The government wants you to have health insurance - but not too much.

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  1. nicomp profile image66
    nicompposted 9 years ago

    If you throw in with these people you are either blinded by emotion or simply deluded.

    There is no excuse for this.

    Note that the proposal is to *tax* existing GOOD health insurance plans, ostensibly to prevent people from using too much health care.

    How much is too much?

    Note that the private insurers will pay a 6 billion dollar tax which the "public option" will not have to pay. How is that competition? … dChannel=0

    "* An excise tax of 35 percent would be levied on insurance companies for health plans above $8,000 for singles and $21,000 for family plans. The tax would apply to self-insured and group-market plans, but not plans sold in the individual market. Threshold would be indexed for inflation.

    * Health insurance providers collectively would pay an annual fee of $6 billion starting in 2010. The fee would be allocated by companies' market share."

    By comparison, the most profitable health insurance company in 2007, UnitedHealth Group, earned 4.65 billion. … profit.pdf

    So, the plan is to confiscate (tax) enough of the private insurers to more than wipe out the most profitable company in the industry. How is that competition?

    See what happens when someone reads the bill?

  2. Aya Katz profile image81
    Aya Katzposted 9 years ago

    Nicomp, maybe they want everyone to have the same amount...  What seems to really bother them is for anyone to not have any...

    1. nicomp profile image66
      nicompposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      As long as they 'permit' a private option there's no way everyone can have the same amount. To penalize citizens for spending their own money on a quality health care plan for their family is unconscionable.

      I thought health care was a human right. A moral imperative. I had no idea some people might have too much insurance.

      When you tax something you get less of it. What's the legal limit for usury?

  3. Aya Katz profile image81
    Aya Katzposted 9 years ago

    Nicomp, it's not a human right. It's just a commodity, like everything else.

    1. nicomp profile image66
      nicompposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      What's not a human right?

  4. Misha profile image70
    Mishaposted 9 years ago

    Health care smile

  5. Aya Katz profile image81
    Aya Katzposted 9 years ago

    The right to enslave someone else.

    1. nicomp profile image66
      nicompposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Anybody who supports these politicians is not paying attention. It's not about health care anymore. I am embarrassed for my country.

  6. Aya Katz profile image81
    Aya Katzposted 9 years ago

    It never was never about health care. It's about moral ambiguity.

    Remember all thos hypotheticals meant to test how absolute your belief was in the proposition that stealing is wrong? "But what if your mother is dying, and you don't have the money to buy the medicine that could save her life? Would stealing be wrong then?"

    It was all preparation for this!

    1. nicomp profile image66
      nicompposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      It's about power, preserving and accumulating power at the federal level. Building a class of dependents that lean on the federal government for basic human dignity. It can't be about anything else when they sink to penalizing citizens for buying health insurance that's deemed too good. Tyranny.

      1. BJC profile image72
        BJCposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Great response and factual.


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