9/11...what really happened...?

1. 66

   SparklingJewelposted 14 years ago

   how do I keep getting this stuff in my e-mails...?
   
   This is BIGGGGG  !
   
   http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases … 68402.html

   replyreport
2. 63

   TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years ago

   Very interesting. I'd like to see how this turns out. I always thought the Twin Towers going down looked an awful lot like those planned implosions you see when a trained group of professionals are bringing old buildings down.

   replyreport
   1. 86

      BeccaHubbardWoodsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I thought that as well, but never thought twice about it until lately. It's strange. Whatever, we'll probably never know and conspiracy will reign.

      replyreport
3. 80

   skyfireposted 14 years ago

   In reality, religion of peace strikes to one building,just like they're doing that to rest of the world.

   replyreport
4. 0

   lynnechandlerposted 14 years ago

   There is video on youtube that if you watch closely it appears as if the there are flashes of explosions just before the plane hits.
   
   It's sad but true that we will prob never really know.

   replyreport
5. 58

   Mark Knowlesposted 14 years ago

   Building 7 fell down all on its own huh?

   replyreport
   1. 63

      TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I don't think anyone is suggesting such a ridiculous thing...merely that perhaps it didn't fall for the "official reason."

      replyreport
      1. 58

         Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         And what was the official reason?

         replyreport
         1. 63

            TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Dude...If you don't already know the answer to that question, I suggest you attempt to catch a little more news.

            replyreport
            1. 58

               Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Sweetie pie - I am well aware that your government covered up anything to do with building 7 ASAP and any one who swallowed the "official" report of a mysterious fire must be pretty bloody stupid.
               
               But - you have never needed to question it have you.

               replyreport
               1. 0

                  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Building 7 was intentionally brought down! Whats the mystery?

                  replyreport
                  1. 58

                     Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     LOL
                     
                     That was not the original story sweetie pie. But still - why?

                     replyreport
               2. 63

                  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  A. Please don't call me "Sweetie-pie" and I won't call you "Dude" okay?
                  
                  B. As I said, I ALWAYS thought the Twin Towers falling looked pretty suspicious, and I generally take whatever the gov't has to say about anything with a grain of salt because I'm pretty sure that whatever they're doing, their motivation is not necessarily my (or anyone else's) best interests...so, I'm not sure what you're going for here?

                  replyreport
                  1. 58

                     Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     A - OK
                     
                     B - Just responding to your "dude"
                     
                     I agree - any one can see the twin towers was a controlled demolition. And no reason I can see for 7 to come down at all.
                     
                     Same thing happened in London. But - what can you do? There are enough trolls like Sab Oh casting doubt all over the place to confuse the issue ad infinitum.

                     replyreport
                     1. 63

                        TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        Goodness knows. I hear you. Sorry for the confusion
                        
                        ETA: What can we do indeed...I wish someone had a good answer to that for me. Other than attempt to expose the stuff, I don't know.

                        replyreport
6. 63

   TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years ago

   It's always sort of bothered me. So much of what's happened in America since 9/11 seems to have hinged upon what really happened at the Twin Towers.

   replyreport
7. 57

   Sab Ohposted 14 years ago

   Conspiracy Theories Explained
   PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENICS are prone to delusions, tales in which random events become deeply meaningful. Some believe in complex conspiracies; others think they are Jesus Christ.
   
   These stories sound crazy, but they may be the brain's efforts to make sense of its own internal messages, suggests S. Kapur, professor of psychiatry at the University of Toronto and vice president of research at the Canadian Centre for Addiction and Mental Health. In addition to other brain abnormalities, schizophrenics have too much dopamine. Just as addicts' desensitized dopamine systems make them feel that nothing matters, high levels of the neurotransmitter make schizophrenics believe that everything is significant.
   
   Because the addict's dopamine-driven salience system keeps telling her that something very important is happening, ordinary events appear intensely meaningful. That police car? That song on the radio? That man with a cigarette walking by? They must be part of a massive international conspiracy.
   
   Kapur calls it "biased inductive logic"-a top-down effort to explain the feeling that everything seems important. The cognitive parts of a schizophrenic's brain create the paranoid tale in an effort to explain the constant red alert blaring from the dopamine circuits, using any stimuli available. This is why delusions are culturally appropriate. African schizophrenics may fear they've fallen under the spell of a shaman, while Kapur's patients in Toronto think that the Mounties are after them.
   
   Kapur cautions that this theory is still speculative, but it could support a radical idea: treating schizophrenia with cognitive therapy. If drugs control the overactive dopamine system, patients may then gradually unlearn their delusions. -KM
   
   Kathleen McGowan. Psychology Today. New York: Nov/Dec 2004. Vol. 37, Iss. 6; p. 91 (1 page)
   
   
   See also:
   
   http://www.confusion.discover-your-mind … ranoia.htm
   
   http://www.world-mysteries.com/newgw/gw_rmd1.htm
   
   http://www.ovimagazine.com/art/2266

   replyreport
   1. 64

      Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      If I may point out, the pharmaceutical companies are still profiting from the event. If you want to talk conspiracy theories, not that I am pointing any fingers. I believe whoever did this did not know the towers would fall. The other option (that they knew they would fall and cost so many lives) is just too much for this woman's mind to accept or I would go completely off the deep end, becoming dependent on the new meds put out because of this event. Just saying.

      replyreport
   2. 63

      TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      So, in other words, you're suggesting that anyone who doesn't believe everything they're told by the media is suffering from schizophrenia? Figures.
      
