Scientific Fraud on 9/11 - The Government Lied - Entire World Affected

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   lone77starposted 10 years ago

   Science is great, when it's used to tell the truth. Even a relative truth is better than a blatant lie.
   
   I just watched another excellent video by Jonathan H. Cole with experiments proving NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) lied in its 9/11 reports. They committed blatant scientific fraud.
   
   This 10-minute video is a must-see for anyone interested in the future. Why? Because American policy is based on 9/11, and the government lied! People continue to die because of 9/11. Liberty is dying because of 9/11. American financial irresponsibility is based partly on 9/11 (overspending at an accelerating pace -- a bubble that will pop with disastrous results for planet Earth).
   
   9/11 Experiments: The Arbitrator of Competing Hypotheses
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YRUso7Nf3s
   
   This isn't "conspiracy theory." The government did enough of that already, feeding us the OBL theory. This is simple, scientific fact.
   
   Why would government scientists commit scientific fraud? This might open the door to some conspiracy theories, but that doesn't help.
   
   A better question, now that we know the government is lying about 9/11, is what should we do about it?
   
   Get angry? Riot? Start a new government? Boycott? Try to fix it by entering politics? Bury our heads and forget about it?

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      Jane Bovaryposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Could have fooled me..

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         janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Isn't it hard to breath with your head buried under the sand?

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            Jane Bovaryposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Right, because *knowing* the government lied about 9/11, apparently on the strength of a ten minute video, is a perfectly reasonable conclusion to draw.

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               janesixposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Where did you come up with that nonsense?
               
               Go back to bad, you are already asleep.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      That video wasn't clear nor was the guy's hypothesis proven.
      There are too many variables that his experimentation couldn't prove anyway.

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      A Troubled Manposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      True, conspiracy theorists always claim their conspiracy theories are not conspiracy theories.
      
      It is very sad to see believers not only distort reality for what it is, but go well beyond the ridiculous and absurd to fallaciously and inexcusably distort science and that which they have no understanding.

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   janesixposted 10 years ago

   Of course they lied.
   
   That's what they are paid to do.

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   Zelkiiroposted 10 years ago

   This is my only response:
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvBGL9FgNKo&t=08m35s

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   innersmiffposted 10 years ago

   If you are all so sure it's nonsense, why not enlighten the rest of us as to exactly why you think this way? Analyse the argument, and rebut the points made. Not "but somebody would have talked" or "why would the government want to kill their own people?", irrelevant buzz-phrases that don't address the argument at hand.

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   American Viewposted 10 years ago

   The biggest part of the experiment that is wrong is they drop a separate object on top of another object from a distance. That is not how the towers collapsed. All the towers floors are connected, the top of the building was not lifted off and dropped onto the structure. The theory of Newton is not the type of force in play here, but it is more along the lines of inertia.
   
   By the way, the cue ball hitting the eight ball was cute but a joke, . Hitting the cue ball with the proper english can make the cue ball travel completely across the pool table, not come to a stop in a few inches as shown in the video. Striking the cue ball with different english evertime will yield a different result, the cue ball will come to rest in many different locations on the table. What lesson does this show us, that people can pick, choose, skew and spin data into any conclusion to attempt to further their agenda.

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   Will Apseposted 10 years ago

   I've been poking around in the conspiracy business. A lot of money to be made from gullible folk.
   
   Hagman and Hagman have a fine line of products in the 'Giants' and 'Mighty Men of Old' niche.
   
   I suppose it's never too late to cash in on the murder of couple of thousand people in New York...

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   psycheskinnerposted 10 years ago

   The guy who made that video has a pretty weak grasp of both physics and the experimental method.  For a good analysis get the Popular Mechanics special issue on 9/11.

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      lone77starposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Popular Mechanics? You've got to be joking. You have a pretty weak grasp of logic.
      
      http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/gopm/index.html

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   Zelkiiroposted 10 years ago

   Oh hey, I just thought of another response!
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzUybHO-EP8

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   lone77starposted 10 years ago

   More NIST fraud:
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeaeAqkwD2k

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      A Troubled Manposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      There are a multitude of websites that debunk the 911 truth movement.
      
      https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/

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         lone77starposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         And there are a multitude of websites that debunk the debunkers.
         
         Here's one video that knocks it out of the ballpark.
         
         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrjcXOJIWw0
         
         
         The funny thing about the debunkers is that they invariable give alternative theories, but never debunk anything. An alternate theory is only that -- a theory.
         
         Building 7 collapsed at perfect free fall acceleration for the first 8 floors. That's a fact admitted by NIST. But ignored by NIST is the fact that such perfect free fall means zero resistance. Steel beams NEVER offer zero resistance unless controlled demolition is involved.
         
         I wonder if you could ever debunk that. Simple physics.
         
         If a meteor lands on your head, it's going to slow down a tiny bit, because it has to perform the work of crushing your otherwise empty skull. Now, does some of the simple logic start to sink in?

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            Zelkiiroposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            A small group of determined extremists with over a decade of planning and practice managed to strike us on our own turf?
            
            IT MUST BE A GOVERNMENT COVER-UP THERE IS NO OTHER EXPLANATION

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            A Troubled Manposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            And, you're here to tell us about physics? The guy who tells us Jesus opened up a boulevard of gridlocked traffic just for YOU?
            
            
            
            Hilarious, every picture shows the beams falling faster than the debris cloud, which is falling faster than the building itself. Yes, simple physics.

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