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The Romney-Ryan Plan to Obliterate Medicaid

  1. Ralph Deeds profile image65
    Ralph Deedsposted 5 years ago

    Barrels of ink have been spilled over Medicare during this year's campaign. There's nothing wrong with that: Obama and Romney have fundamentally different approaches to Medicare and they deserve attention. Romney, for example, wants to increase the eligibility age to 67 and convert Medicare into a voucher system that relies primarily on competition between private firms to rein in costs. That's a big change. At the same time, the actual differences in what the two candidates would spend on Medicare is fairly modest. This is more a fight over means than ends.

    The same can't be said for Medicaid. Romney wants radical changes here too, promising to "block grant" Medicaid if he's elected. This means the program would be turned over entirely to the states. The federal government would continue to provide a share of funding, but that funding would go straight into state coffers, and states could decide how to spend it. So the question is: Once released from federal regulations, what would states do with their Medicaid money?  More here:

    http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2 … n-medicaid

    1. Repairguy47 profile image60
      Repairguy47posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Good, there is another reason to vote for him. Thanks Ralph.

      1. Ralph Deeds profile image65
        Ralph Deedsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        For your sake I hope your not a 47 percenter.

        1. Repairguy47 profile image60
          Repairguy47posted 5 years agoin reply to this

          No I'm not, I actually work and pay my own way, no needs from this job killing government.

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            LikaMarieposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Well, congratulations to you.  Be grateful that you're not downsized or outsourced, or grossly underpaid for your job.

          2. movingout profile image60
            movingoutposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Repairguy, so you don't have aproblem with the "living prophet" of the Morman church, speaking FOR GOD to it's followers? SO, if the living prophet tells, say a president Romney go to war, that's okay? Do yourself a favor and search living prophet and planet kolob and the Morman church. Republicans made a big deal out of Rev. Wright, correct? You might be shocked with the google search results forf living prophet and planet kolob. That search makes rev. wright a saint! And no, I'm an Independent not a Democrat. You know? One of those swing voters! lol

            1. Repairguy47 profile image60
              Repairguy47posted 5 years agoin reply to this

              Yeah, you sure seem to be independent. roll

              1. movingout profile image60
                movingoutposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                And you seem to be in denial of the facts. I voted for President Bush. I believed him when he said giving tax breaks to the rich would create jobs. Did it? No And I believed he would sign the health care bill allowing "like businesses" to pool together to get pricing on health insurance. Did he? No. Many Republicans want to attack the POTUS for Rev Wrights statements, yet you refuse to research what I wrote above?

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                  LikaMarieposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Do you know that with the billions, even trillions of dollars of tax breaks that Bush gave to the wealthy and such, that only 9% of that went to job creation?  That means that 91% went back into fattening up the already fattened back pockets of his wealthy friends.

                  1. American View profile image61
                    American Viewposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    Please cite your source

            2. Ralph Deeds profile image65
              Ralph Deedsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              Not to mention their funny underwear!

        2. wilderness profile image99
          wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Interesting comment.  I assume you refer to the (large) group of Americans that do not share in the financing of the federal government.

          If so, do you mean that anyone wishing to continue living off the forced charity of others should vote for Obama?  At least in the field of free*  medical care?

          *Actually, "free" is a poor description (there is no such thing as free medical care as someone always pays for it); "paid for by others" is a better description.

        3. JSChams profile image60
          JSChamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR!

    2. JSChams profile image60
      JSChamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      \Wow those people came down long enough to write something? Must have cleaned out the old bong huh?
      Credibility issues there Ralph. I know you don't think so but.........

      1. tammybarnette profile image60
        tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        "Those people" meaning?....

        1. JSChams profile image60
          JSChamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Mother Jones.....his link....

          1. tammybarnette profile image60
            tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            You refute the source I take it?

            1. JSChams profile image60
              JSChamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              Just every bit as much as someone will refute when I use a Breitbart link.
              Or try to link to Wikipedia.

              1. tammybarnette profile image60
                tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                plug into factcheck.org there are tons of links to choose from, and they call out both parties on BS..this is a good place to check facts, I use it daily...You can not believe anything you hear and only half of what you see:) I am a democrat, but...I want to know the truth about both parties:)

                1. JSChams profile image60
                  JSChamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Guess what Tammy? i am a Democrat too. When the idiots leave the Party I will come back. I speak this as the black sheep of my family.

