Hillary Clinton: "The war on terror" is over

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  1. fishskinfreak2008 profile image60
    fishskinfreak2008posted 13 years ago

    OK I almost misread this as "The war on terror is over" when the title was the subject of a Fox News article. OK, we're not even close to finding Osama bin Laden.

    1. Ralph Deeds profile image63
      Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this


      What Hillary was saying was not that terrorism has been defeated but rather that describing our counter-terrorism efforts as a War on Terrorism was a mistake. Using such misleading terminology leads to a narrowing of options under consideration and usually leads to misguided military solutions like our costly and counter-productive invasion of Iraq.

      The "war on drugs" has produced similarly dismal results--millions of drug users and small time pushers in prison and continued spread of addictive drug use. Lyndon Johnson's "war on poverty" didn't work out very well, either, as I recall.

      "Zero Tolerance" is another phrase that tends to create mischief without solving whatever problem toward which it's directed. Grade schoolers are expelled for having a dull knife in their lunch box and young girls are turned over to the police and politically ambitious prosecutors for "sexting" on their cell phones. When questioned about the ridiculous results of their actions, administrators explain that they had no choice because of the organization's "zero tolerance policy." Rather than examining the problem and taking a common sense action, they justify drastic knee-jerk action based on "zero tolerance."

      1. RKHenry profile image62
        RKHenryposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Ralph, as a not too long ago student of high school, you hit the nail on the head.  Man, going to school is like lock up or lock down.  And if you're black, well.  That's a whole other ballgame.  Remember we blacks are GANGSTA.  It's hell.  My lil sis is dealing with that zero tolerance crap.  Black girl [bitchaz] standing around a girl fight, between two whites, will get 10 days suspended fast.  It makes NO difference if you've got the principle on your side or not.  Shit.  Zero tolerance, gives white cops that right to racial profile our blackness.  And I'm from an all white neighborhood, you know, on the right side of the tracks.  Here what I'm sayin?  America has been about knee jerk reactions.  If not in policy, in backhanded knee jerks to the back.  Ridiculous. Zero Tolerance creates mischief, alright.  Mischief from the officers of the "law".

        1. Ralph Deeds profile image63
          Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          We can agree on that!

  2. VENUGOPAL SIVAGNA profile image62
    VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 13 years ago

    Mrs.Hillary Clinton is always wrong.  When terror is increasing and some terrorist organisation in Pakistan has threatened "our next target is Washington DC," how can the war be over.?  It will be over only when the number of terrorists come to zero.

  3. WHoArtNow profile image83
    WHoArtNowposted 13 years ago

    Can you post a link to the article? I would like to read what she said because that sounds like she's been miss quoted. Anyone who says it's over is stupid, and Hillary Clinton isn't that.

    Basically, I want proof, or it didn't happen.

    1. VENUGOPAL SIVAGNA profile image62
      VENUGOPAL SIVAGNAposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      No one need ask for proof. It is not one's duty to provide links or proof. It is only a discussing forum., I think.  If we carryon reading daily news, we shall cross over these things. When everything changes rapidly, no one has the time to follow the news itself.  In these circumstances, going back and finding proof in previous news items may not be easy.  Sorry. if you dont want, please skip it.

  4. countrywomen profile image61
    countrywomenposted 13 years ago

    She said the terminology of Global "War On Terror"(GWOT)  is over and not the actual ground reality. The new terminology for GWOT seems to be "Overseas Contingency Operation"
    Now coming to the second part about finding Osama Bin Laden smile

    1. Paraglider profile image89
      Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I think (and hope) that a little bit of common sense is prevailing and the Administration is realising that GWB's so-called War on Terror was a huge error in linguistics and presentation. Of course it is still necessary to work against terrorism, but the simplistic idea that you can destroy it with bombs and guns as if it was a conventional war against a conventional army has no place in an intelligent world. The approach has to be intelligence, policing, diplomacy and (occasionally) precise undercover strikes.

  5. Misha profile image63
    Mishaposted 13 years ago

    Dave I disagree. Propaganda campaign was pretty good, and as a result the nation supported this war. So it was obviously properly catered to the audience. You or I did not buy it, but we were not a target audience. smile

  6. Misha profile image63
    Mishaposted 13 years ago

    Hey Ralph, I definitely agree on war on drugs and zero tolerance smile


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