Have you ever noticed people with less money usually complain less than those w

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   chuckandus6posted 8 years ago

   Have you ever noticed  people with less money usually complain less than those with more?
   
   

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   gmwilliamsposted 8 years ago

   
   
   Jeez,  Nichol, what universe are you living in?  Do you have a poverty & scarcity mindset & consciousness? You must have a poverty consciousness to even compose such a question!  Really, c'mon now!  You MUST HATE money & wealth.  You are quite happy being po'....
   
   It is people w/less money who complain more.  They kvetch about how expensive things are, how are they going to pay the bills, put food on the table, & worrying about the increase of general cost of living.  They complain how they are getting less for what they pay.  They are the ones who are worried about rising mortgages or rents, wondering if they are going to become homeless or worse. 
   
   They worry if they are to be sick, how would they pay their insurance or if they don't have insurance, having to do without medical care.  They have to worry about the safety of their neighborhoods because they can't afford to live in better neighborhoods as such neighborhoods are beyond their socioeconomic reach.  They kvetch about their children receiving inferior education from inferior schools which reduces their children's future chances of attending better colleges.  They further complain about a possibility of being evicted from their apartments if rents increase-hence homelessness. 
   
   They are worried if they lose their jobs for they are 1/4 to 1/2 a paycheck away from homelessness.  They worry because they are slaves to their boss & other life circumstances.  They are in a precarious situation where they are owned by bosses, building managers, & others who are more socioeconomically powerful than they are.  They worry if situations turn to the worst, will they & their families be homeless on the streets.
   
   It is those w/LESS money who complain THE MOST.   Those w/MORE, EVEN THE MOST money are the ones who complain the least or not at all.  After all, those w/MORE & THE MOST money are owners of their lives.  As money is no object, they can live in the best neighborhoods, have the best health/medical care, can afford the best quality education for their children, leave a socioeconomic legacy to their children, don't have to worry about changing socioeconomic circumstances, are financially independent, & can travel anywhere in the world they darn well please........In essence, they have the life that those w/less money WISH THEY had.
   
   P.S. This question denotes envy.  It's toxic to be envious, it isn't becoming.

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      chuckandus6posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I wasn't comparing the poor I was compare middle class to those who are never satisfied with the size of the house never big enough there car isn't good enough, not envy I would not want to live my life like that.

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      gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      NOTHING'S WRONG W/WANTING MORE, Nichol.   Smart people want MORE.  You are QUITE A STRANGE BIRD, Nichol.  I have met people like you & I RUN AWAY FROM THEM-I like ambitious people who are cultivated & see nothing wrong w/attaining wealth.

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      chuckandus6posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Grace, that doesn't really bother me, that you have that opinion of me because judging by your presentation of yourself you have a lot of prejudices and selfishness and obsession with money, also very closed minded Your Opinion is The Only One.

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      gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      There is nothing wrong w/being wealthy & looking out for self.  You are the type of person who is happy w/being po'.   Nothing is wrong w/me at all.  In fact, people like me are the ones who will own the world while you will be impoverished &

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      chuckandus6posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yes if ruling the world is your goal than that's fine, I myself would like to make it a  better place and that is done with caring about others

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   WiccanSageposted 8 years ago

   No, to tell you the truth my experience has been quite the opposite.
   
   I grew up really impoverished where most people were on some type of public assistance. There were a lot of complaints.
   
   It's when I started working my way out of those neighborhoods that I learned complaining and whining about how unfair life is was not the norm. Oh, I still meet people who do it occasionally, regardless of their income. Some people love to wallow in misery. But it's not as common.

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      gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      @ Mac, this woman ISN'T living in reality. IT'S the PO' who complain THE MOST about money.The rich DON'T complain at all, they've the world at their oyster socioeconomically.She wants the rich to complain-SORRY TO BURST HER BUBBLE-AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!

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      WiccanSageposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      GM, I'm not an extremist thinker like you appear to be, where it's either/or. I'm joining in on a conversation; Nicole is entitled to her opinion as well, I'm not going to shoot her down for it and make assumptions about her for a different opinion.

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      chuckandus6posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you Mackenzie

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      WiccanSageposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I see ur point about 'keeping up with the Joneses' Nic. Not sure I hear a lot of complaints, they're too busy competing. I have experienced whining from a good portion of able-bodied poor peeps that stands out, I have not experienced with others.

