Do you think Oblama's economic plans are going to save us?
He's the Plesident.
It is extremely serious. I am beginning to think there is not enough money to fix it.
It can hardly be blamed on Oblama, but he does seem to be following the standard approach, which I think is a mistake.
Change, the man promised, and we are getting more of the same.I think it is fairly obvious when partisanship is naught but a knee-jerk reaction fulfilling whatever need the individual will make of it. This is exactly my point when discussing the absolutely necessary choice of Obama in the the election.
That went way beyond partisanship if you actually did any serious reading.
Huh. Harvard & Cornell. Further proving my theory right about you, lol! (I have theories! It is like fun for me,
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Just want to point out how dumb this statement is. There are other codes and rules that were set forth previous to your much glorified constitution--sometimes on stone tablets (sometimes what we liberals call human rights)--that may or should have reference in regards to the Gitmo issue and repercussions of these detainees handling.
That's it... Just watching the fireworks remotely today....
Hope Ralph comes back to rip something up,
Horribly myopic as usual,
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But of course, abortion rights should be granted maybe down to the municipality level!!! That makes lotsa sense.
Always entertaining...Translation: I did not exactly get what that meant, therefore I will make a back-handed personal attack, even though I am fond of accusing others of personal attacks myself when it justifies my argument. I don't truly realize how hilarious I sometimes am.
*footnote-- As stated previously, responder "is just watching remotely," but if she felt like it, could rip your 'logic' on this point this side of heaven if she felt like typing that much. Alas, she does not, and has other work to do. Therefore, she hopes Ralph comes back and eats you for dinner,
1. The original intent of the US constitution could arguably be defined as encompassing a meaning related to Natural Law (which can be found in many human codes of ethics, going as far back as the Code of Hammurabi) which is different from Divine Law or Constant Law. If there is any original intent in the constitution, it is to be found in ethical realism. Without an understanding of what inalienable rights are and what individuality is as opposed to whatever, we lose a sense of distinction and law, life, and love all fall into a senseless ball of mixed 'whatever you want freedom', which is categorically a childish understanding of "liberty.”
The wannabe masters of the universe that cry out 'original intent' before smashing the constitution (along with our rights) to bits, are engaging in a practice known as doublespeak, which is very closely aligned with postmodernism. The agenda is deceit--their practice, dishonesty--their goal, intellectual slavery. People are so much better for business when we are like manageable cattle.
(I.E, postmodernism is the systematic destruction of semantics, of which the loss of meaning is analogous to the confusion of tongues.)
2. But to be pragmatic about what we are dealing with—the constitution is hundreds of years old and has altered thanks mainly to legislatures. It seems correct to say that the current form of the Constitution is a law brought about by legislatures, and that there is no one intention behind this law. In other words, times have changed--and have changed the constitution.
The trick of course, is in a vision not so myopic and not so farsighted that one sees both the forest and can distinguish the trees as far as interpretation. Also, not to have an agenda when you do attempt an interpretation.
And I do not want to hear anything more about New York Times Op Eds, thank you....Ahhh ... and I was SO afriad you two didn't love each other any more
He should think about <trying> to make a rebuttal to this. This is the level he should be at. Probably will be toooooo embarrassed now, though, lol...
And thank you, Taveuni!
Brilliant, insightful stuff in this, thought it worth repeating in full, thank you.
Gee, I wonder.
I too laugh at the parrying between left and right and the semantics surrounding the Constitution. Each twists it as far as they can to suit their own ideologies. But of the two choices, I will take domestic pork over imperialist fear any day.
The so called "terrorist threat" is just another tool to keep people in fear about the wrong things, to keep their eye off the ball of what really matters in the lives of most people. The term AlQaida was never used by BinLaden in any of his communications with the west until after the western media started using it. They then used it because it worked to their purposes, and the right has played right into their hands, but also into their own deceptive intentions. I too think Bin Laden is dead, likely has been for years.
"An imbalance between the rich and poor is the oldest and most fatal ailment of all republics."- Plutarch
Seems we have to learn this lesson over and over again.
