Sometimes Libertarians are just right

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   Sooner28posted 11 years ago

   'Right-wing and left-wing military dictatorships are readily convertible; for each of them build up the collectivist institutions of statist rule, of big government domination of the economy and of society, of militarist and police repression of their subjects."  Murray Rothbard.
   
   This just seems true to me, and I fear the United States is slowly turning into a plutocracy, which will use the "collectivist institutions of statist rule" to consolidate their power.

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      Dr Billy Kiddposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      My fear is that the American people will become totally addicted to being entertained that they won't notice the tyranny as it sets it. You know, how many hundreds of people do you see playing a game on their smart phone rather than doing something constructive? And now it starts with three-year-olds .... just hand them a cell phone and watch them tune out reality.

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         Credence2posted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Dr. Billy, I am with you on your assessment, incrementalism will find us all under greater and greater control of the money changers, whether it comes from within Government or the corporate power structure. It starts and continues with one 'gee whiz' gadget at a time. At best, it creates a distraction, at the worse, it may well be a plot to control people so as they may be more easily herded like cattle. How many kids can actually do long division, these days? The nefarious power has an interest in short circuiting ones ability to use critical thinking and reasoning, replacing it with instant gratification and easy answers. There is such a thing as 'slavery' without all the chains and shackles. Unfortunately, many fail to realize that they are a party to their own degradation. What kind of parents would give a young child such a thing as a cell phone, hooked into the world, without any supervision?

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            John Holdenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Parents who were already unshackled and unchained slaves.

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      gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It's starting already.  His name is Obama and he is slowly transferring America into a socialist/Marxist country where the government is becoming bigger and more intrusive.  Our impending health insurance is an example of the government becoming more totalitarian in nature.  Obama was inculcated in the socialist/Marxist/ communist ideology from his parents and maternal grandparents. 
      
      Obama is anti-American, saying that the Constitution is flawed and its ideology and premise reflects the colonial mentality and it is irrelevant for these postmodern times.  He believes in equal income distribution.  He has an animus against the successful while enabling the less successful, creating a welfare consciousness.  NEED I say more, I don't think so!  Smart people are now realizing this while others in their delusion believe that Obama is a savior and a messiah!

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         Zelkiiroposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         You do realize Socialism and Communism contradict each other, right?
         
         You do also realize that modern Communism has nothing to do with Marx's principles, right?
         
         ...You do know you sound like you're talking out of your ass, right?

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            tirelesstravelerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Correct me if I am wrong, but both have to do with removing God from society and telling  people what they can or cannot do.

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               John Holdenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               You are wrong.

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                  tirelesstravelerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Socialism and capitalism are similar in that they are both isms.  Capitalism is when businesses provide what you want and how you want it. The more you want something the more you will pay for it.  Anything that is easy to acquire will be less expensive.
                  Capitalism doesn't work at its best when there is large debt and government involvement.  The reason for this is the cost is no longer determined by the wants of the consumer.  Businesses must set the price  to include taxes, and cost overhead. There hasn't been anything close to pure capitalism since the government decided efficient car manufactures and steel makers were being mean to the little guy. It didn't make any difference that the little guy got a boat load of money to turn over his small business to the likes of Ford and Carnegie    When the government decided to made up its mind to be the conscience of the business by regulating businesses and enforcing income taxes true capitalism as on its way out.
                  How is that similar to socialism, when the system is consolidated under one central government  to make everyone receive fair treatment.  Consumer wants and desires are never considered in Socialism and Capitalism can't live without consumer wanting what it has to offer.

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            Silverspeederposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I thought socialism, communism and Marxism were all based on the empowerment of the worker?
            
            Non of them can work on their own unless the whole world becomes one of the ideologies and that is never going to happen.

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               John Holdenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               It is possible for socialism to work alongside capitalism, but unlikely that capitalism would allow that to happen.

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                  John Holdenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Of course that is BS. On consideration there have been plenty of mixed economies where capitalism and socialism have worked side by side successfully.

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                  Silverspeederposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  But capitalism does allow it to happen in a lot of countries.
                  Many capitalist countries have social programs that have their roots in socialism, communism or Marxism.

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                     John Holdenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     Yes, see my follow up post.

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         Sooner28posted 11 years agoin reply to this

         No he's not...

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