                  1. tammybarnette profile image60
                    tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    Me too,LOL...I live in TN, I'm the black sheep of the majority of my state....HAhaha....

                2. habee profile image96
                  habeeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Good for you!

                  1. tammybarnette profile image60
                    tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    smile

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      LikaMarieposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      We have a republican governor here in Wisconsin.  I can pretty much guarantee that he would not use the block grants for medicaid to help the poor get/stay insured.  Only the extreme impoverished would be safe, and the rest would go toward programming like abstinence only sex education.

      I also have a problem with social security funds getting used in such manner.  Unlike what Romney says, SS is NOT necessarily an entitlement program.  Only unless you're benefiting w/o having the work behind it to pay in.  Otherwise, for the rest of us working chaps, it's OUR money for OUR retirement.

      Maybe instead of turning into a voucher program where there is a cap, once that money is used, that's it, he should use his own tax breaks to pay back the IOU's stuck in the S.S. pot.  Same goes for the 1%.

    4. Credence2 profile image81
      Credence2posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Hi, Ralph as always the rightwinger by definition remains  a statutory irritant.The president and progressives need to "out" Romney, a term used within homosexual circles. In effect we need to corner the weasel and give him no where to move just prior to a checkmate in a good chess game.

      We progressives need to be as bold in making the Romney and GOP lies clear to everyone.If the President can get this kind of contrary information out to people asking questions in tonights debate, it would be great. Let us all put the heat on the little plutocrat and force him to explain why he  is anything but the moderate he keeps portraying himself as.

    5. profile image65
      logic,commonsenseposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Just another liberal scare tactic.  I'm sure you believe that RandR want to kill their parents too.
      The program needs revised in order for it to survive. The current administration doesn't have the guts to do anything, so they put down those that have ideas to consider.
      Only true morons would believe that Romney would actually obliterate Medicaid.
      Same goes for the scare tactic regarding women.  obama is not only clueless and incompetent, he is vicious dirty politician who is running scared because people are actually starting to see thru his facade.

  2. William F. Torpey profile image71
    William F. Torpeyposted 5 years ago

    That sounds like a reasonable comparison, Ralph, but when you consider the history of the Republican Party and its positions on social issues -- especially since the FDR days -- then it becomes clear (to me at least) that Romney's plan is just an initial step to start the dissolution of Medicare and Social Security. Romney's campaign as a "severe conservative" during the primaries and his numerous lies during his first debate with President Obama make clear he will say what he thinks his audience wants to hear. His true position, however, is clearly to eliminate social programs while cutting the taxes of his fellow millionaires to the greatest extent possible. In short, he simply is not believable.

    1. Repairguy47 profile image60
      Repairguy47posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Would you mind pointing out those lies and provide proof they are in fact lies?

      1. tammybarnette profile image60
        tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Repairguy, may I ask, why would you want millions of seniors to lose their medicaid? Are old, fragile, sick people just not good enough to be Americans? These people worked their behinds off their entire lives and paid taxes into this government, so what is your beef with them being able to see their doctors and take their medications, and be comfortable before death...I mean what is your reasoning with these statements your making? Your voting for Romney, okay, good for you, but what in the world makes you think you are superior to the elderly?

        1. habee profile image96
          habeeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Are you talking about Medicare or Medicaid? Medicaid isn't specifically for the elderly - that's Medicare.

          1. tammybarnette profile image60
            tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, but over 60% are elderly, the rest are usually children of poor families and the disabled, which I believe makes the same point...I do not understand this new superior line of thinking that I am hearing from the right these days...

            1. habee profile image96
              habeeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              You said "they worked their behinds off." Some people on Medicaid have never been employed.

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                LikaMarieposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                Most of the people on Medicaid who have never been employed are disabled.  So should we cut them off, since they didn't pay into the system?  Many people who also have worked their butts off didn't make enough to have a significant amount of money to get back in S.S. - so that would make them needy of Medicaid as well as Medicare.

                p.s.  Most of my family works in the health care industry in some form or another.  I get my facts from what I see, and what others see first hand.