      Are you in the mental health field? If you are, then you know that there is a difference between a delusion and what thousands of people have at least SOME evidence to suspect. No one is attempting to create some huge, ridiculous conspiracy theory here...but there ARE people who think that some of what the world has been told about that event just doesn't quite add up, and they want it investigated. It seems quite logical to me that anyone who really cares about the people who died there would want to know everything they possibly could about what happened.
      
      Well, guess what? I do not hear voices. I do not have hallucinations. I have not experienced delusions, or any of the other active or passive symptoms of schizophrenia (what's that you say...your little blurb didn't mention active or passive symptoms? Gee, I guess it's not as informed as you thought--at least it was intelligent enough to admit that it's "still speculative")...and I doubt that the people in charge of the 911truth organization have experienced those things either.

      replyreport
      1. 64

         Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         absolutely, backing you up spider, perhaps you got my note above?

         replyreport
         1. 63

            TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Yeah...saw it after I posted my long note about schizophrenia.
            
            LOTS of people are still benefiting financially from that event, actually.

            replyreport
            1. 64

               Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               On the explosions (just stuff from school no architect here) When there is an electrical arc due to metal touching ground bus, an explosion will result that actually vaporizes metal. We have seen videos in class. Photos of people whose heads fused with each other as they were trying to steel high voltage cable. one guys legs were nothing more than piles of ash. The wire they were trying to steal was aluminum. That was just two guys using bolt cutters. what more damage two planes full of fuel in an electrical environment? The lowest per pound payout at the scrap yard. People will do unbelievable things for money. Wherever there is electricity, there is possibility for explosions and meltdowns.

               replyreport
      2. 57

         Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Read the links.

         replyreport
         1. 64

            Faybe Bayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            You won't win with me sab, I agree to disagree. I think we were better off before they figured out that if they scared us so bad we'd need meds to get through the day, they could control us and get all of our money. Just asying. I have read so much, this paranoid stuff does nothing for me. raise up a child in the way they should go ? I do not depart from it. Just saying. two sides you know.

            replyreport
         2. 63

            TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I did. Now I know why you cut and pasted the one you did...it's the most intelligent and reliable of them all. None of them is actually relevant to this conversation--unless, of course, you consider it relevant to call anyone who doesn't think as you do mentally ill.
            
            Just to clarify: A delusion is NOT a delusion is if there is any evidence to suggest that the held belief might be true.
            
            Paranoia isn't paranoia if the thing one is frightened of is real/actually happening. I.E., it's not paranoia to believe your spouse is poisoning you if, in fact, they are.

            replyreport
            1. 57

               Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Wow.

               replyreport
               1. 63

                  TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  I don't know, but there is someone here who is well-versed in how to diagnose mental illness. Good enough for you? ETA: And who is legally qualified to do so, BTW.

                  replyreport
8. 68

   MikeNVposted 14 years ago

   One thing for certain Cheney and Bush are not going to come clean on whatever it is they know. There is no legitimate reason for the Government to not disclose whatever it is they know.
   
   The Towers were designed to withstand the direct impact of a Boeing 707 Jet (The Jetliners in service at the time).  These are not small aircraft.
   
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_707
   
   This is proven as the designers were interviewed.
   
   Doubtful we will ever know what really happened.  It's not conspiracy to ask for disclosure for the people.
   
   The attack on the IRS building in Austin was clearly not the same magnitude, but that building didn't collapse at all.
   
   Hmmm
   
   This is in fact interesting.
   
   Suggesting Engineers and Architects are PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENICS has no bearing on the discussion.
   
   When one accepts Government answers without full disclosure then perhaps they should be grouped with the mentally unstable.

   replyreport
9. 66

   SparklingJewelposted 14 years ago

   I certainly have never had the time to investigate all the information that has been put out about 9/11.
   
   But it is time for exposure of all who have created illusions and their nefarious purposes behind them. Bring it on...

   replyreport
10. 63

    TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years ago

    Heh. Took that last bit out, eh? Didn't know what kind of answer you might get back, did you?

    replyreport
11. 0

    A Texanposted 14 years ago

    Again, building 7 was intentionally brought down, whats the mystery? The N. and S. towers came down after their metal frames heated to the point of failure and the building collapsed onto itself just as any building would have.
    
    Test after test was done to prove that what was stated above was possible and the EXPERTS determined that it is!
    
    Any other theory is based on delusion and paranoia!

    replyreport
12. 69

    aguasilverposted 14 years ago

    I don't think the truth will ever be willingly revealed, because all effective crime scene evidence was destroyed, and the government will never reveal their findings independently.
    
    What surprises me is that Americans in particular and the world in general has accepted that a small group of terrorists (the politicians and New World Order) can hold the rest of the world to ransom and keep them ignorant of facts and we all accept that.
    
    Nobody(as far as I know)has even started a petition to sequester all the known evidence and instigate an independent judicial inquiry by an international court to expose the truth, and the liars behind the lies.
    
    We sleepwalk towards our destiny!

    replyreport
13. 60

    Hokeyposted 14 years ago

    It was Bolivian Pygmies from Arizona!!   I saw them!!!!
    
                                 

    replyreport
14. 0

    Twenty One Daysposted 14 years ago

    a lot of people died for no reason...
    
    i have seen GZ. There is no way two planes made all those building collapse.
    
    odd thing is: the Post Office and Verizon building were also hit by debris but never even trembled. Yet WTC 7 -a few blocks from WTC 1 & 2 suddenly collapsed some five hours after the attacks.
    
    only two buildings hit, but 7 fully collapsed (mostly by strange fires) and a few others severely damaged, later torn down.
    
    just sucks that it even happened.

    replyreport