A letter from Disney, 1938. “Women do not do any of the creative work"

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   paradigmsearchposted 3 years ago

   A rejection letter from Disney, 1938. “Women do not do any of the creative work…”
   
   
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   I do believe things have improved since then... Thoughts?

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      Stevennix2001posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      well to be fair, that letter was written back in 1938, and discrimination against women and minorities was more common back in those times.  Not saying I agree with it, but I'm just saying we can't blame Walt Disney for his views because he grew up in a different era in history.  I'm sure if he had grown up in a more recent era, then he might have a more unsexist view of the world. 
      
      On another note though, he did say that his favorite Disney princess was Cinderella because she reminded him so much of himself, when he was younger.  A young man that always had to work hard most of his life, while hoping that one day destiny would give him a chance to have a better life.  But hey...what does he know?  Pfft..the slacker. 

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   paradigmsearchposted 3 years ago

   And I noticed there's some big, fat age discrimination in there, too.

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   nsiddposted 3 years ago

   Maybe the letter was meant in a different way. As the whole section is controlled entirely by young men it would not be advisable(she may be abused) for a young women to work among them. It was 1938, things were more conservative back then.

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      paradigmsearchposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Not conservative; bigoted. I am so happy to live in a time where things are getting better, rather than worse.

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         nsiddposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         Me too,truly times are better than they were. I presume that there will be a day in the future where someone will look back and say the same. Hope the mother Earth finds more peace ! \m/

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         Patty Inglish, MSposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         He made at least two comments that show some negativity toward females. Perhaps he picked up his father's bigotry and prejudices as some biographers state? His father was horrid to him.
         
         In the 1960s: As an ambulance driver in WWI France who was forced to view slides of venereal disease results for men - “Those horrible slides." "That’s when you begin to hate women” [Martin/Miller interview, Reel 4, 11, Reel 5, 31 and Watts, "Magic Kingdom," page 15.]
         
         In 1954: “I was normal, but girls bored me. They still do. Their interests are just different” [“Father Goose,” Time, 27 Dec 1954, page 44].

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   paradigmsearchposted 3 years ago

   What? No response? Transfer this critter to politics.

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      Motown2Chitownposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      

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   psycheskinnerposted 3 years ago

   We have these forum areas for non-hub topics.  You could try using them rather than obliging the mods to move them every time?

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   RockyMountainMomposted 3 years ago

   Similar rationale was used in Forestry at that time. The first woman fire lookout was a ground breaker.  But the likelihood of abuse due to an all male environment, as mentioned above, is reportedly one of the factors in that realm as well.

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   paradigmsearchposted 3 years ago

   Someone sent me an email with a bunch of vintage pics. I wasn't picking on Walt here.
   
   My intent was to note and celebrate that our society is no longer the mess it used to be.

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      retief2000posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Agreed and it has been much better for a long time. My Aunt was one of the first Patrol Policewomen in the country in the 1940s. It is surprising that this attitude existed even in the 1930s considering that Margaret Mitchell's "Gone With the Wind" was a giant, national best seller and production of the motion picture was underway. I think it more accurately reflects one persons desire not to be bothered with hiring women. It doesn't take a time machine to travel back to 1938 to find people who find working with members of the opposite sex or sexual orientation a little annoying. It is, after all, a matter of temperament and personality.

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         Some mores were stronger back then.
         Mores |ˈmôrˌāz|
         "a term introduced into English by William Graham Sumner (1840–1910), an early U.S. sociologist, to refer to norms that are more widely observed and have greater moral significance than others. Mores include an aversion for societal taboos, such as incest or pederasty. Consequently, the values and mores of a society predicates legislation prohibiting their taboos."  Wikipedia.

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   LeslieAdrienneposted 3 years ago

   Thank  God for the change.....

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   Patty Inglish, MSposted 3 years ago

   Steps were slow to equality in Central Ohio. For example, Ponderosa Steakhouses here hired their first woman manager in the mid-to-late 1970s. The leading burger chain did as well, but forced female mgr. trainees to wear crew uniforms (male trainees wore dress slacks and shirts) until almost 1980 and would not permit the women to tell the crew people they were manager trainees. The crew and some male managers laughed at them during work, would not help them, and said they should be paid minimum wage.
   
   A few employment sectors still treat women the same way here today.

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