Are the republicans incapable of learning?

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   mio cidposted 8 years ago

   Are the republicans incapable of learning?
   
   Once again as the elections approach the republican presidential candidates alienate  most voter groups. it looks they have learned nothing from 2008 and 2012 .

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   Ericdierkerposted 8 years ago

   What? Donald Trump is way ahead of Hillary in most voter groups. Where are you getting your facts? I am not committed yet but your assumption is way off base. Isn't Cruz ahead of Hillary in most voter groups save a few strong Clinton and women at all costs die hards. Correct me if I am wrong but do it with some facts.
   Make no mistake the republicans will win this presidential race. People want a change and Hillary is not one. And excuse me -- but who controls Congress since 2012? Does Hillary have over 30% in any group of voters except strict party line no brainers?
   I am not decided but I have decided that this election is wide open and nobody has alienated any group of import. Check it out, women, Hispanics and Muslims do not vote in a block. They are not a "group" they are free thinkers.

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      dashingscorpioposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      "Make no mistake the republicans will win this presidential race."
      I wouldn't count on that! If you look at the Electoral College map and take into account the war between the haves & have nots along with Bill Clinton's popularity in the South..

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      mio cidposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I have to correct you since there is no poll in the present time that show trump beating hillary in the presidential election.

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Percentage of likely voters in own party that support a candidate. And assuming the parties are near equally split. Perhaps it is an erroneous assumption. Polling stinks on the issue.

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      mio cidposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      percentage of likely voters in own party has nothing to do with general election..the head to head polls show hillary winning by double digits against trump

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   LoliHeyposted 8 years ago

   Incapable of learning what?  What should they have learned?  This is a most biased question!  Should they think just like you?  Sorry, but that is not how the world works.

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      mio cidposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      After the defeat in 2012 the GOP declared that the party should work on broadening the base and attract voters instead of rejecting them .that doesn't require them to abandon principles but just to not alienate entire sectors of the population.

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   Austinstarposted 8 years ago

   Yes, the Republicans do seem to be incapable of learning new things. They continually repeat the same old tired catch phrases and stubbornly use "FEAR" tactics to influence people.
   Abortion has been legal for decades now, yet they still refuse to let women choose how to reproduce or not reproduce. They still claim that "rape babies" are "miracles from God". How disgusting is that?
   Republicans still talk out of both sides of their mouth. They claim to support our military, yet constantly vote down any bill that will be beneficial to veterans.
   They stubbornly refuse to see Social Security as a way to safe guard OUR tax money as a social program that benefits those in NEED of those funds. Poverty, health care, and old age are just an annoying mosquito to the rich, white Republican party. They continually want to use OUR money to wage war on the (insert hatred focus of the week here).
   All the Republican want is power, money, and mental slaves to their agendas. Yep, they never learn.

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      mio cidposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      The sad thing is that two or more strong political parties are good for the country and good for democracy,this I believe even though I would never vote for a republican candidate due to the current state of the party

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   dashingscorpioposted 8 years ago

   
   
   I don't believe it has much to do with "learning" as it has to do with feeling it's unnecessary to change their ideology or party platform to attract more voters. Simply wait for the other party to mess up.
   Unless there is a major difference in party agendas there is no point in having two separate parties. One party has to offer an alternative.
   If Republicans switched from having a "pro-life" stance to "pro-choice", from deportation of illegal immigrants to amnesty with a path to citizenship, from cutting taxes on (everyone) to raising them on those earning over $250k, from independent choice of healthcare to government supplemental healthcare, from believing marriage is between a man and a woman to endorsing marriage equality, and so forth there would be no difference for voters to choose from!
   Whether one calls it being stubborn or refusing to change with the times I believe Republicans feel they'd rather lose holding onto their principles than to "sell out" in order to garner more voters.
   Unfortunately if {society} has moved further to "the left " it is unlikely Republicans will win a general election. The only exception would be if there was an economic meltdown or major homeland security issue in which a sitting Democrat president and their party were seen as being the blame by (the majority of citizens) whether they be liberal or conservative. People generally only want change during a crisis.

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      mio cidposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I think you make some valid points,but there is a difference between standing on principle and insulting  entire swaths of the electorate.

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      dashingscorpioposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Generally speaking if someone strongly opposes anything it will be considered to be insulting to those who are affected. Nevertheless my contention was it's not a "learning issue" but rather their unwillingness to move to "the left" on ideas.

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