There is Harper smear campaign (Harper being like a Canadian GW Bush) Say Justin Trudeau (liberal) wants to legalize Marijuana and do nothing about ISIS. That is Great news in my books I might Vote for first time in my life for something that makes good sense.
America was the Greatest and with the most positive number 1 things than anywhere on earth. Until War on Drugs and War on Terrorism began. Base on how hubbers who ignore my last threads on the War is what US is # 1 at. American sacrifices there total positive thing for negative things and do not confront their own problem at home
US War on drugs for 75 years failed and all the branches worldwide too. America’s prisons are half full from drug convictions. About 87% are non violence, plus 25% of prisoners in the US compared to worldwide). The war on terrorism has cost America most of the things that made America positive number 1 at. Ron Paul claims if America is not bankrupt now, it will be when they continue war with ISIS in Iraq and Middle East. . Russia and China will return the favour of helping them go bankrupted.
Never wrong yet in prediction this suffering for American will continue for more than 10 years.
At least tell me to go to hell that would be better than ignoring me or not confronting America’s problems.
Looks like us baby boomers drop the ball on Peace/Love/Rock/Pot/Freedom in exchange for Greed/Material junk/debt/Terrorist ghosts/unsustainable jobs and homes.
Wait til 100 Million babyboomers go to collect their pension. I feel a dollar crash
and another bailout lo lo.mmmaaaa
mmmaaaa haha MOOOHAAAHAaaa.
VOTE Justin the new hippy, can't hurt anyways. The younger generation is smarter than us.
I think aging boomers will be camping and conferrering with the oai people how to live without money.
We could go back to trading and/or using wampum ...
and living in Teepees.
Suddenly, I want a horse.
But, hay is now very expensive.
I think it will be better if we do not legalize marijuana.
I think it will be better to confront ISIS.
I think we need to drop a big fat bomb and show 'em who's got the goods to keep em in their holes.
Like the little ants they are.
Why not?
The boomers, big fat houses,and working longer, harder and for what? For most of them to spend most of waking hours of their lives disliking their work and being the greatest threat to mankind ever by polluting the natural environment. Poverty is most connected with corporatism and the mother load of crime
since 95% of crime is occupational.
Piratcy, gold rush, one world religion and order, homes, wars and jobs are no substainable. No longer can America
steal, print money and kill from the rest of
the world to substain it'greed, oil and once rich lifestyle. China has almost surpass America in everyway except War,
because they gain the World's trust by
peaceful means. Bombing for trust worked for keeping the world in fear
of America. The World is ready to give
the boots karma, back on those fat, redneck greedy bastards in a non violent way.
...and the youth are not smarter than us.
Trading without taxes is America's second greatest sin, yet it was invented in Iraq. Written language was invented in Iraq. Military and defence castles were invented in Iraq making them very hard to kill. Not like America using the british con job system that created the greatest genicide in human history. At one time America natives were 5 times the population of Europe.This time the history of brown people are wiser with the internet and they are the people of the earth who won't go away any more than gays, weed, jellyfish, and people of colour.
Give it up you white minority boomer
greedy bastard. They surrounded by people of colour, diversity and globalization superpower stronger than the (by far)over employed US military and
justice complex, that harms our true nature, justice and freedoms.
Green things are illegal like the most useful and productive plant
Did not finish last sentence, green things like cannabis plants is the most important plant in the world. When the US military and justice complex tries to destroy it from the face of the earth. It's not just the grestest crime against the America citizens it's the greatest crime against earth nature.
Well, it is one cause of self-induced mental retardation.
And doesn't actually fit in with survival of the fittest.
The best survivalist not the fittest yet the most diversity creasures. There is no other material on this planet as useful and with the diversity than cannibis plant . The corporations just don't want green power,which is greater power for the people. Otherwise they just want to own us like gods and run our lives, whats so retarded about that.
You are talking about non-THC cannibis. You have mentioned the use of hemp to make logs to burn, etc..
