Now the US Government is using charities to pay the benefits.

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   Ericdierkerposted 9 years ago

   So the Pentagon is now taking charitable contributions to make good on its' promise to pay dependents of KIA service men and women.
   
   From what I read there is provision to make these payments based on a bill passed last week.(just read the bill - 2 pages and clearly allows these payments) But the administration has determined not to do so. Looks like they are blaming the lawyers. Obama may be a good guy. But he is just a terrible leader. He is clearly leading his administration against the people.
   
   Party politics are doing what they are suppose to do as set forth in our Constitution. I do not like it but so be it. But this is just downright lousy leadership. Obama has options and he is choosing really bad ones to punish the people.
   
   This is like a family on a tight budget and the dad declares we have no money for milk but my beer budget remains intact. Paying politicians before paying deceased military servicemen families is disgusting. This cannot be laid on Congress.

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      retief2000posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I can think of nothing more important to the function of government and honoring our troops than the President's golf game.  Despite the "shutdown" ( only 17% of government functions have actually been shut down) His Petulency has commanded that the golf course at Andrews Air Force Base remain open so that this vital and essential function of the Sun King's government can continue.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Agreed.

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      tsadjatkoposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Well, turns out this administration doesn't approve all charitable contributions. The Fishers offered to loan the money but Republican Billionaire Sheldon Adelson's Offer to pay Military Death Benefits - with no strings attached was turned down. The administration said thanks but NO THANKS! Seems this administration's specialty really is growing the debt.
      http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/10/11/wh … its-denied

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      retief2000posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Federalist #58
      
      "The House of Representatives cannot only refuse, but they alone can propose supplies requisite for the support of the government."
      
      James Madison, Father of the Constitution and one of the organizers of the Democratic-Republicans

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   Reality Bytesposted 9 years ago

   
   
   
   Dem Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee Suggests Martial Law to End Government Shutdown
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUx50lP8Vfc
   
   Imagine that?

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      retief2000posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Easily, she is part of an elitist coterie that sees the American people as an inconvenience that must be managed.  If an internment camp is necessary, so be it.  If the seizure of property is necessary, so be it.  If narrowing and regulating the FREE PRESS is necessary, so be it.  If rounding up Jews...you get the point.

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         psycheskinnerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         It's a bit early to Godwin the thread.

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         Cody Hodge5posted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Kinda ironic that you make that rant considering the governor of Maine (Tea Fiesta affiliated may I add) already declared martial law in that state.

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            retief2000posted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Cool.  How does that change things in Indiana?  It doesn't but the unlimited power of the FEDERAL - repeat - FEDERAL - government is a threat to everyone's liberty.  Let the people of Maine do as they will, apparently the notion of FEDERALISM is still a mystery to lefties.

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               Cody Hodge5posted 9 years agoin reply to this

               So it's OK if states take away the freedom of their citizens...
               
               I thought you guys were all about liberty?

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                  retief2000posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  If the people of Maine are stupid enough to put up with massively intrusive government, so be it.  Given the tendency of Maine voters, it appears they are also  enthusiastic about massively intrusive FEDERAL government.  It is the FEDERAL government imposing Maine's insanity on Indiana that is most objectionable.  Just as the FEDERAL government imposing Massachusetts' insanity on the whole country hiding behind the excuse that if Romeny liked FORCING everyone in Massachusetts to  buy health insurance it must be a good idea for EVERYBODY in America to be FORCED to buy health insurance.
                  
                  “The essence of Government is power; and power, lodged as it must be in human hands, will ever be liable to abuse.”
                  
                  “[T]he propensity of all single and numerous assemblies [is] to yield to the impulse of sudden and violent passions, and to be seduced by factious leaders into intemperate and pernicious resolutions."
                  —James Madison
                  
                  "Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
                  --- George Washington

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                     Ericdierkerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                     Check out Maine's martial law history of late. It was the United Nations -- WHO that required a martial law be imposed recently. That is pretty goofy except for NPR which just got fully funded during the shutdown. 450K for NPR and hold back death benefits for the Military ---- cool huh!!

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                     Cody Hodge5posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                     Not the point.....if its not OK to take the liberty of people anywhere, then it must be a bad thing to take away the liberty of the citizens of Maine. I thought the Tea Fiesta was all about personal liberty? Just not in Maine?
                     
                     If you would stop changing the subject, you would realize how stupid it is to blast a Democrat who *suggested* martial law while somehow glossing over a government that *invoked* martial law.

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                        retief2000posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                        Considering the political affiliation of each it would appear that the real threat to liberty is elected Democrats.

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                           Cody Hodge5posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                           Good one.....

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                              retief2000posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                              John Baldacci is a Democrat.  Do you have a link to a more recent declaration of civil emergency?  By the way, if  you live in a high snow fall state these are a frequent occurrence.  The Darling of the Lefties, Chris Christie declared martial law following Sandy.  A state declaration is hardly the same as the FEDERAL government declaring martial law.  But the difference is wasted on lefties, they can't quite understand things like federalism, limited government and constitutionalism.