            2. habee profile image96
              habeeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              According to Kaiser, only 10% of those on Medicaid are elderly. That's the 2009 figure, but it's hard to believe it jumped 50% in 3 years.

              http://facts.kff.org/chart.aspx?ch=465

              1. tammybarnette profile image60
                tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                http://www.medicaidprogram.net/ I also noticed that being poor is not enough to be qualified

                1. tammybarnette profile image60
                  tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Babyboomers, I assume...

                2. habee profile image96
                  habeeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  I didn't see the figure in your link about 60% of Medicaid recipients being elderly. Did I miss it? Something interesting I did see was the amount of fraud and errors that cost $$$$.

                  1. tammybarnette profile image60
                    tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    I believe it said 68% were in nursing homes...maybe I shouldn't have assumed they were all elderly persons, I know some disabled are also in nursing homes..

          2. Jean Bakula profile image100
            Jean Bakulaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I have concerns about the pre-existing condition issue. Just having a spine curvature, for years I had to fight mean doctors who tried to blame any illness I had on my back, no matter how unrelated it was. I would never want to go back to that, but did pay my own insurance then, I was not on any assistance, I was still working.

            1. Repairguy47 profile image60
              Repairguy47posted 5 years agoin reply to this

              So you had bad Doctors? Do you think Doctors will somehow be superior because of Obama care? Actually they will probably be worse an less of them. If you think thats a good trade then good luck.

              1. tammybarnette profile image60
                tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                Show me your proof of this right wing arguement

                1. Repairguy47 profile image60
                  Repairguy47posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  When you prove that I feel superior.

        2. Repairguy47 profile image60
          Repairguy47posted 5 years agoin reply to this

          The strawman argument, nice tactic. Works better when you use the right demographic group however. Nice try though.

          1. tammybarnette profile image60
            tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I DID use the right demographic group, look it up! 60% are the elderly, the rest are mostly children and the disabled...So are you saying you just think you are superior to the poor?

            1. Repairguy47 profile image60
              Repairguy47posted 5 years agoin reply to this

              I said that I would be glad for the states to control medicare, I said I worked and paid my own way. How you came to the conclusion that I feel superior is beyond me.

              1. tammybarnette profile image60
                tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                Medicaid is mostly controlled by the states, I pay my own way, but I do not think that those whose lives aren't as easy as mine should just crawl in a corner and die...what in the world is going on with people these days! Heavens sake, their are hurting people in this world that DIDN"T get there because they are lazy and want to live off of the stupid government! Sure, there are people who abuse the system at the bottom, but FAR more that abuse it at the top!

                1. Repairguy47 profile image60
                  Repairguy47posted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  And who is promoting that they should suffer? I think the states would do a better job. How do you get the thoughts that I want people to suffer? I know where, you made it up because you think and want others to think Republicans or Conservative are mean. Typical left wing tactics...

                  1. tammybarnette profile image60
                    tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    Repairguy, I have no need for tactics because I actually have facts. I do not like the conservative party that is running for office, I do like many conservative people, even at the top...Huntsman seems like a great man, he should be running, That would be a fair choice for the conservative party

          2. LiamBean profile image89
            LiamBeanposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Repairguy: Where's the strawman? That typically means the responder creates a character to stand in for a real person. This isn't the case with this question. Those seniors, many of whom worked their fannies off to get us through a war on two fronts, have little or nothing to fall back on. They are real however, not strawmen.

        3. JSChams profile image60
          JSChamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR!

      2. William F. Torpey profile image71
        William F. Torpeyposted 5 years agoin reply to this
    2. Ralph Deeds profile image65
      Ralph Deedsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I completely agree.

  3. habee profile image96
    habeeposted 5 years ago

    Medicaid is already run by the individual states, under federal guidelines. Perhaps the states would do a better job if they had more control.

    1. tammybarnette profile image60
      tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Habee, I hate to say it, but I seriously doubt that. My grandmother passed away last year right before Thanksgiving. She worked on the space shuttle...Hell of a woman! At the end of her life she was hold up in a tiny room in a nursing home....They have recently built on to this nursing home....my aunt went in last week, the rooms are still just as tiny so they can shove them in and take their money! It is so sad the way we treat our old people in this country.

      1. JSChams profile image60
        JSChamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Sad to hear.
        At the same time she worked for one of the most elite of government agencies and that is all it got her?
        Now we are supposed to believe they will do better for the rest of us?
        Sorry for your loss but that may have not been the best example for you to use.