Whats wrong with green non-THC hemp/cannibis according to politicians? Maybe its hard to keep the non-THC plants separate from the THC plants.
We wouldn't want to find that our logs are the THC type!
- well, yeah some would.
Cannibis grows four times faster than trees and it can replace much of lumber in houses. About 75% of forest is gone on earth and paper is 50% of waste in landfill, cannibis can replace both. Cannibis can replace much of the oil, concrete, plastics, fabrics, food and the list gose on to 50,000 Different product.
What medical or other product uses would alcohol or tobacco have?
Tell you one thing, tobacco has killed more people in all the wars combined since world war 2 ,plus all the drugs combined. Tobacco has actualy kill more
people than the US military, call it native
revenge. Yet they kill or jail a million US citizen every year over a corporation
raceist lie over reefer maddness set 80
years ago.
Don't smoke anything, that's not healthy. Just take it home and eat it, eat, it ,eat it and beat it.
Have some more pie, have some more tai.
Just eeea, it
Studies show that twice as many Canadian kids per capita smoke weed greater than dutch kids. In Holland weed is schedule 3 safer than tobacco and alcohol. Where in Canada and US weed is schedule 1 which is more dangerious than alcohol and tobacco and no has no medical benifits.
Meaning when kids are lied to and not education about the true facts of weed. They will smoke a lot more and not trust our generation, for good reason.
Either that or it means that kids are stupid enough to do anything that adults don't want them to be doing. Of the two, I prefer the stupidity angle - as a kid I know that anything forbidden carried a huge dollop of excitement and desire just because of that.
I have an open and trusting relationship with my daughter. One time she was drinking and doing pot too much. I said, would perfer a pothead daughtet than an alcoholic one. What would be better is neither. What start out as pleasure, if not done moderation will turn into pain. Lucky for her and me, we are in the pleasure business of the arts, no higher drug than that.
Well, I picked up a Magazine when I was in Colorado recently. The magazine features advertisements about pot and paraphernalia. Its called Rooster.
http://www.therooster.com/blog/boulder/magazine
I found this public service announcement in it:
"THC intoxication can occur to pets that ingest cannabis plants, dried bud from the plants, or marijuana infused edibles. Since the legalization of marijuana, there haas been a four fold increase in the number of dogs treated for THC poisoning in Colorado. While death from Marijuana is rare in cats and dogs, these pets are prone to bad trips. Don't let your cat mistake cannabis for catnip. Put your pot away."
http://www.theflowercollective.com
We need a poll to determine how the boomer generation is living.
Most are not living the way you described at all.
Those older, younger and from other countries are living that way. I saw it in Venice/Marina del Ray.
As far as I know/have observed, we are living much more simply. We never gave up our values. We are teaching, and righting things subtly behind the scenes.
Steve Jobs and Bill Gates were boomers. Look what they did for all of us. We are advancing tremendously because of the technology they put to extremely (understatement) good use. We are communicating and staying positive. So stop referring to Boomers that way. How dare you.
( BTW There are many examples of the greatness of the boomer generation as far as positive messages toward peace and a better world: movie scripts, actors, authors, artists, not to mention musicians...)
That others, ( added: mentioning politicians here) corrupt what is good in the world, presents all of us with a challenge ...
and recreationally smoking Pot will not help the cause of changing the world for the better. (Many of our great musicians died of substance abuse and I do believe pot is a gateway drug!)
And ISIS is satanic Delusion which must be eradicated by any means possible so the rest of us can continue evolving through any means possible.
- where would we be now without the boomer generation?
And our grandchildren will follow suit. Thank goodness for them.
BTW Obama is not from the Boomer generation.
A Boomer would have bombed ISIS by now.
Not sure who.
Maybe Jesse Ventura?
But then, he is too busy working behind the scenes, where the problem is, to run for president.
The boomers would just bomb ISIS by now.
Thank dog, for the smarter generation, after bombing ISIS what middle eastern soldiers would take over then. The American perdominate white christian nation can no longer cut throat brown countries. The Americans used the english con job system that worked on native
brown people of America. Now that the third world is updated fast as you on the internet and places like China and India have doubled America's ecomonmic growth. The game has changed.