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                                 Cody Hodge5posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                                 Your point may be better received if you stopped interjecting rants about how only the right understands how the Constitution works.
                                 
                                 And btw....Baldacci isn't their governor anymore......considering that the martial law was invoked in Maine like a week or two ago, you can't blame the democrats. Nice try though.
                                 
                                 I'll let you get back to your rant about how smart you think you are....

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                                    Ericdierkerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                                    Where is a link to this, Maine is very interesting politically. I cannot find a reference to this current Martial Law

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                                    retief2000posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                                    You mean the civil emergency - not martial law - caused by the Obama Shut Down.  Civil emergencies are nothing new, happens all the time in places where the snow falls. Did he suspend habeas corpus?  Did he suspend Freedom of the Press?  These are things that you would understand if you understood what a FEDERAL martial law declaration would mean.  I am not sure who you mean by "the right" but I am certain that few can misunderstand the Constitution more thoroughly or consistently than statists/liberals/lefties/Democrats.
                                    
                                    http://bangordailynews.com/2013/10/09/p … -shutdown/

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                        retief2000posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                        If you actually examined the content of your point you would realize how stupid it is to conflate state and federal power, or probably not.

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            Reality Bytesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Source?
            
            I cannot even find a tinfoiler on youtube discussing this?

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               Ericdierkerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

               Maine had martial law over the flu epidemic in 2009. Real and not pretend. http://www.maine.gov/tools/whatsnew/ind … ticle-2008
               
               An emergency law such as this invokes Martial Law. But nothing today over the slimdown.

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      tsadjatkoposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Sheila Jackson Lee? Yeah, now there's an informed Congresswoman and speaker for the Democrap party! She, said  "All those who wore sheets a long time ago have now lifted them off and started wearing [applause], uh, clothing, uh, with a name, say, I am part of the tea party..."
      great example of Democrap "civility"
      http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/Profil … /Scandals/
      Of course the grassroots Tea Party movement doesn't compare with the Democrap version of their tea party
      
      

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         retief2000posted 9 years agoin reply to this

         +++++++++++++++++

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            Ericdierkerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Ditto

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   bBereanposted 9 years ago

   It is sad and embarrassing.  The efforts by this administration to exploit the situation and make the people suffer anyway they can in hopes that the Gop will be blamed, when other options are available, and by their discretionary choices and implementation, is so transparent, I have to believe those who say they don't see it are just denying it.  Nobody can be that gullible, can they?

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      psycheskinnerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      The won't introduce a clean budget, even though if they did it would pass the house.  So blaming them strikes me as quite logical.

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         Ericdierkerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Only a budget that is clean should be considered by the Senate? What a great term. Somebody is eating the pablum.  37% approval rating for the president should suggest that privately even Pavlovs' dogs are balking at the admin.

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         bBereanposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         "Clean" as in give us what we want before we talk about what you wanted and how you didn't get any of it because we refused to do our jobs and negotiate with you?  You do know "clean" would pretty much be unprecedented in government, right?  They gave them a way to fund almost everything, but dems refuse to even negotiate.

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            retief2000posted 9 years agoin reply to this

            For anything clean to be done in that cesspool we would have to unwind about 80 years of leftist power grabbing.

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      retief2000posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      A majority of voters were that gullible, twice.

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         bBereanposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         I have no words to describe how depressing and alarming that reality is.

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      tsadjatkoposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Gullible? More like

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   Reality Bytesposted 9 years ago

   'Dollar valueless, about to crash' - World Bank whistleblower
   
   http://youtu.be/4hgA9j-4dB0
   
   
   Can anyone debunk this?  I dare you!

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      Ericdierkerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Yes - she does not name names and she claimed 10 corporations but does not name one. She speaks only in accusations and theory not facts. I am interested that the Jesuits own and control all Chinese currency. Her demeanor was short of breath and jerky which is more consistent with other qualities than truth. Her apparent association is only with herself. No need to debunk the story, the lady lacks credibility and is an attention hound. No doubt brilliant but disoriented Xs 3.

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         Reality Bytesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         World Bank Whistleblower Reveals Massive Corruption
         
         You need to know about this woman! Former Senior Counsel to the World Bank, Karen Hudes, unleashed recent interviews that should shatter any remaining fairytales about a functional and law-abiding system of banking and government.
         
         
         
         Posted: 05/29/2013 5:29 am
         
         http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kevin-law … 50872.html

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   alexsaez1983posted 9 years ago

   I'm not a right-winger by any means (I see myself as more of a left-of-center, like most Canadians), but I was pretty disappointed by Obama. Now it's really sad to see that the government isn't willing to pay benefits to all the people who signed up to get shot at.

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