For people, and I think this counts most I run across in online debates about the economy, who seem terrified of spending "printed money" to try and make a difference for the vast majority of American people, I recommend this video. I actually recommend the whole "Crash Course", though it takes some time and I don' t necessarily agree with all of it. But what you can't really dispute, and that most don't get I think, is that money in our system is simply loaned into existence and until we change our entire, unsustainable economic and financial model based on levereged, exponential economic growth, proponents of this system will always try and mask the spectre of the inherent but equal problem of catastrophic decline. This is where we absolutely need government in place to reign in this beast.So, I watched up to chptr 14 of the Crash Course...and will have to do the rest later.
Oh, God help us...the assumptions the majority of people have made about the future. I like what I see in this video series so far.
and i have to admit that what i want to try to do is put into words my whole "abundant consciousness" concepts for life...but I am not there yet. but is is interesting the "intuitive" way I have lived and created my life...no judgments on my self !
More later
Thanks, Nick... Still horribly myopic (you are a conservative) for my taste, but not unpleasantly so. Just brittle and (somewhat, read thorough) academic--similar to those academic literary critics who look for stains and cracks in an original manuscript and how the author (or the Founding Fathers, in capital letters) tied their shoes in order to look for original intent or meaning in a document.
And what if the Constitution were written as a freestyle poem, what then? What if that was uncongenial to your pet theories? Would you have to interpret the Constitution with 'your ideas' of what a freestyle poem indeed is? ....You know I have to dis you.
I don't think you realize how much we actually agree, because you are not familiar with postmodernism as a theory or its many guises...which in this case regarding language states that there may be many theories, all of leveling degrees (the systematic breakdown of language and understanding), which would present a problem, yes. But that is OK, because on many of my sources, the law professors discussing these constitutional issues didn't know either.
lol... So perhaps with your "basic con law" lessons learned, you may be a lawyer rather than a Rush Limbaugh substitute after all.
- A truce is good. We do agree on some matters.
But there is a fine line between love, hate and fear. Not that I am trying to tell you what you should say, but much of what you say seems to stem from fear. Or at least that is how it comes across to me. And others judging from the reactions you get. Not so much what you say, but how you say it. I mean - I would think the 5th amendment applies to everyone. And who labels anyone a "terrorist"? The same government you seem to mistrust. Would you take their word for it that XZY is a terrorist? But not that they can be trusted to spend your money?
Fear is the great destroyer of freedoms and rights.I sense apprehension, and that is understandable. If it were a simple case of liberal v conservative, or whatever, we would throw a few verbal bombs at each other and have a laugh along the way. I have no problem with 'old-fashioned' conservatives, but they are a dying breed, as are 'old-school' liberals. I am pretty sure that Nick laments the dumbing down of the media and education as much as the rest of us - it is difficult to find reasoned debate nowadays. People are not taught how to think for themselves any more, which is the real danger.
This is much more serious, a breakdown of the complete system. Whatever our political persuasion or nationality, people have stolen from us and appear to be getting away with it. The people can forgive a small amount of corruption and 'creative accounting' from the elite, but the scale of this theft is yet to unfold. Reagan and Thatcher started this 'greed is good' culture, but the Democrats and Labour continued the trend, and are no better.
He should forget about becoming a lawyer - I am currently designing some 'Nick for President' stickers. The 2012 campaign starts here.
You heard it here first!Not my call, but you should be able to persuade him! If I get a job as the Ouzo import quality controller, that will do me nicely.
Nick - You must immediately write a Hub with your election aims and manifesto. This could be the start of the road for the true 'Peoples President.'
Hooray for the President-Elect!
So! Ralph had Nick for breakfast instead! Well, I knew there would be a meal.
They say Rove and Limbaugh are both nasty practitioners of Republican postmodernism--Nick, too! And he says he doesn't like postmodern art,.
Yep, saw it on the Independent Film Channel a week or so ago. Thought it might be Coen brothers, but it turns out it is this South African director, I believe. Impressed, though.
Oh, no, Knol! I hope that wasn't some intimation of something--you and your one liners! FYI, in case it is-- I came up with the previous thoughts on the constitution by reading through a bunch of law blogs and adapting/paraphrasing what I found rang true to the 'argument' (if you can call it that--because the lack of logic on one side is obvious) + my own thoughts on postmodernism. Not hard. You do the same thing writing any persuasive paper...
Though some prefer listening to hate radio, lol
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