Harry Reid does what he does best....lie.

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   Barefootfaeposted 11 years ago

   http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ … evada.html
   
   7 Marines were killed in a live fire accident today.
   In true liberal fashion Harry Reid wasted no time in blaming the sequester for the deaths.
   I will be glad when Nevada grows some common sense and a pair and throws him out.

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      Old Poolmanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Harry Reid is a disgrace to politics in general.  He has been there far to long and needs to go home and tend his garden.

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         Education Answerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Harry Reid is one of the worst, agreed.  He says whatever he has to say to make political capital or to get elected.

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            Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            The Marines are not very happy at all about what he said. They have publicly refuted it.

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               Old Poolmanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Harry just couldn't pass up yet another opportunity to try blaming something on the Republicans.  He almost appears to be getting senile at times.

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      Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Decreased funding without actual military cuts can cause accidents. It may well be what happened.

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         Old Poolmanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Josak - As usual, you see the world from the other side of the fence.  I would think that hardly enough time has passed since sequestration was put in effect to cause an accident such as this one.  From the details available, it would appear it was an equipment malfunction and sequestration would hardly be a factor.
         If you have some facts on how sequestration could has caused this accident I would be very interested in hearing them.

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         Education Answerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Josak,
         
         This is ridiculous.  If a capitalist, especially a conservative, says that blue is blue, you'd refute it with "evidence." This accident is most likely an accident.  Let's wait and see what the report says instead of blaming the sequester. The sequester has already received enough erroneous, falsified blame.

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            Old Poolmanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            These were Marines that were killed.  You can bet it will be thoroughly investigated and the findings accurately reported.  There will be no coverup like with Fast & Furious or Benghazi.  I seriously doubt that sequestration will be mentioned in the report.
            Harry Reid was way out of line with this one, but as usual, nobody will call him on it.

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      junksellerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Terrible and disgusting. Can you imagine if Republicans had used the Benghazi consulate attack to score political points. It's not like there aren't a whole pack of pigs lined up at that trough, right?
      
      And actually, the fact that you will use this situation to score your own political points makes you no better than Reid. If you ask me.

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         Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I am not trying to score anything.
         I am trying to show hypocrisy among other thing that always..........always.....gets swept under the rug or ignored IF it's a liberal.
         
         
         A L W A Y S !

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            junksellerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Story on NBC:
            http://www.nbcnews.com/id/51250706/ns/l … UoEuDdsLPo
            
            You mention the reporting by NBC's Jim Miklaszewski, but fail to mention that that video clip was from a show by MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell.
            
            Here's a story on ABC:
            http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 … sequester/
            
            Video on CBS:
            http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50143167n
            
            And an article on Huffington Post:
            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/1 … 09706.html
            
            I doubt you'll be interested, but this article quotes an actual Marine spokesman who says that the 'official' statements identified by the NBC report are "unsubstantiated and certainly do not reflect the Marine Corps' position on this matter." But, I am sure you'd rather stand by the anonymous Marine officials whose position happens to suit you better.
            
            So of course here we are once again suffering through the delusions of the conservative hate machine who are either too stupid, lazy, or plain dishonest to know that no one is sweeping this under the rug as you claim.
            
            If you want to at least pretend that you are not trying to score political points, than you'd really have to not say things like "In true liberal fashion..." It kind of gives you away.

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               Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Hey that's ok.....hate the Marines. Have fun.
               
               Harry Reid insinuated something that is not so..
               
               Period. I could not possibly care less what you think of the fact that I don't like that.
               Do you honestly believe the Marine Corps is stupid enough to do a live fire exercise with grenades of they had the slightest idea there was a safety issue?
               
               Really?

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                  junksellerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Ok, so just to summarize:
                  
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                  Barefottfae: How dare Reid use American deaths for a political agenda
                  
                  Junkseller: Aren't you doing the same?
                  
                  Barefootfae: No, I'm pointing out liberal hypocrisy. They "always...always...ALWAY!" sweep things like this under the rug.
                  