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      gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Let Nichol stick to her struggling poverty/have NOT consciousness.   It's sad really.  She HATES wealth which is sad.  Wealth means a better, freer quality of life.  People like her I AVOID LIKE LEPROSY!!!!!

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      chuckandus6posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Ha Ha I don't hate wealth, if I had 50 billion dollars I would still shop clearance racks go to yard sales,not care about name brands and donate a lot to save lives,cure cancer, and other way more important causes over a 300 dollar outfit.

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      gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Shrieking of the poverty consciousness here.You can't save the world, Nichol.Look out for yourself & yours.Treat yourself to the best.It's apparent you see yourself as DRECK-sad.I VALUE MYSELF HIGHLY-IT AIN'T SELFISHINESS-IT'S SELF-RESPECT, GET S

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      chuckandus6posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      self-re·spect
      noun
      pride and confidence in oneself; a feeling that one is behaving with honor and dignity. I am very proud and confident N behave with honor and dignity, I have a lot of self respect and respect for others

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      gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Really?

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       gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       People w/self-respect want the best educationally & socioeconomically for themselves & their children.They want success & wealth.They treat themselves well!Others don't give a crap about you. I KNEW ALL OF THIS at 12 & you STILL DON'T

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       chuckandus6posted 8 years agoin reply to this

       I do want my children to succeed, which is going quite well, with 4 children with almost straight A averages in school, friends from every walk of life and caring and empathetic to others, Rich? I don't care if they are rich to pursue their dreams

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       WiccanSageposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       gm, the world is more complex than that. You touch on some good points but your extremism takes them too far. Having your mind set at the age of 12 & never changing it is not a virtue. If you avoid people like Nic, go on then and let us talk.

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       chuckandus6posted 8 years agoin reply to this

       I feel sad for you Grace ,because somewhere along the line, you must have been pushed away from caring about others, or at least outwardly And people do care about me, because I show them kindness and they give it in return.You have to trust.

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       gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       I do care for others, certain people.  I have seen people bend backwards for others only to be taken advantage of.  I have seen people being used by others who see others' kindness to use & drain them.   People are vultures, remember that.

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       chuckandus6posted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Not all people are, and I'm sorry that you have had bad experiences I've let a lot of people in and haven't come across to many bad ones.I give people a chance and if they mess it up then I'm done.

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       gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       @Mac & Nic, IT'S NONSENSE to keep up w/the Joneses. Live ONE'S BEST LIFE. Live good, inve$t for oneself/one descendants, & donate to charities, & live below one's means. To keep up w/the Joneses is pure stupidity. DON'T care what others h

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       chuckandus6posted 8 years agoin reply to this

       I'm glad to hear that I believe it's crazy keep in up and worrying about what other think, this is why I never cared about name brands, I love to dress in what makes me feel good and is comfortable, see Grace we can agree sometimes.lol

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       gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Like clothes w/sophisticated lines & natural fabrics in black, white, & neutral colors. Don't care about who designed them as long as they look good.  I shopped at Lord & Taylors on sales only. Refuse to pay full price, NOPE.....

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       chuckandus6posted 8 years agoin reply to this

       I too love black ,I had a black dress that I got once on sale and I loved it could never find another one like it, it's like finding the perfect jeans and then they get discontinued.I think that is great that you love a bargain too.

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       gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       At goodwill years ago when I retired, I found a black velvet maxi dress for $4.00- this dress is my fall standby......

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       chuckandus6posted 8 years agoin reply to this

       I love shopping at goodwill, I like a lot of styles that are dated that you can find any more and you never know what.you can find there.like a treasure hunt.also I love books and was looking for more Dean koontz novels .the other.day there.

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       WiccanSageposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       gm,I agree keeping up is nonsense. But people are vultures? Can't save the world? Others don't give a crap? That is the scarcity mindset in action. You talk a good game of abund. but scar/abund goes beyond wealth. Ur missing the bigger pic.

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       chuckandus6posted 8 years agoin reply to this

       I think there is a side to Grace  that we don't usually get to see, I have noticed it just now, people can say a lot when they have been hurt by people, and become guarded.But I see a caring person who I probably have a lot in common with.

