silly question.. but important.. **

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   CkhoffmanKposted 14 years ago

   Is it allowed for me to use a hub as a free preview of some of my novels?
   
   like a 600 to a 1000 word preview?
   
   
   or what?
   
   I know that's a silly question, but I don't know how to find out if I can or not.
   
   Thanks

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      2uesdayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      If you are thinking of getting it published eventually I would look into this aspect of - if you publish it on the internet will the publisher still want it ?
      
      I am not sure if it would rule out the chances or not of you getting it published. It is just worth considering it when weighing up your optons.

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   Jeff Berndtposted 14 years ago

   Others have done it. I don't see why you couldn't.

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   Website Examinerposted 14 years ago

   I agree, there are no written or unwritten rules against it.

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   Hauntyposted 14 years ago

   lol Jeff, interesting stance.
   
   @CkhoffmanK - It is. Some even post full novels here like Edweirdo does.

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      CkhoffmanKposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Wow, thanks everyone for the prompt feedback.
      
      Was just thinking about giving some teasers along with what I already write.
      
      <3

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         psycheskinnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I would echoe 2uesday's point.  Personally I never post more than 500 words fo a pre-published novel and usually nothing at all.  Some publishers really are not keen on unedited excerpts being out there, especially on "content" sites..

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   Website Examinerposted 14 years ago

   A limited sample as that which has been suggested should not rule out getting it published elsewhere.

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   shazwellynposted 14 years ago

   Many use hubs to preview links to other hubs... so why not to stories... I think I might do the same soon! hehehe
   
   p.s. Hauty.. Im Ed's no 1 follower... ner ner ner ner nerrrrrrrrrr! Ask him! (hehehe - *wink*) http://hubpages.com/profile/edweirdo

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   CkhoffmanKposted 14 years ago

   Yah. Only a little bit of a sample at a time.
   
   It's to go with book#1 of my series (free download)
   
   http://www.lulu.com/ckhoffmanf
   
   
   Just wanting to spread the literary lovins

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   Website Examinerposted 14 years ago

   Posting links to Lulu on this forum is a different matter.
   
   http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/44491

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   katiem2posted 14 years ago

   I've done it.  I use it as a tool to determine interest.  Plus you can earn nice profits from the adsense given the work never get published other wise......
   
   Check out my example at my True Confessions Hub and best of luck.  I look forward to reading your work.
   
   
   
   Peace

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      Website Examinerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I disagree with pretty much everything being said here. Publishers generally do not want to read online, nor do they appreciate previously published content.

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         katiem2posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I'd love to hear advice from you as it appears you may have helpful insights regarding this topic.  Do tell, what is your advice to publishing success?
         
         Thanks in advance for your contribution!
         
         Peace

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            Website Examinerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I appreciate your approach, namely that you are willing to share your work with others, seek feedback, and give advice to others concerning your experiences.
            
            The background for what I am saying here is that I regularly work with literary consultants, whose primary job it is to make so-called “manuscript assessments” and to help authors avoid the many pitfalls that may prevent them from finding publication. I have been advised by these consultants that literary agents and publishers prefer traditional submissions – i.e. a synopsis, a cover letter, and a suitable sample (usually the first three chapters). If they want more, they will request it, in which event the submission becomes “solicited.”
            
            Hopefully, this answers at least parts of your question.

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               katiem2posted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Yes it does, I have dealt with Paramount for over nine years and the song lyrics angle of selling my work.  The book deal is different.   Thanks for the advice.

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                  Website Examinerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  I am glad to hear. Well, I will be looking forward to read some of your work - as long as it is available.

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                     katiem2posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Thanks and ditto... gonna be your fan in a few seconds.  Peace

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    CkhoffmanKposted 14 years ago

    I'm not trying to send in the story to a publisher. Just wanted to make that clear. The Fear Chronicles series are self-published and copyrighted.
    
    I am working on a novel titled, "Chloe", which is strictly for being sent to a publisher. It's a much different style though.
    