                  Junkseller: Really, here's a pack of 'liberal' media stories about this topic.
                  
                  Barefottfae: Shut up, you hate Marines!
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                  Haha! Hilarious. You have the intellectual potency of a turnip. No offense to turnips.

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                     Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     You see it is like this......
                     
                     Forget Harry Reid.....what's the matter with Barefootfae?
                     How about a little deflection?
                     Basically you don't care what Harry did but let's do what we do as good liberals and try to kill the messenger.
                     
                     I think I asked this before.....do you honestly think the Marines are stupid? That they would conduct an affair like that without safety?

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                        junksellerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        Forget both of you is the point. I have made no mention of ignoring or forgetting Harry Reid. In fact I provided a lengthy list of links discussing the matter. More than you did. That isn't deflection, it is simply pointing out that a charlatan is a charlatan. Why listen to any of them?
                        
                        Furthermore, you yourself, identified hypocrisy as something worthwhile to criticize. You lambasting one side for politicizing tragedy while ignoring the other side which frequently does the same, means you are essentially doing the same thing they are: using an event only to make a political point. If Harry Reid disgusts you than so too should your mirror if you ever looked in it.
                        
                        The Marines in my estimation are probably the finest military branch on the planet. No bad word towards them has ever come from me, so go hump your insinuations.

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                           Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                           So basically shut up if you don't like him because you shouldn't like yourself?
                           
                           I am sorry but HE WAS WRONG. i am not the Senate Majority leader he is and should have some common decency about him. Trying to connect what happened to the sequester was nothing but a ploy.....you flipping well know it.
                           Sorry if you don't like that I pointed it out. God knows lot's of the media didn't want to talk about it.
                           Sorry....when this bunch screws the pooch I WILL talk about it.
                           
                           Just like you did George Bush right?

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                              junksellerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                              Trying to connect Benghazi or Fast and Furious or Solyndra or on and on and on are nothing but ploys as well. Doesn't stop people from doing it. At least in some cases, including you, who just today (was it?) started up a bash Obama Benghazi thread.
                              
                              It's not an issue of mentioning it, it's an issue of being a mudslinger and nothing more. You don't seem to ever actually talk about the issues. You don't talk about the sequester or the military budget. You don't talk about embassy security. Your only interest seems to be to attack people. You mention "common decency." Yes, that's the point. You lack common decency which you might know if you, as I suggested, looked in the mirror once in awhile. I can't do anything about Mr. Reid. I can, however, do something about the crudity of people I encounter. In this case I'm calling you out for it.

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                                 Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                 Sure I talk about the sequester. This thread has to do with it.
                                 Basically you are still trying to tell me I shouldn't have the right to question what's going on when Harry Reid says something totally senseless and ignorant.
                                 I can only imagine how the families of the Marines feel.
                                 Of course i am certain you never ever ever ever said anything about anything in the Bush years.
                                 Nice try.................I ain't shuttin up.

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                                    junksellerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                    You haven't actually said anything about the sequester. All you have done is bash Reid. I haven't said anything about what you should or shouldn't do. Flap your mouth all you want, but at the same time when crass crap comes out of it that has no purpose other than childish partisan spit-fighting I won't hesitate to say something either.
                                    
                                    Heck ya, I had plenty to say during the Bush years. I have little doubt that history will record him as one of, if not the worst, President ever. Most notably I complained about his wars, as well as the overall reaction and posture to terrorism. I still do complain about these things, and I criticize Obama for them the same as I did Bush. Notice the difference there.

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                                       Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                       ]You obviously are uninformed to the point that you don't know Reid used the sequester...coward that he is .....to try and explain the death of the Marines.
                                       
                                       It's not true and there is no excuse for it. But......he is one of the leaders of "The Enlightened" therefore I must be chastened and chastened severely for even suggesting the essence of ignorance on his part....right?
                                       
                                       You deserve anything he does.

