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  1. gmwilliams profile image83
    gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago

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    What would YOU want to say to President Obama at this moment regarding his social policies?  What would YOU want to say about his socioeconomic policies?  Say whatever you feel...........

    1. Disappearinghead profile image85
      Disappearingheadposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      What new revelation do you think is going to come from this? This is just a set up for the same old arguments.

      The problem with your country's financial woes do not lie with Obama but are the result of decades of financial mismanagement; a lassez fair attitude to corporations and their political lobbying. Your national debt is legendary and is the result living beyond your means for decades.

      You allow corporations to bully/bribe government into policies that favour shareholders and not the people or the nation. For example your lax regulations regarding food manufacture compared to Europe means you eat shit resulting in a chronic obesity problem; your people get fatter to feed the increasingly fat corporate bank accounts. That it is enshrined into law that companies must maximise returns for shareholders can only mean to produce an imbalance of wealth forever upwards to those of higher socio economic status.

      So where has your money gone? Into the pockets of fat corporations. It sits in bank accounts doing nothing, doing no work, being put to no good use, just accumulating more interest for them. Your successive governments have given your wealth away and placed the burden of shortage on the common man. You need a mass redistribution of this redundant wealth back to government to pay the debt and fix the holes in your country.

      As for obamacare, I cannot comment, but access to free healthcare for all at the point of need paid for by the state is a mark of a civilised society.

      1. Zelkiiro profile image85
        Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        How dare you question our super-rich overlords, you dirty Communist Socialist Fascist devil-worshipper?! HOW DARE YOU?!?

        1. Disappearinghead profile image85
          Disappearingheadposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          lol

        2. cjbryant27 profile image59
          cjbryant27posted 3 years ago in reply to this

          HA!

  2. John Holden profile image60
    John Holdenposted 3 years ago

    Trouble is that the OP only wants to hear voices that agree with her!

  3. PrettyPanther profile image84
    PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago

    I would say "Thank you for trying."

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    1. gmwilliams profile image83
      gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      President Obama is becoming a disaster in many areas, especially regarding Obama"care".  This "health" plan is going to RUIN America.  Anyone who applauds such a "health" plan is totally, totally misguided, naive, and clueless.   Sadly, President Obama is IN over his head!

      1. PrettyPanther profile image84
        PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Hmmm, you stated no one could read the health care bill, and you were wrong.  I'm wondering who is clueless....

        1. gmwilliams profile image83
          gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          You are prevaricating,NEVER said that at all!    Obama"care" will bankrupt America and decrease the quality of care.   Really, why are YOU applauding this monstrosity. Obamacare is bad for America!  American health care is FINE the way IT IS.  Why are some people applauding this?   Obamacare is going to sink America socioeconomically and health wise. I do not want the government into my health care.  I was not raised to be a socialist, hmmmm.......

          1. PrettyPanther profile image84
            PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Yes you did, and I would appreciate your taking back the accusation that I am lying.

            "Kathryn and Moneyfairy, of course, NONE of us saw the bill."

            http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/117567? … st2478453?

            1. gmwilliams profile image83
              gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              I apologize Pretty Panther.  I have read about Obamacare extensively in news reports, books, and magazines. It has more detriments than benefits overall.  In the majority of cases, each time government implements something, the quality decreases.

              1. PrettyPanther profile image84
                PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                So, honest answer, why did you say no one saw the bill?  All bills are available online for public review and comment. 

                I don't have a problem with legitimate gripes about the ACA, but I do have a problem with spreading misinformation or, should I say, PREVARICATING.

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                  mbuggiehposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  The ACA will help many people. I have friends who are self-employed and who have families and the ACA will help them greatly.

                  1. PrettyPanther profile image84
                    PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    I work with a young woman who does not have health insurance.  She has two young kids who get free health care through the state.  She went on the exchange and discovered she could buy health insurance for $57/month.  She is ecstatic.  She makes about $10/hour.

                  2. Superkev profile image84
                    Superkevposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    It's sure not helping this gentleman and thousands of others as well: http://gopthedailydose.com/2013/10/06/v … gulations/

                2. Kathryn L Hill profile image89
                  Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  The truth is that every health care service rendered will be charged at increasingly higher rates as time goes on.  I predict that the barter system will come into full swing in the end. I do not agree that those who cannot afford and/or do not want health care insurance will be taxed/fined so that Others can have it.

                  1. gmwilliams profile image83
                    gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    +1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000-it is only going to get WORSE, not BETTER with Obama"care".  You are correct regarding your premise, Kathryn!  YOU and I see this and others simply refuse to acknowledge this!  Simply amazing to say the least!

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    mbuggiehposted 3 years ago

    I would say "thank you" to President Obama for is humanity and his understanding that our founding principles---based in the social contract of The Enlightenment, require that we "promote the general welfare". There is no socialism in the Affordable Care Act. There is humanism.

