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A.Villarasaposted 12 years ago
However Obama and his acolyltes-apologists in the mainstream media might wish for the subject of Benghazi to go away (his press secrtary, famously saying that it happened a long time ago.... really? 8 months is a long time ago?), it won't, for the simple reason that the American people are just so tired of lies on top of lies being heaped on them, like uncollected garbage down the street corner. As with uncollected garbage, the smell just gets stenchier by the day. And like a ticking bomb, it could finally explode tomorrow, when 4 whistleblowers get the chance to tell their narrative during a congressional hearing.

When the smoke clears, what would the American people finally see? An emperor without clothes?..... the devolution of a presidency?.. the unscrambling of the liberal-elitist mainstream media?... or life goes on and the death of 4 Americans in the Benghazi consulate was as meaningless as meaningless can be.?
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  Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Yep. Any other President and any other Secretary of State would've most likely already been politically handcuffed and taken away to face authority, and actually have to answer some questions directly instead of being handled with kid gloves like Hillary Clinton was. In the previous hearings, Rand Paul was tough on her; John McCain started to be, but then let her get by with her evasion tactics, and others praised her and wished her well in her run for President in 2016! Hero worship is alive and well even in our Congress/Senate. Unbelievable.
  Who they should be regarding as heroes are the whistleblowers. I hope America actually listens this time to what they have to say.
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  GNelsonposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  They must be selling a lot of blinders in DC. Iraq was a war started with a lie and kept off the books. It cost thousands of american lives and billions of tax dollars. These same congressmen let that go without a burb. Now they are farting all over themselves because they are afraid of a single female.
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  Lie Detectorposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  No, they are trying to find out why 4 American were killed.
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  GNelsonposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  If they wanted to know why 4 Americans were killed they would be asking more questions about what happened before the attack. Not after the attack. They are spending your tax dollars for their political advantage, wasting your dollars and their time. They could be helping America but they are helping themselves, as usual.
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  Lie Detectorposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I get it, you're using the Hillary Clinton method. What difference does it make?
  
  It makes a difference.
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  Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  SO we had the testimony and the Obama's approval went up a percentage point, that bomb sure was terrible
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  Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  They must've polled people who aren't even aware of what happened. Anyone who knows about the people who died in Benghazi and that the Administration essentially blamed American citizens for it, wouldn't support Obama unless they're just cold uncaring people already.
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  Lie Detectorposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Or democrats.
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  Mighty Momposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Well, technically, Americans ARE responsible for these deaths and all of the deaths attributed to "terrorists."
  If we weren't America, Islamic extremists wouldn't hate us for being Americans.
  Our very way of life, our values, incite hatred and violence.
  Just sayin'.
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  A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  That's very interesting.
  
  I wonder though if we were to use the term "Islamic" when referring to the extremists, perhaps we should then use the term "Christians" instead of Americans when referring exactly to the type of values that are inciting the hatred and violence.
  
  Just sayin'.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  What a crock of anti-Christian carp.
  
  It matters.
  There are FOUR DEAD AMERICANS that were murdered in Benghazi.
  It mattered at THAT point, it matters at this point, and it will matter always. Bah on Hillary Clinton's carpish bullying lying propoganda.
  There are MULTIPLE deaths and injuries from the Boston bombing which was perpetrated by Muslim terrorists.
  There are MANY cases of persecution, torture, and murders by Islamic radicals enacted upon Christians who go to some Muslim Nations to share their time, work, and witness for Christ, but do NOT try to impose American Law upon those Nations nor to bomb anyone.
  
  It's not right to compare the actions of Christians with the actions of Islamist terrorists, period.
  I'm not just sayin'.
  I'm sayin', period.
  
  And it's not even just American Christians who are abused and imprisoned and killed. It's citizens of those Muslim Nations too.
  
  http://www.christiannewstoday.com/Chris … _4850.html
  
  So it's unconscienable to even consider making Sharia Law valid in America.
  
  If missionaries are gonna keep going to other Nations and witness there, they may have to go through a lot of persecution even though they're not trying to make the political status shift. Still doesn't make it right to persecute them at all, but they do know the score and are willing to take the chance in order to tell people about the Lord.
  
  But for the Muslim ways and beliefs and religion and politics to invade the U.S. homeland is even more intolerable. It is not the fault of Christians if people hate Christians. It's the fault of the haters.
  Americans shouldn't have to fear attack on our own soil by anti-Christian Islamists.
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  A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Yes exactly, Christians are going there and inciting hatred and violence with their evangelism, just like they do everywhere else.
  
  But, not by anything you've offered thus far.
  
  It is staggeringly hilarious to see a Christian complain about a religion making roots in their country when they are sending evangelists over to their country to create religious roots.
  
