Doctors are considering bailing out.

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  1. JSChams profile image59
    JSChamsposted 6 years ago

    Here's the story:

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/09/repor … obamacare/

    How many do you actually think will retire/quit when or if this law is fully implemented?

    1. Josak profile image61
      Josakposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Some will because doctor's wages will be cut as they should be since they are the highest in the world. But job satisfaction is statistically higher in countries with public systems.

      1. Vladimir Uhri profile image61
        Vladimir Uhriposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Hm, Doctors are paid high? They are working and bring health to people. What politicians do?  Destroying everything and how dearly they are paid? And what about CEO's?  Yes in socialism there will be great Dr's shortage. In socialism they were paid less then 2$ a day, half as line workers. It will reflect on quality too.

        1. John Holden profile image61
          John Holdenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Only one thing to say to that load of misinformation - Cuba.

          1. Vladimir Uhri profile image61
            Vladimir Uhriposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            John Holden, yea.

        2. Josak profile image61
          Josakposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          The US has the most expensive healthcare in the world and the 37th best, do you see an issue there?

          1. habee profile image93
            habeeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I see a problem there, but I don't think it can all be blamed on doctors. Some can be blamed on the high price of malpractice insurance, bureaucracy, and hospitals. Have you ever looked at an itemized hospital bill??

            1. Josak profile image61
              Josakposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              That's true but we also have the highest paid doctors in the world so it is part of the problem.

    2. rebekahELLE profile image87
      rebekahELLEposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Have you ever talked with hospital employees? Doctors are notorious for scheduling procedures that aren't necessary.  Maybe this will help weed out the honest ones.

      1. habee profile image93
        habeeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        That's too true, but some do it to cover their butts because so many people are lawsuit-happy. lol. Of course, I'm sure some docs do it to run up bills. I once had a rheumatologist who tested me for just about everything under the sun, including some rare disease found only in Africa. I've never been to Africa, by the way. Even the other doctors in town make fun of this guy's extensive testing. In his defense, he's the one who found my cancer cells.

    3. Cagsil profile image81
      Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I can see some walking away. Yep.

      1. JSChams profile image59
        JSChamsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Now lots of them here are trying to downplay that but it's very real.

        1. John Holden profile image61
          John Holdenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Do you really want doctors who'll take off in a snit at the first sign that they aren't going to have it all their own way?

          1. JSChams profile image59
            JSChamsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            83% of them. You think that's just some in a snit?

            1. John Holden profile image61
              John Holdenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Well what do you think it is?

              1. JSChams profile image59
                JSChamsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Many of them are exercising their options at early retirement. They don't like what's coming.
                Why should they?

                1. John Holden profile image61
                  John Holdenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Get some young blood in!

                  1. Cagsil profile image81
                    Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    And do you think experience doctors grow on trees?

                  2. JSChams profile image59
                    JSChamsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    Uh-huh! And make sure they don't mind making about $35K a year!

    4. Ralph Deeds profile image67
      Ralph Deedsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      A mass exodus not likely. The American Medical Association and other doctor's organizations are supporting the Affordable Care Act. Reasonable compensation will be provided under the Act.

      1. Cagsil profile image81
        Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Not a mass exodus, but a lot of Doctors are going to see this as it is, nothing more than a power move for more control over more wealth.
        Thank you for that tidbit of information. Now, I definitely know not to trust the AMA or the organizations supporting it.
        Any compensation set is a restriction of free enterprise, since doctors are held accountable individually, then they are considered self employed and hospital which they associate with are contracting them at a specific price. That price will no longer be controlled by the doctors, which isn't right.

        1. Ralph Deeds profile image67
          Ralph Deedsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          The Doctor Patient Medical Association (DPMA) and the Patient Power Alliance (PPA) work to repeal health care reform[1] and call themselves a "a nonpartisan association of doctors and patients dedicated to preserving free choice in medicine."[2] The organization is a member of the National Tea Party Federation[3] and the "American Grassroots Coalition."[4]

          Ties to the American Legislative Exchange Council

          The DPMA is a member of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). DPMA Chair and Co-Founder, Kathryn Serkes, is on ALEC's Health and Human Services Task Force.[5]

          1. Cagsil profile image81
            Cagsilposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            And your point of saying that with what I said is what exactly?

