Thank God for Obama (Part 2)

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  1. theirishobserver. profile image60
    theirishobserver.posted 14 years ago

    This email just arrived from the White House - is it what you wanted?


    What Happens Next

     


    Good afternoon,

    Since the House of Representatives voted to pass health reform legislation on Sunday night, the legislative process and its political impact have been the focus of all the newspapers and cable TV pundits.

    Outside of DC, however, many Americans are trying to cut through the chatter and get to the substance of reform with a simple question: "What does health insurance reform actually mean for me?" To help, we've put together some of the key benefits from health insurance reform.

    Let's start with how health insurance reform will expand and strengthen coverage:

    This year, children with pre-existing conditions can no longer be denied health insurance coverage. Once the new health insurance exchanges begin in the coming years, pre-existing condition discrimination will become a thing of the past for everyone.
    This year, health care plans will allow young people to remain on their parents' insurance policy up until their 26th birthday.
    This year, insurance companies will be banned from dropping people from coverage when they get sick, and they will be banned from implementing lifetime caps on coverage. This year, restrictive annual limits on coverage will be banned for certain plans. Under health insurance reform, Americans will be ensured access to the care they need.
    This year, adults who are uninsured because of pre-existing conditions will have access to affordable insurance through a temporary subsidized high-risk pool.
    In the next fiscal year, the bill increases funding for community health centers, so they can treat nearly double the number of patients over the next five years.
    This year, we'll also establish an independent commission to advise on how best to build the health care workforce and increase the number of nurses, doctors and other professionals to meet our country's needs.  Going forward, we will provide $1.5 billion in funding to support the next generation of doctors, nurses and other primary care practitioners -- on top of a $500 million investment from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.
    Health insurance reform will also curb some of the worst insurance industry practices and strengthen consumer protections:

    This year, this bill creates a new, independent appeals process that ensures consumers in new private plans have access to an effective process to appeal decisions made by their insurer.
    This year, discrimination based on salary will be outlawed. New group health plans will be prohibited from establishing any eligibility rules for health care coverage that discriminate in favor of higher-wage employees.
    Beginning this fiscal year, this bill provides funding to states to help establish offices of health insurance consumer assistance in order to help individuals in the process of filing complaints or appeals against insurance companies.
    Starting January 1, 2011, insurers in the individual and small group market will be required to spend 80 percent of their premium dollars on medical services. Insurers in the large group market will be required to spend 85 percent of their premium dollars on medical services. Any insurers who don't meet those thresholds will be required to provide rebates to their policyholders.
    Starting in 2011, this bill helps states require insurance companies to submit justification for requested premium increases. Any company with excessive or unjustified premium increases may not be able to participate in the new health insurance exchanges.
    Reform immediately begins to lower health care costs for American families and small businesses:

    This year, small businesses that choose to offer coverage will begin to receive tax credits of up to 35 percent of premiums to help make employee coverage more affordable.
    This year, new private plans will be required to provide free preventive care: no co-payments and no deductibles for preventive services. And beginning January 1, 2011, Medicare will do the same.
    This year, this bill will provide help for early retirees by creating a temporary re-insurance program to help offset the costs of expensive premiums for employers and retirees age 55-64.
    This year, this bill starts to close the Medicare Part D 'donut hole' by providing a $250 rebate to Medicare beneficiaries who hit the gap in prescription drug coverage. And beginning in 2011, the bill institutes a 50% discount on prescription drugs in the 'donut hole.'
    Thank you,

    Nancy-Ann DeParle
    Director, White House Office of Health Reform

    1. Saber27 profile image60
      Saber27posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Nancy,

      No one could possibly be so ignorant.  The only thing left is evil. 

      In the words of the great Ted Kennedy "socialism has never worked in the history of mankind but I'm going to make it work".   Are you that egotistical?

      We have heard warning after warning from all those living under socialized medicine not to go there.  The horror stories are endless.  And yet, you support it.

      Let me give you some insight into what is going to happen.  And remember, you helped bring it about.  The first thing that will happen is the removal of the incentive for anyone to go into the medical profession.  There will be no benefit to out way the long hours needed to become a doctor.  So, we will have a shortage of doctors.  Next there will be massive inefficiencies and corruption that will soak up large quantities of money so you will need more tax revenue.  You will try to solve that problem by taking more money from the taxpayers.  This will occur until the voters get tired of having to pay more and more money and cut you off.  You will respond by limiting people’s access to health care.  Elective surgery will be one of the first things to go.  This would include pesky little things like hip replacements for old people.   There will be a 3-month wait to be able to see a doctor.  The average age of death will fall to meet the Europeans.  But, that's okay.  There just old people...they’re supposed to die.  Besides there aren't enough of them to create any kind of threat at the ballot box.