    
    Just wanting to share my writing. Not make a profit (that's why the download is free, even)
    
    Katie, thanks! I'm going to take a look. Part of my current novel is partially romance.. but mostly dramatic.

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       Website Examinerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Free has nothing to do with it, in my opinion. Lots of advertisements and self-promotional products are free.

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          katiem2posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          CkhoffmanK,  Your welcome, I feel this will answer your question.  Doing something is better than doing nothing.  As a writer I always feel better bringing projects to fruition, eases the clutter in the mind.   
          
          Writers Write...so write on girl.  I look forward to reading it.  I just became a fan.
          
          Much Love and Success,
          Katie

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          CkhoffmanKposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I'm sorry, but.. maybe I am going on the defensive cuz I'm new to HB, but is there a problem, Website Examiner?? Seems as though there is.

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             Website Examinerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             The problem is that HubPages Terms of Service (TOS) has some rules about posting self-promotional links on the forum. Such links may be reported, then removed, and oftentimes the person posting them will face a temporary forum ban. It happens all the time.

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                CkhoffmanKposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Seems like you take a bit too much of an interest in it, IMHO. But, that's just me. So sorry.
                
                It was pertinent to a question regarding the use of the hubs. I did promote my book. But to gain insight from other writers who use HB. New here, as I said before.
                
                
                Katiem2 - Thanks for the kind words. Keep in mind, I write horror lol! You may not like it. But if you do, great Im following you and posted a fan note. Im still figuring this site out.

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                   Rafiniposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   You will notice a lot of us here on HP are willing to go the extra distance and offer advice and assistance, especially when it comes to TOS violations that we think aren't intentional - we would rather see you learn to play the game than get banned for preventable misunderstandings.

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                      Website Examinerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      Rafini, thanks for that.

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                         Rafiniposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           np

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                            CkhoffmanKposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                            Yes. I got the point, and I think the wrong impressions were taken on my end and I apologize.
                            
                            However, does this mean that we can no longer discuss on this particular thread? Simple mistake made and I am aware. What now? (lol)
                            
                            Just assume the discussion is what it is? or?..

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                               Rafiniposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                               Discussion continues until nobody has anything more to say.
                               
                               btw - Welcome to HP!!

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                                  CkhoffmanKposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                  So what I am trying to figure out exactly is this:
                                  
                                  Am I forbidden from posting my fiction writing on hubs or the forums? or both?
                                  
                                  Apparently Im not allowed to on the forums, but what about the hubs, which is what this forum is about

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                                     Website Examinerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                     1) You are not supposed, as a general rule, to post your fiction or links to your fiction on the forum (poetry has its own forum);
                                     
                                     2) You can freely publish your fiction on your hubs, no restrictions there whatsoever;
                                     
                                     3) You can include links to your Lulu e-books (free or not free doesn't matter) in your fiction hubs - maximum 2 such links are allowed per hub;
                                     
                                     4) You can post links to your fiction hubs on the Extreme Hub Makeover forum - one of the only forums where such links are permitted. You can even ask people to please visit your hub, then from there download the ebook from Lulu and give you feedback as well;
                                     
                                     5) You can link to your fiction hubs in forum discussions, where this is directly relevant to the issue being discussed.
                                     
                                     Basically, those are the options.

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                                        CkhoffmanKposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                        well this one was directly relevant right? The other wasn't so I understand.
                                        
                                        
                                        at any rate, thanks for the welcome

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                                           Website Examinerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                           This is a discussion forum. I don't see how you posting the link above to Lulu contributes to the discussion, but that is only my opinion, and I am only expressing it because you asked. If someone reported the link you posted above, I believe that most likely the administrators would clip it.
                                           
                                           I look forward to reading your story.

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                Eric Calderwoodposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Website examiner, thanks for the TOS info on this question.  I was wondering about this since someone had previously suggested to me that I write a hub about my online novel (it is the first one I wrote so I consider it a practice novel and am working on a new one now for submission to publishers).
                Now I know not to do the hub adding a link to my own site would be against TOS.

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    CkhoffmanKposted 14 years ago

    lol. okay.

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