I guess I can pretty much ramble on any way I want now that he's gone.
And I do agree we need to buy records and record players again.
...and tube amps.
- especially you boomers who have big fat houses.
Marijuana will destroy our grandchildren just like it destroyed so many of us.
And hopefully they won't be trying to get in each others pants like we did … and probably still do.
we had our faults, I won't say we didn't.
Arrogance was another one …
And they say we just won't go away …
- that may prove to be a good thing in the long run.
I hope so.
Not gone yet
You were smarter at age 30 than at age 20. At age 40 you were smarter than at age 30 and so on...at least I hope so.lo.
It's the same with each generation where we are smarter than our parents, our kids
are smarter than us and so on with each.
That is natural law, unless your dealing with super natural law from the bible where Adam, (not Eve) was the smartest person who ever live. If that were true,
than evolution is a lie and we are droooling from three sides of our mouths wail getting dumber to dumbest.
The cannibis plant is the most useful and productive plant in the World. The Justice and the Military complex are brecking natures law. Unless the using above
supernatural laws of stealing and killing far beyond an eye for an eye. The military revenge and hate plans not just stop at Sadam or Bin Ladin or ISIS , yet who
replaces them and every last living
creasure on that side. Hitler was most impressed on how Americans created the greatest genicide in human history. The American native, who once had 5 Times the population of Europe. Yes, America
surpassed the British empire. Now it's Globalization superpower has outgrown
America's fearing threats to the World.
Don't believe my never wrong predictions,
most people believe that already.
I'll be making a film called.
No just War.
Even in your Bible, the condition for war would make it imposiable to have a war.
I will take the international level of UN.
NATO, and US military practice and apply it at the local level of American family feuds. One family start off stealing from another family and in the process one of the theives get killed. Since this family has higher up members in the justice system, they use this to get a licence to kill and steal that family at all cost women, children and to every last drop of blood in the name of God. To bad God get used as a tool for their reasoning. To have the gaul to kill someone, takes the insanity that the other family is a family of devils.
Would not reccomment smoking or driving a lot on pot. No one has been known to die directly from pure pot. Althought there has been reports of 17 death in car accidents related to pot, which could mean other drugs involved each year. Conpared to 100,000 deaths from alcohol.
If it was a gateway drug that cat would which from milk to
beer. Lo. The vast majority of people are happy just staying with pot and it' less addicting than coffee
So we decide to vote ourselves into an existence of an entitled and altered state , for instance about the legalization of pot ! " - "Okay I like getting high , SO - I believe in the legalization of pot ". - so , why not now downplay any and all negativity about pot itself ?
What alcoholic isn't going to vote himself another shot and a beer ?
"It 's not a gateway drug " , --"Our legal system , our jails are full of innocent pot users "--" Its not dangerous to the forming mind, brain of our youth "on and on ,It all kind of takes the meaning out of right and wrong when we decide to entitle ourselves to our own sins ?
"Everybody must get high " re. -Bob Dylan ?
The very title of this thread shows the immaturity of a culture that allows itself to decide about the path of it's own AND ITS CHILDRENS decline . I suppose if one is pretty high , one wouldn't give a damn about terrorism to begin with .
In vietnam the more they got high, the less they wanted to kill. Because pot makes you think about things.Like nothing dumbers than to kill poor people because they don't believe in our white. God.
Each generation get smarter because by per capita we kill less since the second world war. Corporation cartels is a different story. Death by sugar, fat, toxic food, toxic waste, air, water, and it's shortening our lives, wail the greatest pass time is lying about it.
Build your own green healthy home for 1/10 the cost and avoid building a house and a half for your bankster who most likely you don,'t know.
I build small castles without the hassle or teach others how to in workshops also how to grow healthy food.
Or
Stick with your leaders and follow them to your toxic papertiger wasteland ,the cash won't be worth toliet paper, butt hey you suffer tightly together.