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       WiccanSageposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Nic, I agree. I don't think gm is a bad person at all. She comes off harsh but it's passion. I think she's missing the point of some of her own lessons though and not even realizing it. She would benefit to not be so sure of herself and reexamine.

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       chuckandus6posted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Yes I agree but with every true passionate feeling we have about something or someone usually stems from experience that is either good or bad.It is hard to really know what's behind it.

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   tamarawilhiteposted 8 years ago

   To paraphrase an old Country Western singer, zero to $100/week is everything, everything about that is nothing.
   If you don't have enough money for the basics, struggling to put food on the table, provide heat in the winter, keep the utilities going, you will complain and life is hard. When you meet those needs and now have anything leftover, there is relief and gratitude.
   But it is a matter of expectations. When someone grows up in a secure middle/upper class home and the instincts are looking for the next problem, you get complaints about micro-aggressions hurting one's self esteem while ignoring the truly needy in the community lacking those essentials - or those in the developing world who still deal with forced marriages, honor killings, jailing of rape victims, FGM, denial of pay by higher ranking employers.

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      chuckandus6posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yes I agree if I have enough for essentials and have left over for weekend fun I'm happy and we try to help those in need because what the world needs is a lot more caring and less selfishness

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      gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      What about people helping themselves.   My hard earned money is MINE. People always have their hands out, let THEM HELP THEMSELVES or STARVE.....

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      chuckandus6posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Wow that is harsh, there a lot of good people that get in a rough spot, and it could happen to anyone. Sickness,layoffs,ext.Does this mean they should starve?

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      WiccanSageposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      What gm reveals, Nic, is the scarcity mindset gm is talking about but doesn't quite 'get': http://www.unwrapyourmind.com/release-y … -scarcity/
      
      Read under under  'Some signs of fear are:' you'll see what I mean.

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      chuckandus6posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Wow, I have never heard of that I am definable  not in that mindset.and I hope never will be.

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      WiccanSageposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      It's interesting concepts abundance/scarcity if you want to read up on it. I think we are all in abundance in some areas and scarcity in others. No one is perfect, we're all works in progress. I found it helped me, I like to keep myself in check.

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      chuckandus6posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yes it is interesting I am glad no one is perfect it would be such a dull world

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   dashingscorpioposted 8 years ago

   
   
   No, I haven't noticed that poor people are happier than rich people.
   People with no money usually live in high crime neighborhoods and they're always complaining about what is or isn't being done about it.
   There have always been those who have tried to sell poverty as being a "virtue" of some kind. No money = all problems!
   Anyone who doesn't know where their next meal is going to come from, just had their lights turned off, and there is an eviction note attached to the front door is most likely complaining about a lot of things! If you throw some kids into the mix it gets even worse.
   Naturally one who strives for great achievement has more stress in his or her life than one who chooses the lifestyle of a pigeon waiting for generous people to throw them some bread crumbs.
   Anyone can get "3 hots and a cot" in jail and have someone tell them how long they can stand in the sunshine.
   When you're the "driver" and not a "passenger" in your life making decisions sometimes can be challenging. Money just makes you more of who you already were. It's not a "curse" to be rich!

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      gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Dashing, that is the inverse logic of some around here.  They feel that po' people who are struggling are "so happy". They've the SCARCITY & POVERTY mentality. Don't try to reason w/them-YOU CAN'T......I WON'T BOTHER.....N-E-X-T....

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      chuckandus6posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Some people work very hard not everyone that is not well of are pigeons.Do you know many successful people went through some really rough times including Bill Gates.

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      dashingscorpioposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Nicol, I never said anyone who is not well off is a pigeon.
      What I'm saying is people who are "slackers" tend to have (less stress) in their lives than those (who are working hard) to achieve. I think "slackers" complain the least about money!

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      chuckandus6posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry dashing that might have sounded snappy,I would agree but I applaud those who work really hard and are not rich but are happy with what they have.

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      gmwilliamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Dashing is right as usual in his synopsis. Success level is equal to branding, education, & skillsets.  If one is uneducated & have no skill sets, h/she won't be successful no matter how hard h/she works. Education/skillsets usually equal suc

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      chuckandus6posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Grace I listen to other opinions and way harsher comments and take it from where those persons mind set is, without lashing out, every one has the the right of freedom of speech

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