        1. tammybarnette profile image60
          tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Actually the perfect example....you do not need to be on the bottom now to end up there one day....

      2. Mighty Mom profile image86
        Mighty Momposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Absolutely agree. Don't get me started on how we treat our seniors, our elders. It's a total racket. Get Grandma into the home and have her pay for a couple of months. Then her money runs out and they can't kick her out. They get paid by Medicaid. Yes. Medicaid, not Medicare.
        That whole system needs to be seriously overhauled. But I suspect that given the rapidly advancing sea of Baby Boomers, there is little incentive to reform an industry that's raking in the dough while letting old people stew in their own piss in -- as you point out -- undignified conditions.
        sad

        1. habee profile image96
          habeeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          I agree that we need to treat the elderly better. My mom died in an assisted living facility. She wasn't on Medicaid. She had enough retirement income to almost pay the monthly fee, and my brother and I covered the rest. It was a wonderful place - a far cry from most "nursing homes." What really angers me is the families who totally neglect their elderly in nursing homes. I volunteer in elderly facilities sometimes, and I always leave sad and depressed. Some of these individuals have been all but forgotten by family members.

          1. Mighty Mom profile image86
            Mighty Momposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I hear ya, Habee.
            My dad put himself into a retirement facility after my mom died, also private pay.
            It was also a high end, really nice one. He met amazing people -- former judges, pilots, lots of WWII vets (women and men).
            But you're so right. If your family abandons you there, it doesn't much matter if the surroundings are nice or nasty. And that is all too common.

            1. habee profile image96
              habeeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              Hubby and I moved in with Mom when she first developed Alzheimer's because we didn't want her to have to leave her home. When the condition advanced, however, we had no choice. I was still working full time then, and she had to be watched 24/7. That was one of the worst days of my life. At least we didn't forget her, though. I visited almost every day, and sometimes more than once a day. My brother, my daughters, my grandkids, and other relatives and friends visited often. Also, Mom had several old friends in the same facility, so that was nice.

              1. tammybarnette profile image60
                tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                My grandfather took care of my grandmother as long as he could. Most beautiful love story I have ever seen. She was visited often as well...Although they both retired well from good careers, her illness almost bankrupted them...the cost of her medications alone...There are plenty of people who played by the rules and are getting screwed over by the system....And yes MM, it robs them of their dignity! It's a crying shame to say the least.

  4. movingout profile image60
    movingoutposted 5 years ago

    Details would be nice as far as Romney/Ryan ticket. I hear 5 point plan but no details. Wants Obamacare gone, entitlement programs as well. These politicians has the best insurance tax payer money could "Give them", and yet in their opinion, "Some" shouldn't be helped! I'm starting to wonder here? If he's elected good bye SS, Medicare, Medicaid, disabilty? Wish he would enlighten us what his "Plan Details" are?

    1. tammybarnette profile image60
      tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Amen!

  5. Ericdierker profile image72
    Ericdierkerposted 5 years ago

    I am over 50 and unless I win the lottery will be relying on these programs. (you just threw in SS, so I will ignore that) At some point you have to say -- yes this would be better for me, but that would be better for my country. Then you got to support that.
    A really fine thing about the USA is that we have a legislative and executive branch. And as we see with Obamacare a Judiciary.  Neither can just do as they please. So I think a president with a bent toward redoing and decentralizing will result in a proper balance moving forward. No one here rules by fiat, so I like to look at how ideas fit into the whole system. We need a tug away from socialized medicine not the other way.

  6. Xenonlit profile image60
    Xenonlitposted 5 years ago

    Why people over 50 are buying into Romney/Ryan has more to do with racial politics than sense. Romney actually does not want to obliterate Medicare because he can't. We paid into those programs.

    What he really want's to do is to hand the nation's most rich treasure over to his greedy cronies for their profit.

    He is fully aware that it will cost more to administer Medicare if private firms skim off money for profit, but as long as he and his friends get richer, that is all that matters.

    This is a man who resents the soldiers who are fighting the wars he loves so much because many of them don't make enough to pay taxes! It is not a stretch to see this sick man grabbing a solvent system and enriching himself.

    And if people are so appreciative of their medicare, then why are they voting for the man who will destroy it and them? There is something irrational and wrong with almost half of America, for Romney to be showing so well in the polls.