      The interesting thing is we do not have a problem with health care in this country.  Everyone has access now.  If you don't want to be wrong, eliminate Medicare and close the free clinics and you won’t need to face that issue any more.

      This will happen and when it does you have my permission to call me a prophet.  Or, you could say that history repeats itself all the time.  Those who do not know the past are doomed to repeat it.

      1. Sab Oh profile image56
        Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        There are more than enough older people to be the most serious threat at the ballot box, and they vote in greater numbers and more consistently than any other demographic.

  2. earnestshub profile image73
    earnestshubposted 14 years ago

    Congratulations America, you have come of (moral) age!
    The benefits will soon be obvious to all. We have had free health for 35 years or more.
    We all feel equal in health and it is wonderful.

    1. Sab Oh profile image56
      Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      What an offensive attitude, and what a childish motivation behind it.

  3. theirishobserver. profile image60
    theirishobserver.posted 14 years ago

    earnest - good morning to you and I hope you have a great day smile

    1. earnestshub profile image73
      earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Good morning to you! It is 8.30pm here in Melbourne. smile I hope your day is as good as mine has been! smile

  4. theirishobserver. profile image60
    theirishobserver.posted 14 years ago

    9.30am here in Ireland - so I guess your day is coming to an end as mine is starting - glad you had a good day smile

  5. Jewels profile image84
    Jewelsposted 14 years ago

    Thanks for posting that information.  I read this article this morning from the NY Times, the article I liked, the content disturbing. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/23/opinion/23herbert.htm about the disgusting response to the health care bill.

    It was a great day for America, eventually the disgruntled will come to see it too.  Maybe.

    1. Sab Oh profile image56
      Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      We'll see what we see in November.

      1. Jewels profile image84
        Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Will November stop the Republican hate games, tantrums and racist stupidity?

        1. Padrino profile image60
          Padrinoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Will November stop the hysterics from Democrats?

          1. Jewels profile image84
            Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Last I saw the Republican congressmen were having hissy fits at their workplace.  Hysterics from Democrats?

  6. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 14 years ago

    No, they are still disgruntled from the time of civil rights and the ERA and anything else that threatens their absolute total control and domination.
    They will never change. And especially as long as the operatives have sway on the air-waves.
    Do you know, it was Bush back in 2000 who made it possible for the conglomertion of radio? The Dems reversed it in 09...something to do with bandwidth... and of course deregulation began with Reagan and that has led to the corporate control of America.
    And DESPITE it all, the Dems are chugging along-trying to make change for people! Not corporations, who the right-wing SC made people, but ordinary, working, ignored, spat upon people of this great country.
    Not that Dems haven't played a part in this deranged behavior, but it was under the control of the last administration that it was a steel-grip, threats to your life if you went against Republican power.
    And wouldn't you know, the threats are back!
    Death threats people! Aimed at Democrats because they voted for the healthcare bill. You see-it's home-grown terrorism. Just like Nepalitano said....
    And it's nothing new. Operation Rescue has been at it for YEARS. Same tactics.
    These aren't people fighting for freedom, they are out and out terrorists who use violence to get their way. And for people who say it isn't white supremacy or kkk...google rahowa.
    So, what are we gonna do about it?
    All I can say is...AGAIN? REALLY? A G A I N ? ?
    God, man--history repeats, but this song and dance is getting OLD.
    Where is the new generation of decent, equality loving young people who are the leaders of today?
    We need you now...the old farts are stinking up the place!

    1. Sab Oh profile image56
      Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      "No, they are still disgruntled from the time of civil rights"

      "disgruntled"? You realize that more Republicans than democrats voted for the Civil Rights Act, right?



      "anything else that threatens their absolute total control and domination"

      Absolute control, like forcing everyone in the country to ...say, purchase something whether they want to or not? Something like that?



      "They will never change. And especially as long as the operatives have sway on the air-waves.
      Do you know, it was Bush back in 2000 who made it possible for the conglomertion of radio? The Dems reversed it in 09...something to do with bandwidth... and of course deregulation began with Reagan and that has led to the corporate control of America."


      You want the gangster-in-chief to take over the radio as well, don't you?