          2. profile image0
            JaxsonRaineposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Lol Ralph. Copy much?

  2. Uninvited Writer profile image82
    Uninvited Writerposted 6 years ago

    Doctors always threaten to quit when they don't get their way. Many doctors who left Canada to practice in the states came back home because they did not like the fact people couldn't afford medical care.  There will always be doctors to replace those who quit...

    1. Vladimir Uhri profile image61
      Vladimir Uhriposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      U.W. People could afford medical care. Poor get it free. But CEO in one insurance is receiving 2.4 mill a year. But government is going to do much much worse. They reward those who do not want to work, just drinking do drugs. Of course many good people are in troubles. I remember when Medicare precisely was knocking o  the doors to sign in and people "kick" them out. They were happy with affordable insurances. I know physician who undercharged, Medicare gave him in Florida blank check, since he upset their rules.

    2. Vladimir Uhri profile image61
      Vladimir Uhriposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Canadian Dr's. are returning back to Canada since there will be no difference any more in medicine between USA and Canada.
      ***
      We may say good bye to best medicine on the world.
      ***
      Well you can hate doctors but when you get appendicitis do surgery for yourself.

      1. Uninvited Writer profile image82
        Uninvited Writerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        They have been doing this for decades, long before Obama brought in health care.

        Who hates doctors?

        By the way, doctors in Canada are paid a lot more than $2 a day smile

        1. MelissaBarrett profile image60
          MelissaBarrettposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          And as someone who received treatment in a Toronto E.R. I've got to say it was a significantly more pleasant experience than that I received in the E.R. of a much much smaller American town.

        2. Vladimir Uhri profile image61
          Vladimir Uhriposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          I have impression that hating problem is for their jobs. They deserve it, but not politicians, sorry. The issue of Dr's. in Canada is different. Canada is socialistic but not fully implemented. I was talking about Soviet sattelite, my former country. You do not want to listen and not learn from my experiences then it is perfectly OK with me.

  3. innersmiff profile image70
    innersmiffposted 6 years ago

    I think ultimately most would prefer to have a job than not, so I don't expect massive resignations.

  4. JSChams profile image59
    JSChamsposted 6 years ago

    I am always looking towards tort reform myself.

  5. recommend1 profile image69
    recommend1posted 6 years ago

    It is hard to know where to start there is so much twaddle in this thread - in the US, and to a lesser extent in the UK, healthcare commodities and prefessionals are over-charged at the most ridiculous rate and people here still want to defend these leaches on humanity.  I guess that just shows how indoctrinated some of you guys are by your media and tv. 

    The Chinese system in the cities is pay as you go, highly professional and cost effective.  There are cultural differences that take some getting used to but the doctors are highly respected, well paid at normal mid managment salary levels and are actually concerned about their patients. 

    Half connected example - I paid $10,000 for semi-cosmetic dental work, all the repair and root canal treatment, caps and briges for 13 teeth. 
    I took a kid from the countryside who needed special eye work to the local eye hospital - without an appointment we walked in off the road at 9 am got him tested diagnosed, measured and had the special lenses ground and fitted and out of the door by 3 pm, at a total cost of $70 which included coated lenses and fashion frame. 

    The other most noticeable difference between this and western treatment was that I calculated that the  hospital passed through around 1000 people who walked in off the street in the six hours we were there.

    1. Vladimir Uhri profile image61
      Vladimir Uhriposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      See the system is as fallow. There is standard how to charge, set by government. If one charge less then the penalty is they (Medicare/Medicate) are reimbursing less. Drs. use to charge for colonoscopy $2000.  But they receive $200. In the contrary nurse anesthetist receives $300. Where is the brain? If you will charge let say $1000 Medicare will give you next $150. There is a lots game.
      ***
      I remember the cost of gallon of Gas was 25 cents. Why then we now pay $4-5?
      I know the physicians who now study an economy/marketing and will change the profession. (Please forgive me my English).

 
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