    1. gmwilliams profile image83
      gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      While I agree with some of President Obama's policies, I believe that health care should be a personal thng.  Each person is responsible for his/her health care needs.  The government should not have to step in.   Each tub sits on its own bottom.  These social programs are the reason why America is in the morass she is in currently i.e. the welfare system cames to mind.   I am for LESS government into our affairs!

      1. John Holden profile image60
        John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Te welfare system that you so hate is a direct result of the capitalism that you so love.

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          Education Answerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          There's no welfare in socialism?  Nope.

          1. gmwilliams profile image83
            gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            THEY CHOOSE to KNOW NOT.   They prefer to going along with THE GREAT DELUSION.
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            1. John Holden profile image60
              John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              But it is you who goes along with the great delusion, the delusion that capitalism is wonderful and will take care of everybody.  The delusion that capitalism wants everybody to work and have plenty.
              YOU CHOOSE NOT TO KNOW.

              1. gmwilliams profile image83
                gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Capitiali$m is good and is growth.  It is an equal playing ground.  If you are capable/smart, you will succeed.  If you are NOT, you fail. Simple, not BS! If you FAIL, accept your consequences and take your medicine.
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                1. John Holden profile image60
                  John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  And for millions failure means death by starvation purely because some people have no economic worth.

                  It is not and has never been an equal playing ground and plenty of capable and smart people get left by the wayside while many pretty ineffectual people exploit to their hearts content.

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                    mbuggiehposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                    And the GOOD news is that in the US and in much of the developed world unregulated capitalism (that perversion of Adam Smith that wallows in some dog-eat-dog pornography of wealth accumulation) has NOT existed since Theodore Roosevelt was president during the first decade of the 20th century.

                    The great wealth of the post-World War II "American Century" was accumulated in a mixed economy; an economy of regulated capitalism.

                    The fact is the recent (post-2000) experiments in unregulated capitalism have proven to be disastrous in terms of wealth creation. Banks and corporations going bust; privately held capital losing much of its value; unemployment, etc.

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                  mbuggiehposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  It is unfortunate that Adam Smith's sense of capitalism---as a moral system of wealth creation, has been discarded by some for a late 19th/20th century morally bankrupt perversion of capitalism that rests of attachment to robber barons.

                  Do you really believe that success in the US is simply a marker of whether one is capable and smart or not? Really? There are no other factors?  None?

          2. John Holden profile image60
            John Holdenposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            For the sick and unable to work, yes there is welfare but for those who don't work, no, because with socialism there would be no need for people not to work.

  5. cjbryant27 profile image59
    cjbryant27posted 3 years ago

    Disappearinghead> I would say, "Thank you for your service to the nation. Unfortunately, we have to downsize and thereby your position will no longer be needed. However, if you would like to remain with our country we can offer you a position in the Obamacare customer service department where you will be taking up to 1.4 million calls a day. Of course, there will be a sizeable cut in pay...."

    1. cjbryant27 profile image59
      cjbryant27posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      OOPs..I meant gmwilliams..is my rookiness showing?

      1. gmwilliams profile image83
        gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        You're ON TARGET.   Obama"care" will be dire for America in more ways than one.  Smart people are seeing the fallacy in this "health" care.

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    alexsaez1983posted 3 years ago

    "Obamacare is going to sink America socioeconomically and health wise. I do not want the government into my health care.  I was not raised to be a socialist, hmmmm......."

    Is that so, OP? Well, you'll be interested to know that as far as healthcare goes, the U.S. ranks 37th in the world in terms of healthcare quality. You've even been beaten by Cosa Rica at #36, according to the World Health Organization.

    And as for your view that everyone is responsible for their own healthcare, what about those who aren't given health insurance through their work?

    You weren't raise to be a socialist? Good for you. It's nice to see your political opinions were dictated to you, and you're spouting the same mindless rhetoric as the GOP.

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    alexsaez1983posted 3 years ago

    gmwilliams, I'm yet to hear you admit you were wrong about American healthcare being the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    1. gmwilliams profile image83
      gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      NEVER!

  8. aware profile image72
    awareposted 3 years ago

    ty for your service

  9. Superkev profile image84
    Superkevposted 3 years ago

    I would say: "You small, petulant, insignificant little man. You are not fit to hold the office you currently occupy and never were. You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a trial lawyer than be seen with you. You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon. May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs. You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus."

    Or something like that smile

  10. Davis Kiavwa profile image60
    Davis Kiavwaposted 3 years ago

    I, like   President  Obama   his  social  Policies  it  is  good.

    1. Superkev profile image84
      Superkevposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Says the person who in no way is effected by Obama's policies. Just sticking up for your countryman are you?

  11. Davis Kiavwa profile image60
    Davis Kiavwaposted 3 years ago

    He   his    a  President    of  his  own  words.

  12. Kathryn L Hill profile image89
    Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

    Any way it is too late. Why are we talking about something we could have prevented years ago?

 
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