      "the Dems are chugging along-trying to make change for people! "

      Whether 'the people' like it or not! Because they are superior and know better than the ignorant masses.  roll

  7. theirishobserver. profile image60
    theirishobserver.posted 14 years ago

    Good morning everyone - 11 am here in Ireland smile

  8. Will Apse profile image91
    Will Apseposted 14 years ago

    I wonder if this bill is what Obama thought he would end up with? Given the rabid political climate in the US it certainly is an achievement.

    Of course it keeps the insurance companies which means the US will still pay twice as much per capita for what is an indifferent health sector when compared to other countries.

    1. Jewels profile image84
      Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Could the world ever rid itself of insurance companies?  Now that would be the raising of the planet to a heavenly state!

  9. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 14 years ago

    Yes, but it's hellabetter than what we had, and it's a foot in the door to REAL reform!
    THAT is what scares them so.
    They are acting out because it is the end of their eras.
    We are witnessing the death-throes of a rotten system that cannot be sustained.

    Rotten to the CORE.

  10. Arthur Fontes profile image65
    Arthur Fontesposted 14 years ago

    It is doing exactly what it was supposed to do.

    It continues along with same agenda.

    The web of control is almost complete.

    The keg has been set waiting for the spark.


    Problem=Reaction=Solution

  11. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 14 years ago

    Maybe...but there are a lot of forces involved...a lot.
    And don't forget, there is only ONE in the end.imo. And that force is the ultimate good. That is what I believe.
    But you are right, sometimes you wonder if it's all planned, because who in their right mind would threaten people for voting on a  bill? That is crazy.
    BUT--our history is FULL of this. Full of it. Threats and worse.

    Follow your intuition and pay attention to the spurious stuff....and PRAY for GOOD.

    What a wacky time we are living in!

  12. Arthur Fontes profile image65
    Arthur Fontesposted 14 years ago

    Control of the Banks.  Accomplished

    Control of Education.  Accomplished

    Control of Production.  Almost Accomplished

    Control of Healthcare  Almost Accomplished

    Control of the Media.  The attempt is underway.

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Control of HubPages forums next?

      To Arms! To Arms!

      1. Arthur Fontes profile image65
        Arthur Fontesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
      2. Jewels profile image84
        Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        lol

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      cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this




      http://i39.tinypic.com/14ahth3.jpg

    3. Sab Oh profile image56
      Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      "Control of the Banks.  Accomplished

      Control of Education.  Accomplished

      Control of Production.  Almost Accomplished

      Control of Healthcare  Almost Accomplished

      Control of the Media.  The attempt is underway."



      Unfortunately, you're right

  13. Ohma profile image61
    Ohmaposted 14 years ago

    First of all why would anyone expect the White House to say anything but positive about this bill? It is Obama's Baby.
    What is happening in The United States Government is the equivalent to the street gangs in N.Y. First you try to impose you will if that does not work then you try to buy loyalty and when that fails use violence.
    We have not gotten to the use violence yet but....?
    Obama and his groupies are political Thugs no more and no less.

  14. TMMason profile image61
    TMMasonposted 14 years ago

    I'm with you sab-

    We'll see in Nov. who is funny. I am pretty sure the dems and progressives have pissed on the silent majority one too many times.

    And I still don't see how breaking a window or telling a govt officail people are thinkin ill of him, constitutes anything near the violence the left has perpatrated for 5 decades already.

    Or have we forgot the weather underground, and, sds, all of which are a part of the left wing party today. Also I find it halairious that the left cries over windows and words when just last year their supporters maimed, and attacked, anyone who disagreed with them. lolol

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      SILENT MAJORITY?  You people are  neither in the majority nor silent.

      Is your keyboard on auto-pilot?

      1. livelonger profile image89
        livelongerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        They are the majority...in the Hubpages politics forums.

        1. Jewels profile image84
          Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Denial is amazing with Republicans.  I can't get over how strong that trait is. Do they not see themselves?

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            LegendaryHeroposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            It's not denial, its the ability to not realize defeat.

    2. Sab Oh profile image56
      Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Exactly. I'm sure that poor fella who was beaten by a gang of SEIU thugs outside a townhall meeting last year would have opted to be called a few names rather than to be thrown on the ground and worked over. How about the old man protesting this obamacare mess a few months back who had his finger bitten off by a rapid obama supporter? They've forgotten that one too. Planting baton-wielding thugs outside voting stations to intimidate voters at the outset of this national nightmare now seems among the more tame actions.

      And now look what's been happening to Eric Cantor.

