It's official, with no warrant, no demand letters, nothing, the government has been stealing audio, video, photographs, e-mails, documents and connection logs from 9 leading US internet companies... for the last 6 years.
Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, Apple
Have an email with one of them? Or, have you emailed someone with an account with one of them?
Oops.... you might want to recheck your sources.
Apparently the "leak" was an inaccurate Power Point presentation.
Google has this statement saying "It ain't so"
https://plus.google.com/u/0/10941225723 … LKWUPfJSXK
Matt Cutts, also from Google links this CNet report that further appears to debunk the claims:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57588 … companies/
So now it appears to be a choice of who to believe - The Government... or Google
I vote Google.
But note, I have not researched this and am taking Google's folks word for it.
OMG. Now the Government is going to know ALL ABOUT my devilled eggs. I'm F*rked!
See, that's not the point. So many people discount this violation of privacy by saying they have nothing to hide. I have nothing to hide too, but that doesn't mean I want the government listening to me and watching what I do. That's creepy.
It saddens me that people simply don't care. They don't care about liberty. They don't care about privacy. They don't care about rights. They don't care about the Constitution. They don't care about unlimited government.
You think this email and phone stuff is messed up? think about what you DON'T know that's going on. That's a lot scarier in my opinion.
Oh they care, don't you remember them going nuts when Bush was in charge? Now that Obama has done the exact same thing and put in overdrive its ok.
Not one person I know believes that.
What I find funny is people like Rand Paul acting all shocked and say they didn't know about it, yet voted to renew it.
Well, now you know another. It was wrong for Bush to do it, but it's okay for Obama?
Man, this gets old. No, it is NOT okay for Obama to do it, either. It's mind-boggling for us who were warning people about it years ago to see the sudden outrage when it's Obama's turn to utilize the policies put in place during the Cheney/Bush era. Where were you then?
Oh, let me guess, you didn't like it then, either.
I was redpilled by mass-murdering Janet Reno! It was at this time that I realized that the Federal government would kill an individual/s and not be punished for it. It has been a steady decline since then!
You know what gets old?
The continuous "Bush did it"
Obama is worse than Bush, in every way.
Actually, what is happening here is some of you are saying we (we being liberals, I assume) don't care because Obama is doing it and we (those of us who did care when it first happened and still care now) are saying why didn't you care when Bush did it? It's hard to maintain outrage for 7 years, you know.
Remember, this whole topic came up because people are outraged that it is happening under Obama's watch. Pointing out that it was instituted under Bush's watch, with many liberals vocally opposing it at the time, is a perfectly rational and reasonable response.
I suppose you want us to thank conservatives for finally caring?
Did you not read my post where I said I was against it then too?
You see, I supported/support Bush in many different ways, but I am not like the typical Obot who has to support Obama no matter what. I did and do say when I disagree with George Bush.
Uh huh. I'll take you at your word.
I've never met an Obot. Who would that be again?
I get it. You read my post but want to question my integrity. I don't compromise my integrity to make a point. It's not worth it; I'm not some fickle person whose views fluctuate from day to day. I have always been opposed to our government spying on American citizens. You can see some of my posts on drones and other related topics. By the way, I liked George Bush, but that doesn't mean that I do/did support all of his policies. I can't say that I fully support any politician's policies.
An Obot is a person who automatically believes anything Obama says. He/she must defend everything he says, does, or thinks, regardless of whether or not they believe he is right. Yes, there are people who do this in both parties. I did not coin the phrase.
You're right. I don't know you so I should assume you are accurately describing you beliefs. I apologize.
But, in my defense, I live in the reddest part of a red state and hardly anyone here will admit to voting for George W. Bush when I'm quite certain he won my county by over 80% of the vote. Can you understand my skepticism? And now, these same people are outraged over the NSA having access to phone data.
Thanks. Yes, I can understand it.
For the record, I liked George Bush. I voted for him, and I'd do it again. I did not support the Patriot Act, bailouts, the Bush immigration plan, and excessive spending, to name a few policies. I supported our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I supported tax cuts. I supported many of Bush's policies. I feel he was/is a good man, and I have not abandoned his defense. I have a hub that openly criticizes Obama and supports Bush. I, too, despise it when people who supported him then don't do so now. The difference here is that I didn't support some of his policies then, and I do not support them now. I guess he was a bit too moderate for my taste.
Thanks for that ~$10 trillion in debt for little to no payoff. We were probably just gonna waste it on petty things like healthcare and infrastructure, anyway.
Yeah, instead we protected people. What were we thinking? I guess you think it's all right to allow an attack on American soil? There's nothing wrong with that? What would you have done, apologize?
Our debt was 5.6 trillion when Bush became president. When he left office, it was 10.7 trillion. How did you come up with 10 trillion? By the way, even President Obama doesn't claim that the wars cost 10 trillion. I guess if you're going to be wrong, you should at least be consistent with your beloved leader, Obama.
"(Reuters) - When President Barack Obama cited cost as a reason to bring troops home from Afghanistan, he referred to a $1 trillion price tag for America's wars."
"The final bill will run at least $3.7 trillion and could reach as high as $4.4 trillion, according to the research project "Costs of War" by Brown University's Watson Institute for International Studies."
"In the 10 years since U.S. troops went into Afghanistan to root out the al Qaeda leaders behind the September 11, 2001, attacks, spending on the conflicts totaled $2.3 trillion to $2.7 trillion."
Brown University versus Zelkiiro? I'll stick with Brown University or even President Obama.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/ … 5320110629
It's not that people don't care. It's that people know that it's beyond their reach to change.
The only way it will change is by either a miraculous 180 from everyone involved or violently disemboweling everyone involved. And the mountains of bodyguards make the latter unlikely.
Also, oh no now the government can see the D&D characters I mailed to my friend so that he could print them out! The horror!
As far as we know (today) Hub Pages is safe, though.
Don't know what emoticon to put here.
Lindsey Graham is "glad" about something -- anything -- being done by this administration?
Well smack my a$$ and call me Sally!
Technological simulation of omniscience and omnipresence is prerequisite to "most high" status. So far so good. Once mastered, a form of omnipotence can be simulated as well. All feeble compared to the real deal, but you do what you can.
If the government is reading my e-mails they're going to be bored stiff. "All this guy does is talk about Black Sabbath with his dorky friends!"
what should we do?
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