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Suite 101: Alert! PLEASE READ!

  1. MPChris profile image78
    MPChrisposted 7 years ago

    Okay, I don't put these warnings out lightly. I honestly believe in the advertising sharing revenue model, so this has nothing to do with that.

    Rather, to promote one of my Hubs, I went to Suite 101, and wrote a nice, detailed article on the M1 Garand, complete with a nice picture. Their editorial process is far more in-depth, and my article got tied up because my sources were mostly wikipedia.

    The editor wanted desperately for me to change a few things here and there, and add in a 'source' paragraph. It seemed excessive for article writing policy, but sure enough, it was in their handbook.

    I relented, and decided to pull the article. Keep in mind, at this point, only three people have seen my article. Myself. My Father (who saw a print copy). The Editor.

    I went to Go Articles to publish it, figuring I could still get some use from it. They said I couldn't, and that it was too close to something on their list.

    I thought it had to do with the categories.

    Then I searched, and found this:

    http://goarticles.com/article/M1-with-t … s/4404887/

    My freakin' article. My First Serial Rights stolen from me from an editor-thief. No amount of education can undo the fact that she is a thief.

    So I've had enough. I will not post with Suite101 until this has been righted. Obviously they aren't taking their editor positions seriously enough!

    I call for a boycott and denouncement of Suite101, until this has been made right. No one should work for the relatively small amounts we do, and risk getting ripped off.

    I say we form an Online Content Writer's Guild, or something there-in equivalent. If you think I'm whining too much, just think if it was you, this cool new article that had your research, your opinion, and your deductions. You try to publish it but cant. Only to find that the right the 'first release' of your content has been taken away!

    1. HattieMattieMae profile image60
      HattieMattieMaeposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Oh wow that is amazing and disasterous. That is just B.S. Yeah that is why it's hard to decide whether to post stuff, because we never know if someone will plagerize or steal our stuff.  Thanks for the warning!

    2. MPChris profile image78
      MPChrisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      And for those of you in the know, the right to First Serial Release, is a big thing. My FSL has been taken away permanently by this thief. Sure, it may have been a tiny article for marketing purposes, but it could also have been a preface to my book.

      It could have been my cherished short story.

      It could have been my poetry or my art.

      If anyone out there, has some legal training. Please give me some idea as to recourse, as well as forming this 'OCWG'.  There needs to be a lobby for all writers who work online. We expose ourselves to unneccessary risk by not uniting, and we are already in a very risky environment.

    3. Uninvited Writer profile image84
      Uninvited Writerposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I don't believe Suite101 stole it, someone else probably did and copied it while it was up.

      1. EmpressFelicity profile image72
        EmpressFelicityposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        But how could they have done that, if only three people (the OP, the OP's dad and the Suite 101 editor) had seen the article?

        1. Uninvited Writer profile image84
          Uninvited Writerposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Articles get published right away, before the editor even looks at them. If it's not the first article. The OP said he pulled the article to fix it.

          1. EmpressFelicity profile image72
            EmpressFelicityposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Oh right, got you.

  2. thranax profile image53
    thranaxposted 7 years ago

    Why not write a PR about your experiences with the company, proving what happened. Promote that through your facebook, twitter, digg it, add it to stumbleupon the works. Also maybe the BBB report. The more truth it holds, and because its something that offends most "artists and writers" im sure something will happen. You will get an apology from the site, that editor might be removed, etc etc.

    You got the writing skills, she dont wink

    Because their is a very slim chance of proving you wrote it first (only your father as a witness) and because it has no real value (it wasnt commissioned, for sale, paid for etc) suing the editor wont amount to nothing.

    ~thranax~

    1. MPChris profile image78
      MPChrisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      The article had value. Thats like saying that a 9000 word short story, which I wrote an intended for sale, which I paid postage to send to a short story magazine, but doesn't get accepted. Then...ends up published in another under someone else's name...

      It does count for something. There should be a minimum amount of fiduciary responsibility for any act of plagiarism, to deter even these low level happenings.

  3. HattieMattieMae profile image60
    HattieMattieMaeposted 7 years ago

    Well think he was just trying to prevent others from getting there work stolen. But very good suggestions Thranax very much so!

