Recently having seen the brutal fight one has to go through to get SS or SSD, Medicaid or Medicare I was in shock. The mere fact you have to deal with SSI, Office of Disability Determination, SS, and the enormous lack of knowledge and literal defiance between them was a wake up call. Then those that NEED medical help turned away because their spouse makes $54 a month to much or can't get Medicare for two yrs after being found disabled. Do you think we should have to hire a lawyer to get benefits you paid for? Is it the abuse of the system or the system and the many agencies running it?
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What amazes me is they spend hundreds of millions of dollars for you to go see their doctors and then when they find your disabled send it to another doctor in an office to overturn their paid doctors decision. So why bother other than costing us $$
You hear vague claims about 'riddled with fraud,' and so on. But is there actual analysis of this? It's pretty hard to see how a system can simultaneously be too restrictive of real claims, yet too permissive of bogus ones.
Fraud happens all the time. Ask anyone how to get on disability the first time and I assure you "mental health issue" will come up. Once a month that's all it takes and the Dept of Determination will never rebut it because of repercussions.
One medical professional I worked for while I was in college double billed on SSI examinations and was double paid for about 6 years before discovered and her license suspended.
In my county, few unemployed can win a case for disability, tho.
I wouldn't go to a lawyer, your benefits are small enough. 2 years denial is the norm but other got in within 8 months - others after 8 years. But once get it, it benefits start all the way from the the day you applied. Don't delay in applying!
I would have to diagree with the "sliding" on over comment. They may try, but a quick glance through the reponses here clearly show getting SSI is anything but easy, especially for mental problems: 8 monrhs after getting the mind of a 6-year old!!
It is a catastrophe. They didn't pay a doctor of mine for any reports for 7 mths so I couldn't get mine. Then if I had a surgery I could possibly go back to work but they would rather pay me $30,000 for 2 yrs than give me Medicare now when I need it.
There are abuses in the system. When my mother was dying of ALS, I got an EOB for two feeding pumps. She did not use feeding pumps. Some individuals abuse the system. A lot of the abuse is by the actual vendors--most are good, but some are not.
Marcy, you make a good point an bring up another one, adaquate funding. As pressure mounts for even more spending cuts, especially if they are weighted toward those that help Americans as Conservatives seem to want, then guess what goes up? Abuse!
SSDI is NOT SSI - every wage hour you worked - you paid into it - it is your right - and is not based on lack of $$ like SSI. SSDI is not Welfare - it is insurance, like fire, auto, home, flood and your comment is insulting.
SSI disability does come from social security. Those people collecting it that havent paid in to it are ripping off the system. I did not say it was welfare I said SSID and Welfare have been used by people who do not need it. Read and understand!
Fact , when someone applies for SSI they are automatically looked at to see if they can receive Social Security. Like myself I have worked my butt off my entire life and therefore was eligible for to much money from SS to receive SSI Insulting? no
So, Cheryl, you believe 1) because a few people abuse the system, you make it extremely difficult for those who need it to get it, 2) you can get SSI even though you haven't worked; false, my partner had to prove enough work to qualify her daughter
Now wait one flipping minute you are taking what I said completely out of text. 1) who said that you didnt deserve benefits that is no where in my post. I said those who are faking and abusing the system do not deserve benefits. Seriously people
Read what I said Cheryl, I didn't say you wanted to deny benefits, I said it appears you want to "make it "extremely difficult" for those who need it to get it." See your 5th sentence beginning, "That is why all the hoops, ...".
I did not say I wanted it to be hard I said that is why there are so many hoops to go through again not understanding what I meant. Read my hub on misconveyed words. Seriously you are misinterpreting what I said completely.
I understand Cheryl. My son received SSI benefits for a short time, because they are based on financial need. He later was changed to SSDI because he is legally blind and has numerous other problems.
I am applied for SSDI and was denied.
Then I apologize Cheryl. The reason for the misconception is the preamble to the sentence, which, while all true, is a small minority of cases; a fact left out by those who want to do away with or limit federal assistance to those who need it.
In the letter they sent me the attorney can get up to 25% of back payments. But that is my point should (and believe me you need one) we have to pay attorneys to get the benefits we've already paid for. That's just absurd
We really did not pay for disability benefits. We paid for retirement benefits. Disability benefits was added to the SS program. People who need them should get them, but there are those that always try to scam the system, causing problems for all.
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I could not even get a doctors report because the SOCIAL SECURITY had not paid their bill since January for anybody not just me (this is Aug). They are already not paying their bills and we are the ones suffering.
Having been turned down for benefits, I know it is not a cake walk. I am appealing. If I get a job, I will drop the appeal. There are people with problems worse than mind who are not being helped.
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