    1. readytoescape profile image60
      readytoescapeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Where do you come up with this garbage?

      You all need to face the facts that both Medicare and Social Security are going Bankrupt. These programs are going bankrupt because funds from these programs were raided and mismanaged almost from the onset when it was recognized by previous legislative bodies these programs were easy to “borrow” (pilfer) from.

      Had these programs been left alone and untouched, rather than poached to fortify the General Fund to pay for other entitlement and social programs (Welfare, Planned Parenthood, Endowment for the Arts, just to name a few) they would have provided exactly what was promised with billions in surplus. Thank the Left for the ruination of two great ideas.

      I think it is a bit funny and extraordinarily pathetic, that you all have been duped by the lies being told you by the very people that stole the principal from the Social Security and Medicare annuity funds to begin with.

      The simple fact of the matter is neither of these programs have the money to pay the benefits as promised. Why do you think this government is borrowing money now from countries around the world?   

      So you can choose to go merrily along and watch these systems fail and drag our nation deeper in debt (the Obama Choice) or you can attempt to address the issue to correct the problem, (the Romney Choice.)

      Let's make it simpler you can buy a porterhouse steak tonight, have a great meal and starve the rest of the week, or you can use the same amount of money and buy soup to eat all month.

      1. tammybarnette profile image60
        tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        readytoescape, look up the numbers from the CBO who has sais that obamacare will actually decrease the deficit and the R/R plan of repealing it will add to the deficit...run the numbers for yourself...There are ways to work on all social programs to reienforce their humanitiarian causation and purpose...SS for instance has a huge accounting error, the cap is set to low and has not been updated to inflationary measures, something Obama mentioned in 2008...there is always a way for America to work together for the good of all people...R/R plan to throw all of the money people have been paying in to the stock market right at the time the Fed has decided to no longer report M3, which is by the way the best measure for economic bubbles, so what happens when the stock market goes belly up again....all that have already paid in lose everything ie...401Ks of the last bubble burst..people need to quit believing in talking points and look the points up and do the math as a concerned citizen should.

        1. American View profile image61
          American Viewposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Tammy,

          I sent you a link once before showing you the latest CBO figures showing Obamacare will add a trillion dollars to the national debt and insurance premiums will go up approximately $ 3,000 per year, and millions will be left without insurance. I know you reject the link last time but it does not change the fact of the CBO conclusions. The report you cite is Pre Supreme Court decision, he CBO updated after the Supreme Court decision.

          1. tammybarnette profile image60
            tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I sent you back the updated link and apologized for sending the older one before the supreme court decision, as well as the link providing the letter to Bahner about the immense added cost for repealing ...

            1. tammybarnette profile image60
              tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              By the way I provided the link from the CBO not a left wing oraganization, the one you sent me was from the heritage foundation a known right wing organization...I would also be glad to send you links about the Fed decision to stop reporting M3 if you like.

              1. tammybarnette profile image60
                tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this
                1. American View profile image61
                  American Viewposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Ignore it all you want, does not change the fact your links were prior Supreme court, the Heritage link was post Supreme court and had the actual latest  CBO report.

                  I am disappointed in you. I thought you were someone who wanted all the actual information even if it does not agree with your viewpoint. We have had some good civil discussions in the past, one of the biggest reasons I have respected you here on HP. TO not read something, I know you are better than that.

                  I read every link including these two very outdated links you provided, one from March 23, 2006 and the other from May 23, 2006. I think it is safe to say things have changed since then.  I always find them informative as to why a person has the belief they have. Sometimes I even find facts I was no aware of.

                  1. tammybarnette profile image60
                    tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                    The link at the bottom of this page is the UPDATED link that I sent you, yes it is from right after the courts decision...and I DID read your link, I told you that on the last forum, I respect you and your views and I appreciate that you return respect to me..we just disagree, I still think your an awesome American:)

  7. JSChams profile image60
    JSChamsposted 5 years ago

    http://s1.hubimg.com/u/7269712_f248.jpg

    1. tammybarnette profile image60
      tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this
      1. tammybarnette profile image60
        tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        JSChams, I can tell you this, we have bluecross/blueshield and our premiums haven't changed...just a people story, but a fact:)

        1. JSChams profile image60
          JSChamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Obviously it's up somewhere right?