Its not going to come to that. It really won't.
If everybody just follows the rules and enacts love for their fellow man and woman.
It can start today.
Vote out the bad politicians.
Being a clairvoyant the only way I know how stop this next 10 years of futher suffering. Is having other people who have a clear enough destiny solution to overright my flawless predictions. It' has not been on this site for fives year.
Must search for others to prove me
wrong for the first time.
"Vote out the bad politicians."
How can that happen when all you have is the bad ones to vote for?
Tough question, all right. Maybe run yourself in a futile effort to conquer the billions of $$ from the party lines?
Unfortunately they will crush you like a grape. We the people need to remedy the situation and clean house. On the same line we are a bunch of cowards to trust in what the Constitution allows us to fix it.
Term limits, publicly financed campaigns and lobby reform are the only answer. But cowards we are in the face of it.
http://www.termlimitsforuscongress.com/
I don't think the sarcasm came through very well.
Agree, although I DO see major problems with publicly financed campaigns. It sounds good, but is ripe for abuse.
Castle , I know many men who were in that war , and of those many I think that you do a huge disservice to real veterans in such a shameful rant . perhaps you've spent too much money watching the re- runs of Apocalypse Now . Although we can all find something to be shameful about in the Viet -Nam war theatre or any war , to suggest that so many soldiers were pot headed and killing babies suggests that you've plagiarized far too much of the anti- war mentality of the sixties . How you can even suggest that if soldiers simply smoked more pot there would be more "smart " people simply shows your immaturity in this or any real debate .
Maybe the problem is that soo many pot smokers are simply burn victims [meaning brain cells, for those in the know ] , In my experience - that is simply the real and honest agenda behind this scourge of legalization . But hey , peace love and tye- dye right ? Until the next war anyway , maybe that one will be in your neighborhood , if it is ; remember how as you salute your new leaders , once you dissed real soldiers .
The Reefer Maddness films showen in our school, had women running naked into lakes laughing, or a guy running around like a squawking chicken and falls off the apartment balcony to his death. It took us kid 4 Joints just to get a buzz. So we asked, where can someone get this stuff?
In Vietnam had more weed there than in the US at the time. In 1968 they tighten up the rules then many soldiers switch over to heroin to cope with stress of death. When the troops came back to the States More soldiers committed suicide or had early deaths than were killed over in Vietnam.
I used to wonder where such useless information came from , and now I can ask YOU this one word question - HUH ? Would you care to explain how heroin came to be the drug of use by most Viet Vets ? For instance , I have a brother who served in Viet Nam that has never even smoked a joint , totally believed in the cause and would go back now to Finish something you and I and congress stopped in midstream ! I would love to see your fact source !
Talk to plenity of GI in Bangkok, around the war time in Veitnam. Who is going to give you a correct account on something as illegal as weed anyways?
Good evening, ahorseback. Nice to meet up with you again.
Please allow me to point out that 40% of servicemen had used Heroin while they were in Vietnam. About half (20%) of ALL home bound vets were found to be addicted and they were detained in Vietnam by the military until they were clean. {1} {2} {3}
{1} http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shot … bad-habits
{2} http://jamesclear.com/heroin-habits
{3} http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 … x/abstract
Quilligrapher , While I understand the need for the diversity in the origins of pollsters , studies , statistical articles and opinions , I find they are simply that , statistical opinions . One has to remember , If we look at such numbers long enough we find that quite often , the agenda behind them dictates the very outcome ! And you and many others know that too- or at least you should . I read a lot and when I do , the first thing I do is determine the likelihood of an agenda in an article. I do not trust a lot of the generalities that are implied in the entire 60's -70's era - Provided by our media- and rightfully so ! So much so that if I know a lot a lot of veterans , I would sooner trust what they know .
My opinion is, that It IS the "Apocalypse Now" or Oliver Stone, fantasies of facts , statistics and truths ' that all too many people love to quote and believe in . In other words , It is those who write the 'history ' that control the " truths" . ---So statistics ? Please , I sooner trust the soldier to tell the history of war , than the media that chastises the soldier for believing in a cause .