  15. TMMason profile image61
    TMMasonposted 14 years ago

    You need to check your facts. America is a center right country. And we will shift back soon.

    1. Jewels profile image84
      Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Back to what?

  16. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 14 years ago

    I support this healthcare bill.
    And I saw the last adminstration as the thugs, not this one.

    um, who control the banks? The gvt? ahahahaha
    Who controls education? well-extreme right conservatives in Texas are re-writing history...Repacing Jefferson with Calvin....democrats? noooooo
    production, healthcare, medical...
    I would say the control of all of them is in corporate hands, and that is what the dems are fighting to contain.
    Here is a recent article from huffpo:

    "Janine R. WedelAuthor, "Shadow Elite"
    Posted: March 25, 2010 07:12 AM
    Shadow Elite: March to War - The Neocon Playbook, Straight from the Soviet Bloc"

    That is where I place blame..the neo-cons.
    Of course, it's been going on since the beginning of this country...lot of shady dealings and let us not forget the genocide our fore-people engaged in. Moral high-ground? Hardly.

    But, for now--I don't see Obama and the Democrats as the enemy. I see them as fighting the enemy. The long entrenched and angry enemy, who has lost power and will do anything to get it back.
    That is how I feel about it.
    But it is an information mine-field. That is why you must go with intuition.
    In my world, Republicans are the enemy of enemies.
    And until they start telling the truth and start holding their own accountable--they will remain so.

    1. Arthur Fontes profile image65
      Arthur Fontesposted 14 years agoin reply to this



      The last administration pushed the same agenda as this one.

      Bush started the bank takeover.

      Forget left/right.

      Power is being consolidated.

      1. TMMason profile image61
        TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        The bank takeovers were started in the mid 90s by the dems. They called that excersize in nationalism, Fanny mea and Freddy Mac.

        1. Arthur Fontes profile image65
          Arthur Fontesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I think it actually started in 1913.

    2. Sab Oh profile image56
      Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      "But, for now--I don't see Obama and the Democrats as the enemy. I see them as fighting the enemy. "

      Yes, of course you do  roll


      "In my world, Republicans are the enemy of enemies."

      Your world seems like a rather chaotic and unpleasant place. Maybe you should come spend some time in the real one.

  17. TMMason profile image61
    TMMasonposted 14 years ago

    I will take Capitalism over Socailism, anyday.

  18. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 14 years ago

    Capitalism, ok...Vulture Capitalism...Cut-Throat Capitalism...Capitalism over humane treatment?
    Uhuh...no way Jose. Not a chance Vance.
    We have been over-run by Robber Barons.
    Dems are putting the screws to them. They don't like it.
    Between the waaaa waaa waaaa's, we now have the do what I say or I'll kill you.

    Freedom? Choice? For the people?
    Then why haven't you ever once respected the election results?
    The people spoke and you said No You Don't.

    Umm, there are other people in this country. We had your way for 8 years. You lost. We have another way now. For 4 years. So far, it's been 2 years of a big baby tantrum. Think you guys can grow up any time soon?

    It would be nice. Just take a deep breathe and say to yourself: "ommmm, ommmm. This is America. We do not murder our political opponents. We do not kill people who don't agree.We have evolved out of the swamp. ommmmm"

    At least the Democrats have.

    1. Sab Oh profile image56
      Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      "Capitalism over humane treatment?"

      The two are not mutually exclusive.


      "Then why haven't you ever once respected the election results?"

      Who is this strange comment directed at?


      "Think you guys can grow up any time soon?"

      Does "grow up" mean agree with the likes of you?



      "Just take a deep breathe and say to yourself: "ommmm, ommmm. "

      I hate to break it to you, but you of all people do not come across as particularly 'tranquil.'


      " This is America. We do not murder our political opponents. We do not kill people who don't agree.We have evolved out of the swamp. ommmmm"

      At least the Democrats have."

      Really? I guess the guy who shot at Eric Cantor's office didn't get the memo.

  19. TMMason profile image61
    TMMasonposted 14 years ago

    Socailism, does not equate to humane policy.

    hahahaha tell that one to the Ashakarnic jews. Germany was oh so humane in it's treatment of them and others.

    1. livelonger profile image89
      livelongerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Would love to hear about the Ashakarnic Jews. Were they one of the lost tribes of Israel?

  20. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 14 years ago

    Wait Wait Wait!!!
    BOEHNER just said we can disagree without being disagreeable??? oh my god. If that isn't a complete escape from reality, or at the very least a complete memory loss...why then, I'm Santy Claus!

