The kidnapping of Haiti?

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   sannyasinmanposted 14 years ago

   The airport in the capital, Port-au-Prince, is now an American military base and relief flights have been re-routed to the Dominican Republic. All flights stopped for three hours for the arrival of Hillary Clinton. Critically injured Haitians waited unaided as 800 American residents in Haiti were fed, watered and evacuated. Six days passed before the US Air Force dropped bottled water to people suffering thirst and dehydration.
   
   Has the US now effectively invaded and occupied Haiti?
   
   http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=564

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      sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Well if your opinion is a shared one then we should pull out and never offer help to anyone ever again. We need to look after Americans first let the self-righteous world community(clowns in bikinis) fend for themselves! No more tax dollars for the ungrateful!

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         tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         HelP???
         For profit.
         c'mon sneak! You know !

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            sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            What our government does is not always a reflection of what we as a people believe. We believe we are there to help if thats not the case we need to get out.

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         sannyasinmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         This is not my opinion, it is a direct quote from the article linked to below. Did you read the article?
         
         Please do, it's worth a read. John Pilger is one of the few remaining "real" journalists in the world today who actually tries to report what he sees, and not what he is told to report. 
         
         http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=564

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      Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I am afraid that might be a case...

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      AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I am amazed that a thread like this was started, I had a thread asking why we gave money to HAITI and here is the recourse that you are writing about. Whenever our government gives money to assist there are always others who are ungrateful and complain. Where were the Haitians when the levys broke in Louisiana our own people were stranded, dead, starving, we certainly were not ungrateful when others came to our aide. I don't believe they have invaded or occupied Haiti they are only there to assist and figured that was one place that could set up shop where all people knew where they were.

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   tantrumposted 14 years ago

   USA is not going .
   Nor from Irak, Afgsnistan, Haiti, and everywhere.
   Too much profit.
   I know a lot of Americans know this is wrong. But what can they do about it  ?
   I'm talking  about USA as a whole.
   It's your country. It represents you.

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   Flightkeeperposted 14 years ago

   I thought that Pilger's account was silly and I don't consider him a journalist because of so many emotional overtones in that "report".

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   Greg Cremiaposted 14 years ago

   Can anyone tell me what there is in Haiti that we Americans want?

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      tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         
      
      
      The US controls Haiti’s sugar, bauxite and sisal. Among other things
      Go and Google!
      I'm not  your secretary.

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         Greg Cremiaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         According to google the only bauxite mine in Haiti closed in 1989. Sisal is used to make twine and dartboards and coffee is grown everywhere around the world. Their biggest export is actually human babies.
         
         We give them $260,000,000 a year in charity, buy their coffee, buy their sisal and adopt their babies.
         
         So you are saying the US is invading Haiti for it's twine and coffee?

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            tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Why don't you dig deeper?
            I'm not going to argue about USA policies.
            You should know better.

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               Greg Cremiaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I just asked a question.

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                  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  and I answered you ,even it wasn't directed to me.
                  Maybe itakins' has a better answer.
                  I hope so !

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            sannyasinmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            This is what John Pilger says about the US invasion and occupation of Haiti . .
            A direct quote from his article . .   
            
            "Oil was found in Haiti’s waters decades ago and the US has kept it in reserve until the Middle East begins to run dry. More urgently, an occupied Haiti has a strategic importance in Washington’s “rollback” plans for Latin America. The goal is the overthrow of the popular democracies in Venezuela, Bolivia and Ecuador, control of Venezuela’s abundant oil reserves and sabotage of the growing regional cooperation that has given millions their first taste of an economic and social justice long denied by US-sponsored regimes".
            
            If you take the time to read the full article it will answer more of your questions. You might not agree, but at least you will see a point of view that you will NEVER see in the mainstream media, whose "journalists" all report what they are told to report.
            
            http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=564

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               Greg Cremiaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               The only reference I have been able to find about oil in Haiti is from one article written 25 years ago by a french writer who had nothing to do with the oil industry. The john pilger article and all the other articles similar to this all reference the same outdated article.
               
               Why isn't the Dominican Republic tapping that oil if it is really there?
               
               Oil company execs do not make decisions to benefit someone else 25 years later. They make decisions to benefit themselves right now.
               
               If oil was there it would be coming out of the ground by now from Chinese oil wells and being loaded into Chinese oil tankers for the trip to China or the states.

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                  sannyasinmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Big Oil Behind the Haiti Quake? Article . . .
                  http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/h … __210.html

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      sannyasinmanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Oil and political control in the area, amongst other things. It's all explained in the article below:
      
      http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=564

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      itakinsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Slaves to run their sweatshops-also-oil-sugar etc etc.

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   MikeNVposted 14 years ago

   The United Nations, World Bank, and IMF operate exactly this way.  The Earthquake is a tragedy for the people of Haiti and an opportunity for the Private Bankers.
   
   "Giving" is the guise.  The United States has been pumping Haiti to the tune of $260 million per year.  So they are in effect taking control now and the Haiti people will have no say.  It's a take it or leave it.
   
   The United States is not taking Haiti on behalf of Hatians or the United States... they are taking it for the people behind the scenes at the United Nations.
   
   People don't realize that Obama is a very big player in the United Nations.  His position puts him at odds with his Presidency.  Plain and simple conflict of interests - you can not serve two masters.
   
   "President Obama will also make history by becoming the first U.S. president to chair a meeting of the council."
   
   The New World Order is in "Play".
   
   Because the Bankers own the Media this type of insight (In Linked Article) seldom if ever hits mainstream and when it does it's always demonized.
   
   This is a good article, thanks for the post.

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   mel22posted 14 years ago

   Why does America have to go in drop bottled water to Haitans in the first place with FEMA. I never saw Haitians coptering in water for Katrina victims. Maybe the Haitian ppl should get together and build their own foundation called HEMA! No, they don't .. They just sit there for Years waiting for americans to show them how to build emergency organizations..... The reason Americans go in and drop ANY bottled water is because its the right thing to do... but somebody will always blame Americans for not holding their hand....
   
   America should not have to show other nations ,ten years into the millenium how to be a civilized nation... it should be inherent... if its not ... to bad so sad! We try as much as they can 2 help! Someone will always whine!

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      tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      
      Typical

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      itakinsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      mel22
      With respect-,If you had any idea about the abject poverty to which the Haitian people are subjected,through no fault of their own,you might reconsider this remark.
      This poverty existed long before the earthquake-these people have been deprived of even the most basic human rights-a situation brought about by corrupt amoral people  i.e. their own government in cahoots with other politicians.
      The US doesn't bring civilisation anywhere-many countries from around the world -who are in a position to do so-help restore human rights when they have been 'stolen' from people.
      Some countries do this as an act of charity-helping ones neighbour! Others do it with the intention of ultimately gaining far more than they give-sadly this is how the US functions.
      Remember there are 43million homeless in the US-how come no one has rescued them?-well perhaps they have nothing to gain!!

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