Oh wait. I forgot, there's no such thing as capitalist dictators. It was a commie, as usual.
http://news.yahoo.com/north-korea-execu … 39706.html
Julius Caesar (despite being mostly awesome), Nero, Caligula, and several other emperors of the very capitalistic Roman Empire would like to have a word with you...
Well, ever since then, the power's been divided among more people, so we have mini-tyrants in recent history. Like Boss Tweed and Andrew Carnegie.
Yup. Tweed, (Democrat) go figure. And Cranegie? He called on the all the rich people to use their wealth to improve society, and stimulated wave after wave of philanthropy. Clearly a shrewd business man. If you don't like him don't work for him. But, who did they murder?
Everyone who died in the streets or in the factories due to abysmal work conditions and insulting pay.
North Korea in a nutshell. In capitalist countries you can choose your destiny, in communist countries if you don't like it you get shot. But on the bright side North Korea is very eco-friendly. They've got a tiny carbon foot print. No gun crimes either. Great healthcare too.
I really do like communism. It so abundantly points out the contrast between the good and the bad.
The very philosophy straight out of the Frankfurt School posited that the workers seduced by the material successes and general prosperity provided by capitalism were too blinded by this prosperity and relative well-being to recognize their class consciousness and bring about the communist revolution.
That's the answer they came up with to account for the success of this terrible system that created the largest middle class the world has ever seen.
What this action on Un's part shows us that thugs are thugs whether they come from a third world country or right from a ghetto.
I do hope none of you were surprised by this development.
I knew the guy was toast as soon as soon as I heard of his arrest.
There is absolutely nothing Kim Jong-un could do that would surprise...outside of an outright rejection of communism, dissolving North Korea and reunifying with the South, that is.
You thought Stalin was nasty?
This guy's just gettin' started. Hang loose, sports fans...it's gonna get worse from here.
In the words of George Zimmer, "I guarantee it."
Nothing surprises me when it comes to commie dictators. What is baffling to me are those few who actually labor under the delusion that their system is a better way to go when there is so much evidence to the contrary.
In order to take money from one group and give it to another group you will always have to use force and coercion. Thus in communism dictatorship is the rule and not the exception.
It is still an oxymoron.
Communism does not involve taking from one and giving to another be it by force or persuasion.
In order to achieve their ends the planners must acquire power over others. Their success will depend on the extent of how much power they receive. Democracy is an obstacle to this suppression of freedom which the centralized direction of economic activity requires. Hence arises the clash between planning and democracy.
Yes, you were right originally - capitalist dictator.
Wrong. In order for the capitalist to gain success they must persuade the consumer that their product or service is of value. This creates competition between capitalist entities, who would not survive without the prevalence of the average man.
Henry Ford learned this when he lowered the cost of an automobile to the affordability of the very people who worked for him. The standard of living increased, their salaries went up their lives were easier and the economy thrived. The great downfall, of course, was when private sector unions took over and we ended up with the lovely concrete jungle that is now down town Detroit.
Greed has a way of doing that - producing worthless concrete jungles - whether greed by business owners or employees. Or even the "entitled" of the country, living off the public charity.
And aren't they very good at persuading people to buy things that they neither need nor want.
They most definitely are. However they can never force anyone to buy anything. That's what government does.
I bet you really believe that as well! They really are good.
Last time I checked Nobody forced me to buy a TV, or a car, or a computer. However I was forced to paying into social security, and a government healthcare package chalked full of benefits I will never need.
Oh sure, they didn't wind your arm up your back, they are more subtle that but have you never wondered why advertisers employ psychologists?
So you would rather have a government official force you at gun point to buy something you don't need? Interesting...
I once built a liquor store, quite small, and was there when the owners and employees showed up to stock the shelves.
The work and psychology that went into determining where each bottle/brand went was enormous; far more than actually putting the bottles on the shelf after a location had been determined. Psychology, past experience of sales, price, profit, location of doors, windows and checkout - it all had a play in where each brand went and I understand large, chain type, stores are much worse.
Still, it's far from being forced to buy something.
As I said it is much more subtle than marching you up to the till at gunpoint, in fact it is so subtle otherwise aware and intelligent people deny that it happens.
There is a huge difference between drawing your eyes to a product and making you buy it. And that's all that such shenanigans can do - draw your eye to it. I have no doubt that it results in more sales for that specific product, at the expense of others, but don't see it as any more evil than any other kind of advertising that produces knowledge of a product.
Now some of the stores selling food here give free samples, but that can work both ways. Half the time I gag and run the other way!
No, it's much more insidious than drawing your eye to a product.
What are your feeling on data mining as used by many (most) supermarkets?
I don't use their card and pay cash when possible. I have to trust that they don't use my credit card information to collect such data, although that is probably a rather forlorn hope. At best, they won't know my name, address, etc. from the card and even that's very unlikely.
You horrible, horrible dictator. How do you sleep at night?
*plaintively* It wasn't my store - I was just paid to help build it!
More like you were forced to build it by a bunch of power hungry capitalist pigs!
I know. And to make it worse, the owners already had 2 other stores! Both of them about the same size as a 7-11 store! Power Hungry Capitalist Pigs at their worst!
Their sales goods were top of the line, though - they had one bottle of something (can't remember what) that sold for over $10,000. One bottle in the state.
They should have employed a government bureaucracy to pop the cork and distribute it evenly among the towns people.
No, your capitalist government just taxes you to repair the damage done by alcohol.
No, that's only under Obamacare, similar to health care in Europe where taxes pay for it all, and even then it's going to die a horrible death because there isn't enough taxes taken in to pay for it all.
It's only in the socialist countries where you find govt. taxing the citizens to pay for stuff other citizens want but don't want to pay for. Mostly, anyway - although much less than the socialists the US still has far too much of that nonsense.
But I'm talking about governments taxing citizens to pay for the ravages of the corporations.
Oh! You mean where citizens voluntarily do stupid things and then feel entitled to force someone else to pay for them!
Yeah, we see some of that too - entitlements really are a big thing in the US now. Not as much as in socialist Europe, but far beyond what a country can reasonably be expected to cover.
I tried to get them to share, but no dice. Stingy, they were. Even when I went back the next month to add some track lighting they STILL wouldn't share.
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