
   
   By creating a small summary and a link about very competitive topics i was often able to generate hundreds of hits a day from one "nofollow" link, my first time breaking $100 in a day online involved using a nofollow traffic source.
   
   
   Did it provide long term link juice..no, was it worth the effort (30 seconds) hell yeah!
   
   nofollow or not, locations that get eyes are good.
   
   
   from a seo standpoint - a common and seemingly rational theory is that g can recognize unnatural link profiles. Naturally, people link all over the place when they share and reference articles, regular users dont pay any attention to (dofollow/nofollow) so if you pay undue attention and only generate intentional high PR dofollow links, your linking structure may be seen  as unnatural.
   
   Never tested that or anything...but seems logical.
   
   Does google pass page rank via nofollow links? index those links? all you need to know about nofollow -> http://www.google.com/support/webmaster … swer=96569   
   
   Do other search engines pay attention to nofollow tags - not really , some do, but none in the same way as Google.
   
   Have I made myself clear?
   
   Alex: As an unmuddied lake, Fred. As clear as an azure sky of deepest summer. You can rely on me, Fred.

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      Wesman Todd Shawposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      
      Dude, you're a knowledge tease!!
      
      er. . . .a "quick link" tease anyway.
      
      I wish I had your web knowledge. . . .in it's entirety.

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   I think OP was asking whether of not "no follow" stops backlinks for having an SEO benefit.
   
   In my experience do follow links are far more effective.  I am not sure whether no follow is just less effective or not at all.  I still use them to gain traffic and to link to resources without draining out too much of my own PR (such as on a page with 200 outgoing links).

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   Richieb799posted 12 years ago

   Yes Dofollow links are links that Google bots are programmed to recognize, some other links might not be picked up

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