    1. MPChris profile image78
      MPChrisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I might start a media campaign against suite 101. It still has me bristled.

  4. ggenda profile image59
    ggendaposted 7 years ago

    Wow, I am so sorry to hear that happened to you! Thank you for posting the warning. I just joined HubPages less than a month ago, but Suite 101 was one of the other sites I was considering writing for.

    I hope that gets resolved!

    1. MPChris profile image78
      MPChrisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Their department for flags and issues returned an automated reply stating they no longer accept email at that address. The only other editor I have told me 'check my submission guidelines', and that would resolve the entire issue for me.

      No amount of non-compliance with their submission guidelines should dictate that my work be stolen. This article is still up, earning some other person valuable page rank or clicks, yet the core of my article is gone.

      I will be starting a campaign against Suite 101.

  5. HattieMattieMae profile image60
    HattieMattieMaeposted 7 years ago

    Understandable!

  6. sunforged profile image75
    sunforgedposted 7 years ago

    I would call them smile

    People and site admins often think they can hide from real word repercussions. Content thieves get 3am phone calls - when I track them down.

    ads@suite101.com  is the advertising email, its the one that is most likely to get a quick response.. send a nice email about how you want to make a large media buy but need to speak with a human.

    or:

    Start at the top:

    Berger, Peter
          dns@suite101.com
          350-1122 Mainland St.
          Vancouver, BC V6B 5L1
          CA
          Phone: 604-682-1402
          Fax: 604-682-3277

    1. sunforged profile image75
      sunforgedposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      thats peters cell phone number.. I just checked smile

      1. lakeerieartists profile image77
        lakeerieartistsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I completely agree with Sunforged.  Love to hear the result.

  7. IzzyM profile image89
    IzzyMposted 7 years ago

    This is shocking! I have no idea what I would do in your position.
    Contacting the management might resolve the issue as they will have staff emails etc to say who sent what when, I imagine, unless editors use private emails?
    The site must have a record of your original submission. If they want to keep their integrity they are going to have to get shot of thieving editors. How many others has she done this to?

  8. profile image0
    ryankettposted 7 years ago

    When you call him, show him this thread.

    I for one could get this info out to a few thousand active online writers within an hour.

    Maybe he will decide that a change of editors is preferred to substantial bad publicity.

    Especially if you were to start writing articles with 'Suite 101 scam' etc.

    Although the threat of legal action will probably be sufficient.

  9. Daniel Carter profile image76
    Daniel Carterposted 7 years ago

    Any proof you have that will document your work prior to her theft is important. Any draft files on your hard drive with an earlier date stamp will help.

    I agree, calling is the way to go.

    And I think social media has immense potential power in righting wrongs. Look at Egypt. Any place you can write a review about your experience with the site, the editor, etc., will also be an alarm the people will want to hear. No one wants to be scammed.

  10. EmpressFelicity profile image72
    EmpressFelicityposted 7 years ago

    Definitely phone them, at an unsociable time.

    Now's the time also to set up your own site - I think the domain www. suite101isascam.com is available lol

    1. sunforged profile image75
      sunforgedposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      no.

      That would be an appropriate action if the thiefs number was available, but the buyterracottawarriors website that the stolen article is pointed to (registrant phinenumber = +86.862584798136) is not even necessarily the editors site as the editor may simply have some sort of backlink service on the side.

      I this situation, the OP has yet to make contact with suite101 to register his grievance in a legitimate matter. I was just giving the quickest means to get that started.

      3am phone calls are for the scum with websites featuring hundreds of scraped articles who would simply ignore an email and dont have any advertising that would react to a DMCA.

      1. EmpressFelicity profile image72
        EmpressFelicityposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        OK, fair comment!

  11. sunforged profile image75
    sunforgedposted 7 years ago

    I doubt this is necessary, but should you call the owner, of course he will have no knowledge of the action and will not immediately assume you are telling the truth. Stay calm so you dont come off as a crackpot.

    The only resolution you can really expect is a promise that the editor will be removed. Which is hardly something you can confirm.

    Spending time on a smear campaign is not profitable for yourself, using up to much productive time on revenge type activities, is akin to losing twice in my book. The actions of one editor hardly exemplifies an entire organization.

 
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