Hi, Ahorseback. I appreciate your prompt reply.
You may recall that you asked for sources to support Castle’s claim that heroin use had been widespread among our troops in Vietnam. {1} I gave you links to three separate discussions revealing that 20% of returning vets tested positive for heroin use and you rejected all three without even reading them.
Then, you try to cover up the fact that you did not read the sources with a lecture about “statistical opinions.” Had you been sincere about wanting to see sources, had you not dismissed these sources without reading them, you would have discovered that 20% was not a “statistical opinion.” It was the actual number of urine samples that tested positive for heroin use.
If you want to learn, read the articles. If you find errors or discrepancies, bring them to the forum for an intelligent discussion. Your reply, however, does not raise any objections connected to the sources. You did not find their contents lacking. You simply rejected the facts they contained because they are not what you want to believe.
Better yet, don’t read the sources and remain in the dark. By all means, cling to your beliefs and avoid examining any findings that disagree with your foregone conclusions.
Peace, my friend. I hope you enjoy your evening. Continue reading and always keep an open mind.
{1} http://hubpages.com/forum/post/2753380
slant is slant is slant.
Its how opinions are formed. Even yours, Mr. Quill. You use stats to persuade others to your way of thinking as we use personal insights and beliefs gained through observations and experience. Neither way is superior, if you ask me,
which no one did.
Happy Friday, Ms. Hill. Nice to chat with you again.
"slant is slant is slant. Its how opinions are formed. Even yours, Mr. Quill."
I can only hope that someday we will all see an end to false statements based upon uninformed notions. Your opinions may be formed by “slant”, but projecting an inability to reason onto me is just another false assumption. I would love to have you tell us how you form your opinions, but please do not venture beyond my actual words and pretend you know how I form mine.
I recognize that many insights and beliefs are based solely on personal observations and experiences. For some folks, this is most of their total knowledge. However, total knowledge can be expanded by individual research or exploration and it can be enlarged even further by learning from valid research and exploration done by others. Most importantly, the latter will always lead to greater knowledge than if one depends only on personal experiences.Which is superior is not as important as which has the greatest potential for achieving the most knowledge.
This strand of the thread is about widespread heroin use by troops in Vietnam. Mine seems to be the only post to include sources. You are welcome to read the sources and/or submit your own. If you find errors or discrepancies, bring your facts to the forum for an intelligent discussion.
Thank you, Ms. Hill, for your comments. It is always a pleasure reading your posts particularly on days that end with ‘y’.
Seven out of seven days end with a y. That means its is a pleasure to read my post any day.
Why, Thank You! How kind.
Even though you can't stand my point of view or how I back it up.
Good to know.
Dear Ms. Hill,
I must have said something that sounded terribly harsh for you to think that I can not stand your points of view. If this is the case, I apologize profusely!
Every person’s opinion deserves to be respected up to the point where they claim or imply that their opinions are facts. At that time, it becomes important to prevent the facts from being distorted by the opinions that don’t merit being treated as facts.
Backing up opinions with verifiable facts is an excellent way to establish that conclusions are independently supported by others in the real world.
Again, I am sorry if I led you to think I do not admire your opinions. I often give credit to the late Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan for this wisdom: “Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts.”
Enjoy your days, Ms. Hill. May they be filled with sunshine and truth.
It just seems like no matter what I say, if you do not happen to agree with the point of view, you will attempt to show me in a false light by presenting your own sources of the facts. Who is to say whose sources are the most appropriate or adequate for the discussion at hand?
Enjoy your hours of fruitful research and intense scrutiny in declaring falsities for whatever reasons.
Would that apply for people over age 50 and to the legal drugs that kill more people than the illlegal drugs.?
Horseback
Why would your brother want to back to Veit Nam to finish the job?
Veitnam Communism was the major threat to American, Like Christain Germany who killed 20 million
Communism Russians during World war 2..