  But, the Christian ways and beliefs and religion and politics invading their country is perfectly acceptable, yes?
  
  Yes, it is their fault.
  
  Neither should Muslims, then. See how that works?
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  Lie Detectorposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, very insightful, they hate us for existing? Doesn't really matter what we do I guess they are going to hate us, right? Then we should just calm down and wait for them to saw our heads off.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, sure. Liberals seem to think they won't be included as targets by the Muslim radicals.
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  Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Actually they found no such thing, they did note there should have been more protection but that does not make someone responsible.
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JaxsonRaineposted 12 years ago
We'll see what happens when the survivors testify. They've been allegedly threatened by the State department and the CIA. General Ham said that the removal of the ambassador's security team was unnecessary. Multiple operatives have spoken out saying they could have been there within hours, and one team was boarding and was told not to go...

It's a mess, I just hope it doesn't get stalled like Fast and Furious through another 'executive privilege' move from Obama.
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  A.Villarasaposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  @Jaxson:
  If the metaphorical ticking bomb I mentioned in my OP do explode tomorrow and multiple smaller bombs get ignited, then I suppose one good thing could come out of it....Chris Matthews "legs" would be so severely lacerated, that it had to be amputated... thus the "tingling" would finally go away.
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  junkoposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  The American people cared about Benghazi and all the conservative's ideas over the last four plus years of why they think the President is an emperor. They really want the economy to improve through job creation. I don't think Benghazi is as important to the people as it is to those who don't want jobs and an improved economy to make Obama look Presidential.
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  A.Villarasaposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  @junko:
  
  Sorry, but to say or infer that folks (conservatives in your parlance) don't want jobs and an improved economy just to make Obama look like he does not know what he is doing, is pure simple nonsense.... an idea borne out of liberal pertinacity.
  
  Margaret Thatcher succinctly summarized liberal economic ideology with this statement:" Liberals don't care if the poor remains poor; they just care that the rich don't get richer." Which I think neatly explains why Obama is encouraging people to be on food stamps, and to be on welfare, and to continue receiving unemplyement benefits way beyond what is practicable... so they would not have any incentives to improve their lot on their own effort , because they are forever on governmental dough. Which I think also neatly explains why Obama wants to tax the rich more and more and more, so he could spend those tax dollars to perpetutae dependency on government via food stamps and welfare and unemployment benefits.
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  junkoposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  What you say you believe is just what the far right conservatives want the people to believe. The people is on the government dough because because the rich is investing offshore and the American jobs keep millions of China's people off their government.dough. "Made in America" ended before Obama became President. Margaret Thatcher is not an American. Austerity didn't work in Europe and it is destroying the American job market just to make Obama fail. American economist know through experience that you don't choose austerity during a depression, you spend to stimulate the economy. The same common sense solution applies during an economy recession. The fact is the Presidency and the Federal Government and the 47%ers are under attack by the far right. The blind can see what has be going on since the first openly black man was elected and reelected President.
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  Lie Detectorposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Put aside the economy and focus on what this thread is about. Obama,H. Clinton and more told us that the attack on the embassy was our own fault because of our freedom of speech. A videotape was responsible for the deaths of four Americans, we knew better but they thought they could slip this lie right on by.
  
  We are being led by liars and worse..incompetents!
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  Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Two other embassies were attacked by people who were angry over that video, coming to the conclusion that it was probably responsible for the third attack on an embassy that week too was not dishonest, illogical or incompetent.
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  Lie Detectorposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I think the truth will tell us more than your reliance on the Obama administrations continued lies.
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  Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Sounds good, I hope the hearings will bring everything out.
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  Lie Detectorposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I doubt you want that.
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  Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Oh I really do, it's been pretty sad how conservatives have been attempting to politicize deaths and making wild accusations about the whole affair, it will be good to see the truth.
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  Lie Detectorposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  The truth has been coming out little by little. Did those other two embassies come under mortar fire or any type of an attack?
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  Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Not mortar fire but yes they were attacked and several people were killed by the ambassadorial security. Dozens of people if I remember correctly.
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  Lie Detectorposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Sounds like coordinated attacks to me.
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  Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  in different countries over different causes by different groups?
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  JaxsonRaineposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Except for the niggling little fact that they knew it was a planned terrorist attack. They edited their talking points before coming out with that, but that's already come to light. They knew, the ambassador warned them, Libyan government warned them.
  