          1. tammybarnette profile image60
            tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I guess we will have to see JS, I read all of the budgetary information and so I will have to wait for a new report...I will be checking though my friend:)

            1. JSChams profile image60
              JSChamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

              See let me tell you about something I have a tendency to do.
              Seems every time i post or get into something here all of a sudden everyone has all these links to this that and the other.
              i look out the window and see what is happening.
              i call it the proof is in the pudding.
              now someone made that a headline somewhere.
              Where's the pudding?
              Because i am one of those who believes the internet is such anyone can find whatever numbers they like to shore up their argument.
              look out the window and see what's happening. not what a calculator says is happening.

              1. tammybarnette profile image60
                tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                I do agree with that to an extent, here in my neck of the woods people are doing pretty good...jobs on the rise, employment down, huge college enrollments...I mean we are doing great, people at the church are doing great...BUT, the food pantries are running out of food so, we still have many hurting, even if their not in my neighborhood...so the churches step up drives, the school kids get out and collect, we do what we can with what we have.

                1. tammybarnette profile image60
                  tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  unemployment down, lol lol

  8. tirelesstraveler profile image82
    tirelesstravelerposted 5 years ago

    Paul, Medicare is only going to be around for another 11 years (according to Office of Finance)  at the rate its going.  Changing things, so it lasts a bit longer is going to hurt how?

  9. Repairguy47 profile image60
    Repairguy47posted 5 years ago

    And I never said you weren't American! That's you in hysterics. Liberals tend to be overly emotional.

    1. tammybarnette profile image60
      tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Yes I am hysterical and emotional and not southern not American...what else am I or am I not since you know me so well...I do not get hysterical nor emotional sir, I have had 3 teen girls and a new baby to care for all at once...Getting emotional and hysterical would not bode well in those circumstances nor in these hard times we are facing, but you may choose to believe whatever you so wish...you already do politically so why wouldn't you personally, LOL

      1. habee profile image96
        habeeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        I have 3 daughters, and they were all teens at the same time. I empathize!

        1. tammybarnette profile image60
          tammybarnetteposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          Lot of fun, but very hard work, huh?smile

  10. LiamBean profile image89
    LiamBeanposted 5 years ago

    Repairguy is full of unadulterated crap. Unless, that is, he built his own home with tools he made himself, built the roads he uses to do his repair work, created his own tools for the repair business, built his own car and so on.

    That or he doesn't get "you had help somewhere along the line."

    1. Ralph Deeds profile image65
      Ralph Deedsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Yep.

  11. someonewhoknows profile image72
    someonewhoknowsposted 5 years ago

    We would all be better off taking care of our own health to the extent that we are able to through diet exercise and omega 3 fatty acids found in seafood such as canned salmon flaxseed oil ,organic fruits and veggies eaten raw of course raw almonds and high quality protein and  healthy fats found in avacado, extra-virgin Olive oil and taking a superior multi-vitamin mineral suppliment as well.

    Organic cultured yogert  with omgea 3 fatty acid oil along with fresh organic fruit for breakfast .

    Stay away from GMO'S -Genetically Modified Organisms - food from genetically modified seeds such as corn and soybeans two of the biggest crops Corporate Farms and some Independent domestic and foreign farmers are practically forced to buy along with pesticides and herbicides that are killing honey bees and making people sick.

    We are killing ourselves by letting corporations take over our government.

    Monsanto is in charge of the FDA . The Fox is guarding the hen house and killing the hens.
    The roosters are all dead except for the few needed to keep the hens around.

    1. Mighty Mom profile image86
      Mighty Momposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Excellent points.
      FOX News is the one guarding the henhouse!

      For the record, Obamacare includes widespread wellness support to reduce chronic health problems in our fat, sick population.
      I've heard health care providers (hospital systems and existing community health clinics) talking about changing doctor incentives to pay them to keep their patients WELL rather than rewarding them for treating patients only when they get sick.

      What a concept, eh?

      1. movingout profile image60
        movingoutposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        @Mighty Mom, what a concept indeed! lol Can't wait for the other sides rebuttal to your statement! lol

        1. American View profile image61
          American Viewposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          I am not the other side, but I can tell you from first hand experience, Obamacare is a disaster, and when you get into a serious health issue as I have been living with for the last 5 years, you will understand.

 
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