What other reason than nonstop revenge or hate for atheist or nonreligious Veitnam's people he would want to go back to?
Jesus did not want anyone to kill anyone.
I believe Jesus recommended getting out the sword when needed.
I believe he wanted us to defend good over evil and justice over injustice and tyranny. I do not believe he meant to lay down like a doormat.
There are many instances of this which we have already covered, but, apparently you missed that semester. (Many a HP forum thread revealed these instances in my memory.)
Perhaps, a good fat bomb would have ended the vietnam struggle quickly and efficiently ...
My understanding is that guys were being drafted and felt forced to go to war and so rebelled.
They had to go and suffered cuz they were peace loving sorts in those days. Neptune in Libra and all… wrong generation to draft.
The Way I see It
Kathryn , So many people love to hate the whole theist - patriotic , good over evil sense of world reasoning . - I always find it very humbling to watch a soldier or ex-soldier pray .They make me realize that I am so very small . I will believe in my country -through the eye's of these honorable men and women any day over every "statistic" in the world . real Viet-Nam veterans were the last of a dying breed ,in my opinion , they believed blindly in God , family , country and honor .
Many believe these patriotic ones were used for economic purposes which is what the Viet Nam equates to … according to them.
The validity of the Viet Nam war is another topic for another day I suppose.
There is no denying it, America lost the Vietnam War Vietnam had a America's foreign policy, It was to stop the spread of Communism. Well how well has that worked? Today, Communist is 25% of the world population Americans appears to be slowly embracing the idea that there is a better way to run society. “Socialism," a term that carries far less baggage than "communism," Why did nearly 4 million Vietnamese and nearly million and half Iraqi die for their oil at the same time maybe they think to slow down the Muslims population. I think both Religions are loony because they will continue to lose Iraq and other Middle Eastern countries wars on US tax payers Brocken back. . GW Bush killed more Iraqi than Sad am killed, Yet who cares if Bush co. were buddies with Sad am 20 years before. In the monopoly mafia family, anything goes ,even hanging another President. Glad they are not part of my family, the world is my family.
War on Drugs 75 years ago started with 50,000 American that had tried marijuana. Today 150 million have tries marijuana in this generation. Is the war on drugs working? Or is score 1000 to 1 for drugs.
Education not incarnation would work, make laws like tobacco laws for age restriction.
There is something inherently bad about pot. I have heard it was created in the days of Atlantis and that it was a genetically modified man-created plant. Its effect on the human body is too acidic, as all poisons are.
I can't imagine Jesus would want CEO's to grow 10 fold today. He was only angry with the money marketeers as he pushed moreso for sharing of the poor.
Can't imagine Jesus picking up a swored other than to defend himself. Why would Jesus encourage the killing of millions of
innocent poor people in VeitNam or Iraq. Or would Jesus talk about weapons of
mass destuction, or the greed of oil the main reason why US soldier are over there. They can't stomp out gays, atheists, and other cultures like Hitler tried, anymore, the world do not allow it anymore.
That part of America military and justice
karma is ten fold destructive towards it own justice and freedom of America and to the rest of the world.The global public opinions will not will not accept or take it anymore. My daughter and I art business had boomed over the creative, loving and beautiful part of America, bring back the old America back.
Castle , I understand ! .........You don't believe in war , you don't believe in America , you don't believe in the soldier , you don't believe in such causes that invoke any sense of patriotism ! That explains much of your very reasoning . My advice to you though , Don't try to elect Oliver Stone to the keeper of facts and history .
For instance, stats cannot answer this question asked by
Ahorseback.
"Would you care to explain HOW heroin came to be the drug of use by most Viet Vets?"
The answer could be answered by individual interviews only.
I would agree that pot is a gateway drug. Stats on this?
I would agree that pot was becoming popular in those days. Stats on this?
I would assume many were drafted and were miserable, as it was not their choice to go in the first place. Stats on this?
But, I do not know anyone that went to war as they stopped drafting guys and none of our friends went.
So, I am surmising all these things. Is there a way to prove or disprove my surmises?