    Tell it to the Palestinians today. The Ashkenazis have their own house to clean as far as their treatment of others..1947 and counting.

  21. TMMason profile image61
    TMMasonposted 14 years ago

    Ashakarnic Jews spoke German, Sarpharnic Jews spoke spanish.

    Would you like a link Liv?

    They are a real part of Jewish history Liv.

    http://www.jewfaq.org/ashkseph.htm

    1. livelonger profile image89
      livelongerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Well, yes, as a Jew myself, I am familiar with the Ashkenazic and Sephardic Jews profiled in the link you provided.

      Had never heard of Ashakarnic or Sarpharnic Jews before, but now I get your drift.

      1. TMMason profile image61
        TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        okay. I am always willing to clearify Liv. Just ask.

  22. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 14 years ago

    Here's another you can try. Open-minds only.

    The Thirteenth Tribe
    By Arthur Koestler

    Odd, I thought it was the Gramm/Leach/Bliley bill that started all this hoopla.
    Did you agree with Red-Lining?
    Gvt had to step in there...those banks were practicing racism. Against the law.

    De-regulation is the boogey-man that started this. Or you can just call it what it is...GREED. Unfettered and uncontrolled.

    1. TMMason profile image61
      TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      if denying a loan because of inability to pay is racism... then I guess your right.

  23. Arthur Fontes profile image65
    Arthur Fontesposted 14 years ago

    “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said in Philadelphia.  “Because from what I understand, folks in Philly like a good brawl. I’ve seen Eagles fans.”


    Very Peaceful eh!!

    1. Sab Oh profile image56
      Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I have a hard time picturing obama mixing it up with anyone.


      Now his wife...

  24. Arthur Fontes profile image65
    Arthur Fontesposted 14 years ago

    Great song.... Funny.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-nr0PsU7wI

    Lollypop

  25. Arthur Fontes profile image65
    Arthur Fontesposted 14 years ago

    Another song just to give equal coverage..


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMZKNYaI … re=related

    I will follow him..

  26. Arthur Fontes profile image65
    Arthur Fontesposted 14 years ago

    One more

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65U0fyiu … re=related


    Grandma Got Run Over By Obama

  27. TMMason profile image61
    TMMasonposted 14 years ago

    Does anyone have talent anymore.... or is everything run by affirmative action.

    you cant sing... no worry. Just check the box and croon away. We'll make you a star anyways.

  28. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 14 years ago

    You Republicans are not only obstructionists, you are obfuscators.
    Does any of you ever answer a question? Are you above it all, or just *(&^%?

    Why can't there ever be a place where you can really say what you want?
    Behave Behave.....grrrrr.

    Red-Lining was the reason they enacted the CRA, which you silly-#$% pubbies blame for the financial melt-down.

    Gramm said we were all big cry-babies remember?
    What a doof.
    "So you lose your home, get over it."
    Meanwhile, he and his wife both collect a gvt. check. Nothing like biting the hand that feeds you....lobster at that.
    Nothing but the best for Gramm and Armey.
    It's the rest of the bums that can cry about losing their homes, right?
    Armey even SUED cause he wanted MORE gvt. money!!!
    This is the head of the Freedom Forum/Tea-Bag party/ Fox branch movement.
    Just like all the chicken hawks...do what I say, not as I do. what a bunch.

    1. Arthur Fontes profile image65
      Arthur Fontesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Uhm,  there is a tax cheat running the IRS.

      1. Padrino profile image60
        Padrinoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        In Obama's administration there is a tax cheat running most everything.

  29. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 14 years ago

    Did Rangel step down?
    Is Brazil-cheater man still there?

    That's what I thought.
    Oh yeah...republicans don't cheat, they "hike"!

    1. Padrino profile image60
      Padrinoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Rangel is a Democrat and I don't know what a Brazil cheater man is.

      1. Arthur Fontes profile image65
        Arthur Fontesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        I think she means Mark Sanford and I believe it was Argentina.

        1. Padrino profile image60
          Padrinoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure he is going to pay the price around election time.

          1. Sab Oh profile image56
            Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            He really should have had enough character to step down at that point.

  30. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 14 years ago

    I hope Obama's done being peaceful.
    Only thing thugs understand is thuggery.
    Only way to deal with psychopaths is with psychopathery.

    You my friends, are both.
    ...Your party representatives, that is.