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                                          junksellerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                          So, I'm somehow uninformed, even though I provided links containing the information that I am supposedly uninformed about? How in the world does that make any sense at all? You really have no idea what you are even saying, do you?
                                          
                                          You aren't being chastised for what you said about Reid. In fact I agreed with you. You are being chastised for being a pure mudslinger and nothing more. You are being chastised for putting politics above any other consideration. Everything right is good and glorious. Everything left is bad and wicked. Those are eyes of a fool.
                                          
                                          "You deserve anything he does" ?
                                          What the hell does that even mean? I deserve his words? Are they going to come eat me or something? Shoot out death rays and wipe out all the good people in the world? Good grief.

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                                             Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                             Yes.....i am the quintessence of evil.

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                                                junksellerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                                First thing you've ever said I actually might agree with.

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                                                   Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                                   If you are an adult you know better than that.

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                                                      junksellerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                                                      You said it, not me.

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               Old Poolmanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Regardless if one leans left or leans right, to blame this tragedy on sequestration before the investigation was completed and the findings announced was pure politics.  Harry Reid should have at least waited for the facts before he played the blame game.

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                  junksellerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Well, I probably wouldn't agree with it being political as much as others might, but I do agree with your overall point about pure politics, but then that constitutes a good chunk of everything we get from Washington. I don't have any issue complaining about pure politics, but in the spirit of so doing, Barefootfae is as guilty as anyone. She uses anything and everything for pure politics. Why anyone should suffer her more than they would suffer anyone else who plays that game, was my only point.
                  
                  Me pointing that out, in her mind, has somehow turned me into a Marine hater, which is a pretty good example of an unbelievable leap into the absurd that is evidently required to hold together delusions.

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   Marsden4posted 11 years ago

   Given that the sequester cut back on maintenance of military equipment, it isn't implausible or unthinkable that there could be a connection between it and the resulting explosion.
   
   I do think that this is likely a freak accident though. They happen; and it's an awful shame when they do and lives are lost.

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      Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      The USMC has stated that the exercise was planned and budgeted long before the sequester.
      If safety had been any sort of concern the exercise would have been canceled.
      The sequester does not remove common sense from military field commanders.
      They are incensed about the comments and rightfully so.

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         Education Answerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Barefootfae,
         
         Reid was forced to say this because of the sequester or a lack of oxygen.  Maybe it was Bush who made him say this.

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            Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            It must be nice to be on a position where you can stand on the floor of the Senate and tell a bald-faced lie and either the press doesn't question you or you have to listen to sycophants take up for him.
            His statement was outrageous on several different levels.
            
            Nevada! Throw the bum out!

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   Barefootfaeposted 11 years ago

   Here is what is printed in Real Clear Politics:
   
   "The Marine Corps is not happy, according to NBC News reporter Jim Miklaszewski (once again by way of RealClearPolitics):
   
       Now I can tell you, Marine Corps officials this afternoon are taking a strong exception to what Harry Reid implied. Saying that this this exercise, for example, was planned well in advance, had nothing to do with the budget cuts. There were no corners cut, and if they couldn’t afford to have all the safety precautions into place, they wouldn’t do the exercise.
   
       And in fact, one Marine Corps official told us a short time ago that he considers this nothing but pure political posturing on the backs of these dead Marines."

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      Old Poolmanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Of course it was political posturing.  Yet another attempt to convince America how wrong we are in protesting higher taxes and runaway spending.  They are bent on showing us they are so much smarter and wiser than we little people they will never miss an opportunity to drive this point home.
      Harry Reid should be ashamed of himself for using this tragedy as an example, but Harry knows no shame.  And they just keep voting him back in office.

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         Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         What's sad.......just sit back and watch how many will support his statement here.

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            Old Poolmanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I believe they call this blind loyalty.  Will they ever open their eyes and take a good look at what they support?

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               Barefootfaeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               i don't look for it anytime soon. The level of indoctrination is so pervasive...........

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   Barefootfaeposted 11 years ago

   

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