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He-man, "Me-Tarzan." Older White Males dying out...

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    Sophia Angeliqueposted 5 years ago

    One of the really interesting things about the last election was that the only group that was dominant in support Romney were older white man. Women deserted him in droves. Ethnic minorities deserted him in droves. Younger men and younger women deserted him in droves.

    So let's do some deduction over here.

    Obviously, older men are dying off. It happens. So you could say that their mindset is dying out. Also, during the next four years, those older men that went to the great big cave in the sky will be replaced by younger men and younger woman who pass the voting age.

    Then look at the demographics. By 2020 - a mere 7 years away now, Latino births will overtake 'white' births.'

    So from a demographic point of view, 2016 will, once more, go to the demographics.

    You have to ask yourself a question.

    What is is about the mindset of older white men that is so out of touch with reality? Well, many of these men grew up in the communist area and they fought in Vietnam. For most of their lives, they grew up with the threat of nuclear warfare. They lived it and breathed it. Most of the younger people didn't. The two see completely different worlds.

    Also, culturally, these men grew up in a 'Me-Tarzan-You-Jane' time. They honestly believe that one has to do it all by oneself. The problem, of course, is that the world has moved on from apes living in trees. Tarzan is no longer needed. These days we see cooperation as a better solutoin than tribal warfare, if you get my drift.

    Why do you think that older white man have such a different mindset to the rest of the population?

    1. gmwilliams profile image85
      gmwilliamsposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      The older Caucasian males were born from the World War II generation.  We are addressing the more conservative, right wing, and reactionary Caucasian male.    Some were indoctrinated with the concept of the strong male persona.   They were inculcated with the premise that women were to be housewives/mothers and totally subservient to male authority.    They were also taught the premise that might=power=right, no doubt about it.   

      Besides, some older Caucasian males were told that because of their complexion, they were supreme over Blacks, Latinos, Native Americans, and Asians.    They were told that such people are considered to be "the other".    "The other" in many male American Caucasian cultures were considered to be "lesser" and "inferior".      They believe that as Caucasian males that they have supreme hegemony over other people.   

      Those especially in the all white enclave have the feeling of unmitigated racial and gender superiority.   They believe that as Caucasian males, they are first, foremost, and right.   Their attitude towards females is one of paternal indulgence.  The idea that women have just as much rights as they have is quite damaging to their "male ego."     They want to believe that the female is in an inferior status because by oppressing her, they feel that they have the ultimate hegemony.   

      Thankfully, such men are in the minority and are becoming dinosaurs.    Most people are having the good sense and intellect to realize that all of us are one regardless of gender, sexual orientation, race, ethnicity, age, and other protected class status.   The idea of superficial subdivisions based upon the aforementioned categories is quite atavistic indeed.

    2. wilderness profile image98
      wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      You ask interesting questions, but with a spin that I usually disagree with.  As I mostly agree with what you're saying here (minus the spin) let me rephrase it with a different spin and with considerable exaggeration to make the point clear.

      Growing up in the communist era didn't matter; growing up when a person received what they earned did.  These old white men worked for what they wanted and fully expected to do just that.  They understand that production comes from individual effort, not from crying for someone else to do the work.

      Yes, it is a part of the Tarzan time, but not in the field of sex roles.  Current old white men expect their wives to participate in the work as well as themselves.  They also know very well that the world has not moved on from "reap what we sow", that the incentive to produce will not be grown from the soil of inactivity.  They have not fallen into the trap of believing that half the people can support the other half, while building a strong and productive land. 

      Old white men know that team work is great, it's essential and it's of huge value, but they also know that teamwork (cooperation) does not consist of half the team doing 90% of the work.  They fully understand reality; that while that kind of "cooperation" may be great for those that can't or won't produce, the inevitable result is a long term decline in national productivity as incentive to produce is taken away.

      That's why old white men have a different mindset; they've seen the results of going down the road of "cooperation" being proposed today and know it won't work in the long run.  They don't live in a world of rose colored glasses; they live in reality.

      1. PrettyPanther profile image84
        PrettyPantherposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        You left out the part about how these old white men who value cooperation place the highest value upon cooperation with other old white men, followed closely by cooperation with younger white men who have bought into the old white man cultural ideal.

        An exaggeration, of course, but one that its a certain segment of American culture.

  2. Dame Scribe profile image60
    Dame Scribeposted 5 years ago

    I prefer to think that as a society over all, we are outgrowing such a mindset. Ones with such narrow thinking will be considered living in 'caves' and avoided. Today's society is somewhat more open minded with shared goals for a better life for all and not just one. It shows growth smile something we should all be proud of attaining. We still have problems but least working 'together', people giving 'voice' to their concern with gov't, does help. It's just gov't that has to listen tongue

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      Sophia Angeliqueposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I think the majority has moved on to working together for the common good. Science supports that cooperation gets more done in certain situations than competition does. I think you are right - we are growing, evolving to a better way of doing everything, understanding that the common good is good for everybody. smile