Curious
Widespread use of weed in Vietnam or heroin can mean 20% OR 60%. The soldier on weed in Vietnam didn’t care much about war or killing people. The reefer madness is a 75 year war lie base on racism and corporation whitewash to take over control of all green products. They called marijuana Public enemy Number 1. I know who is public enemy no.#1, if I did not have so many guns pointed at me and had more support on hub pages and from the much fearful brainwashed public out there. The wars are just a shell game for the real big time genocide killers. Monsanto’s seed, Fast food, sugar, fat foods, oil co. drug cartels and bank cartels and the list goes on….and on.
I don’t get you’re the point on how weed is a gateway drug.
Even if it was, it should not be the Government/Corporatism choice on what we put in to our bodies, it’s ours choice first. My point is throughout this legalization of weed (Cannabis) is a soft drug. Cannabis has far more benefits for products and medicine worldwide than any other plant on earth. Where ISIS, Sad am, Bin Laden Monsters that the US created to feed the Greed club. The same club that THEY beats you guys with, all day long and keep you in the Dark with God.
Weed gateway hypothesis doesn’t make sense to those who use marijuana or have used in the past. Research shows that the vast majority of marijuana users do not go on to use hard drugs. Most stop using after entering the adult social world of family and work.
I saw a grow-op, and then the RCMP police (most honest cops in the world) told me the person with the grow-op has committed double homicide. I did my own fact checking, and found, not true. I told RMCP I will not be a wittiness in court, because they lied to me, that’s my law.. They threaten to give me a criminal record if I did not show up in court. Since challenge RCMP to a nationwide marijuana debate (discussion for me) They dropped and decline the nationwide marijuana debate and my court case.
"Most stop using after entering the adult social world of family and work."
The point of legalizing THC is then to provide it to immature people incapable of recognizing it's dangers? Our society is generally more concerned with protecting our children, not intentionally exposing them to danger.
Personally Ladies and gentlemen , I would FAR rather disrespect the social mentality of a shameful U.S. nation from the sixties than the Viet -Nam veterans that we SHOULD have been so proud of- then , and yet weren't !
Castlepaloma ; Making so many negative generalities about these vets from Viet Nam is about the most cowardly thing you could do to them !
Quillagrapher , I do not need to link often to your favorite studies , those with agenda's often slanted by false or certainly mildly polluted opinions , I'd rather continue to read constantly about all phases of so many studies and texts AND to rely more on many actual veterans experiences . To suggest I open my mind implies that I have not , So I suggest you- use more common sense than to simply linking to others "statistics " , so often more than politically slanted . Do you ever actually have an opinion that isn't linked to someone else's ?
Horse back
I think there has not been a just war, since World War 2, and only in part. Never should the US soldier or military budget be greater than 10 tens their Education budget or it’s design for offensive not defensive. Or the small (bullet penis) head is guiding the big head.
A small amount of ego, pride or patriotism is fine, yet when a soldier kills poor people, men, woman and children and get the ultimate prize of an America hero, that is out of whack. I was a world class ex-jock and enjoy NHL, yet hockey players who make17 million a year or Oliver Stone are not my national hero neither. My hero is a 107 year old man who has a nice home, no debts, farms every day, rides a bike, swims and has sex once in wail, something more of a realist dreams for the rest of us to aim for. Even to have sex with myself at that age would be outstanding.
If your advice is not to try to elect myself keeper of facts and history. Too late, from traveling worldwide and building fantasy and history theme parks, history museum displays, Not a bad passion and burden for the pass 40 working years
You got me on negative generalities about Viet Nam and Wars. Have not been called a coward before, maybe because I’m fearless yet not stupid. On a military forum a soldier had threaten my life for my comments. Like on these hub pages (Not that scary) nobody else has come forth to specks out for those millions of innocent children killed between Viet Nam and Iraq.