  If you look into Benghazi, you'll have to hold your nose for the stench.
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  junkoposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  C'mon Lie Detect, why should I put aside the economy and focus on what the tread is about if I feel that Hilary was right in questioning the politics of Benghazi. We can't(shouldn't) spend time and money Trying to prove, what the President knew and when he knew it about everything. I'll sit down in shut up since free speech is not allowed in some treads. I'm sorry if I messed up your Tea Party. P.S. This isn't the first time we were lied to about the Middle. East
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  Lie Detectorposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Really don't like it when its your guy being investigated do you? We were lied to about the Middle East by Bill Clinton, Al Gore and a whole slew of democrats.
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  junkoposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I'm trying to keep my seat Lie Detecter, my guy promised not to investigate your guy's lies because it would waste time and money, but the people know the truth. All lies die when the truth is told, problem is there is one truth and endless lies.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You're so right.
  It was the "blame America" game again, especially blaming conservatives and Christians and anyone else who doesn't cater to Islam.
  The freedom of the average American is being systematically taken away by our own leaders, all because of their Leftist activist agenda. It's crazy stuff. Never thought I'd ever see this kinda carp happen in America.
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  A.Villarasaposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  @junko:
  
  To continue spending, till kingdom come, while drowning in debt (all $16 trillion dollars of it, and counting) is not only unconscionable and incomprehensible but totally irrational, counterintutive and counterproductive...in other words, a disaster in the making, no matter what Obama and his army of economists say.
  
  Margaret Thatcher may not be an American, but when she became Prime Minister of England, she faced a British economy in tatters and in shambles, after decade long imposition of Laborite (i.e. liberal) economic nostrums. She turned around that economy, and Britain, when she left the political scene, had a much more sustainable and vibrant economy than when she found it. England continues to be one of the shining economic entities in the whole European theater that is now littered with the detritus of liberal-leftist economic policies...Greece, Spain, to name a few.
  
  Obama, the first "openly black" presdident? I did not know that he was at some point in his life trying to hide his "blackness" from a very uncomprehending and antagonistic world.
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  Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You mean half a trillion in deficit reduction under Obama? Really is spending until kingdom come
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  A.Villarasaposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  @Josak:
  You meant another 4 trillion dollars in debt, by the time his second term ends? That my friend is spending until kingdom come. BTW , where did you get the half-a-trillion deficit reduction figure? You might want to check your figures with the CBO.
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  Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Yup, it takes time to reduce all that spending Bush created, we left you the government pretty much breaking even on spending, we got back a 1.4 trillion dollar deficit now we are reducing it again for you, hardly our fault you guys can't handle an economy.
  
  2009 which was the last Bush Budget was a 1.413 Trillion deficit year. (that's what I call conservative fiscal responsibility )
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Unite … ral_budget
  
  This years budget is a 901 Billion deficit year.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Unite … ral_budget
  
  Half trillion dollar difference there.
  
  Btw: if you don't like wikipedia just follow it's listed sources.
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  JaxsonRaineposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Josak, I've corrected you on this before. The total spending for 2009 wasn't just Bush's budget, it included mid-year changes made by Congress under Obama... remember that whole recovery act thing?
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  JaxsonRaineposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Half a trillion reduction from his own previous deficit... which is still more than DOUBLE what Obama called 'immoral'.
  
  He's a hypocrite, just like most Americans.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, the "openly black" phrase must've been a play on words; a ploy to remind us about liberal activism. As though we could ever forget something that's constantly shoved in our faces.
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  junkoposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  The Benghazi investigation turned out to be another witch hunt and another waste of time in money. Nothing new was discovered. The Sequester should be investigated and the denial of tax revenue and or a presidential credit card used by the previous President after he stopped collecting tax revenue to support Capitalism should be investigated. The Sequester will be a death sentence for at least one million American and the suffering of millions more Americans. The gun death of four Americans in a foreign city should not be more important than the gun death of thousands of Americans yearly in American cities. It seems that Far Right Conservative don’t believe that all men are created equal, they believe just Capitalist are equal and have equal rights.
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JaxsonRaineposted 12 years ago
Off the record meeting at the WH with the media. Reported that more whistle-blowers are going to come forward, some from the CIA.

Sadly, I can't even be bothered to respond to the people in these threads who just pop in, because when I do they just ignore everything I post anyway.
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  Lie Detectorposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Did you read this
  
  "So, was this hearing and the factually void testimony of three witnesses, cast as "whistleblowers" in the published libretto, just another example of political theater staged by one or the other party to resemble transparency?"
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  JaxsonRaineposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, a perfect example of complete illogic(that's my word for it ).
  
  A shining example of cramming multiple fallacies into a statement/question to try to force the desired answer out of people.
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  Lie Detectorposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Its almost as if they are going to be rewarded or something.
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Lie Detectorposted 12 years ago
Here is some proof of actual factually void material.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 … eferences/
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JaxsonRaineposted 12 years ago
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movingoutposted 12 years ago
We have more important issues to deal with in this Country. This political posturing for 2016 is getting old!
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