    Lock and load, eh Sarah? wink wink....didn't mean anything... bats eyes....lil ole me? Why I wouldn't put lipstick on a pig..... Now git yer ass a movin and bow at my feet. KABOOOOOM

    1. Padrino profile image60
      Padrinoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      "Only way to deal with psychopaths is with psychopathery."


      I'll let this meltdown speak for itself!

    2. Sab Oh profile image56
      Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      "I hope Obama's done being peaceful.
      Only thing thugs understand is thuggery.
      Only way to deal with psychopaths is with psychopathery."


      Have you noticed that you are growing ever more hysterical? You're gonna blow a gasket if you're not careful.

  31. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 14 years ago

    yes...that one!
    COLUMBIA -- How did he think he could get away with it? To visit his lover in Argentina, South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford slipped his security detail, lied to his staff about his whereabouts and neglected to transfer executive power to the lieutenant governor in case of a state emergency.

    1. Arthur Fontes profile image65
      Arthur Fontesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You do remember oh what was that guys name?

      Oh yeah Bill Clinton

      LOL

      1. Padrino profile image60
        Padrinoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Or any one of the Kennedy's.

  32. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 14 years ago

    Why doesn't he step down though...since you are the party of righteousness?

    And I was right on the money about Palin. KABOOOM is absolutely fitting to describe her. Did you see this:

    "Sarah Palin published on her Facebook page a list of twenty Democrats who voted for health insurance reform and who are elected in districts that used to be Republican. Their locations on a map of the United States are marked by crosshairs - a symbol that clearly refers to target practice and violence.

    These targeted politicians have received death threats. Their offices and homes and the homes of their family members have been vandalized. They are beefing up security measures for themselves and those who are close to them. Sarah Palin might be to blame."

    She IS to blame. Just like O'Really? is to blame for spurring the hate against Tiller.
    Especially when she tells people to re-load? Not hard to get that meaning. Even a moonbat gets it.

    All the gun sales...the talk of revolution...taking back the country....
    Inciting violence is not a family value.
    But it is psychopathic behavior.
    The lunatics are running the GOP asylum, that's fer sure.
    Dangerous, and somebody better stop them before they kill. Blood-lust Sarah? So unattractive. But then you never were my type. Far too shrill and wound way too tight. Kind of like the tight-lipped old raisins in the GOP.
    Prune juice anyone?

  33. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 14 years ago

    I know. If ONE more Republican says What the American People Want...I will blow a gasket.

    1. Sab Oh profile image56
      Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Maybe if this congress and administration would respect what the American people want you wouldn't have to hear it said so often.

      1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
        Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        They just showed that they do.  But you people will whine anyway, it's what you do.

        1. Jewels profile image84
          Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          lovemychris, I think the Republicans should annex themselves off somewhere  and press the restart button. Call themselves the other America and then implode on themselves.  I'd like to watch that.

  34. theirishobserver. profile image60
    theirishobserver.posted 14 years ago

    Good morning everyone - how is America Today smile

  35. theirishobserver. profile image60
    theirishobserver.posted 14 years ago

    Thats the thing about all this debate it is so emotional smile

  36. theirishobserver. profile image60
    theirishobserver.posted 14 years ago

    Now that the dust has settled how will Obama Health Care plan work smile

  37. theirishobserver. profile image60
    theirishobserver.posted 14 years ago

    Well Obama seesm to be on a real high over health care reform smile

    1. Sab Oh profile image56
      Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      He's gotten a bump among democrats. That will not help in Nov. or 2012.

  38. theirishobserver. profile image60
    theirishobserver.posted 14 years ago

    sab Oh - I have learned a great deal from this thread - let the truth be spoken smile what ever that is smile

  39. Green Lotus profile image59
    Green Lotusposted 14 years ago

    I'm not about to join the thread except to say THANK YOU to irish for posting the basic components of the new Health Care Reform. There's been a lot of confusion amidst the dust of disagreement.  I'm just sorry it wasn't tougher on the insurance companies, but it's good to know for those us that are fairly well off and past our prime, "new private plans will be required to provide free preventive care: no co-payments and no deductibles for preventive services." It's a monumental move in the right direction. Thanks irish.

  40. theirishobserver. profile image60
    theirishobserver.posted 14 years ago

    Good Morning Sab Oh - indeed - the grey vote is the biggest vote in Europe right now and getting bigger smile

  41. theirishobserver. profile image60
    theirishobserver.posted 14 years ago

    Good bless Obama - Hail the President smile

 
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