Have been to six war zones and had guns pointed at my head, was not stupid enough to disagree with them, only time I will lie is when my very life depends on it. , Yet still, do not get their point at the end of a gun barrel, or the stats without a healthy views point on the hub pages. war on drugs has failed, war on communist has failed, war on oil and Muslim has failed. War on Saddam. Bin Laden, and now SISI will fail because another freedom fighter will replace them and you can them terrorist all over again. Worst lost is the American tax payer.
Almost brainwashed myself there
No the worst thing is those millions of dead kids, not the American tax payers. Athough their near bankrupcy, serves them right for allowing those kids to die.
Good afternoon, ahorseback. I am always happy to read about your opinions.
There is a the difference between facts and opinions, a huge difference.
A fact is a piece of verifiable information that is used as evidence or as part of a report or news article. A fact is knowledge based on real occurrences. It deals with something that really exists or has occurred.
An opinion is a viewpoint or personal judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on facts, which are different. An opinion is a belief that does not amount to truth or knowledge.
In my initial post, I responded to YOUR request for sources confirming widespread heroin use in Vietnam. I provided links to published facts that were not “statistical opinions” nor do those verified facts reveal anything about my opinions.
U.S. soldiers at Long Binh base, northeast of Saigon, line up to give urine samples at a heroin detection center in June 1971, before departing for the U.S. - AP
National Public Radio (NPR) reported in January, 2012, "a comprehensive system was set up so that every enlisted man was tested for heroin addiction before he was allowed to return home. And in this population, [psychiatric researcher Lee] Robins did find high rates of addiction: Around 20 percent of the soldiers self-identified as addicts. " {1}
The preceding paragraph contains FACTS, my friend, and not opinions. These facts do not reflect my opinion or that of a researcher.
A GI lights up a cigarette in Saigon in 1971. He poured grains of heroin into the menthol cigarette, from which he had first removed some of the tobacco. - AP
You told us how you “rely more on many actual veterans experiences.” Well, here are the experiences of actual Vietnam veterans that were originally published in Problems of Drug Dependence, 1977, Proceedings of the Thirty-Ninth Annual Scientific Meeting of the Committee on Problems of Drug Dependence.
“Eighty-five percent of the men told us that they had been offered heroin while they were there—often quite soon after their arrival. (One soldier was offered heroin as he descended from the plane on which he arrived in Vietnam by a soldier preparing to board that same plane to return home. He was offered the heroin in exchange for a clean urine so that the man due to leave would be able to get through the urine screen.) Thirty- five percent of Army enlisted men actually tried heroin while in Vietnam, and 19% became addicted to it." {2}
Being open-minded is not the same as being gullible. Being open-minded is being receptive to new ideas and willing to explore other perspectives to see if they hold any value. It includes being able to examine unfamiliar or unwelcome ideas.
After telling this forum how you consciously avoid “studies, those with agenda's [sic] often slanted by false or certainly mildly polluted opinions,” you still believe you are being open-minded, well, I don’t, but we can still be friends.
Have a great weekend!
{1} http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shot … bad-habits
{2} http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 … x/abstract
"This "myth" of rampant drug use in Vietnam was created for several reasons and was exploited by both political parties. For liberal Democrats, they used the myth to show that the military was unwilling and unable to carry out the war and that the soldiers should thus be brought home. Likewise, conservatives used the myth to perpetuate a domestic war on drugs ("We can't have drug-addicted soldiers coming back and spreading the drugs throughout the US"). It was also used to create a pseudo "stab-in-the-back" theory in which liberal permissiveness had infiltrated into the military, thus causing the defeat in Vietnam."
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/c … etnam_war/
" ...if crime is up, can we blame legal pot? We do not know whether legalization has anything to do with it. But we do know that reputable news organizations should stop relying on the Big Marijuana lobby for statistics. They wouldn't blindly trust coal-industry statistics on the environmental effects of strip mining, and they should bring similar skepticism to propaganda claims disseminated by this new industry."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kevin-a-s … 63046.html
And Saddam was your brother? and his sons? and the terrorists?
Nice family you have there.
Maybe they'll take you in.
You were leaving anyway.
Saddam is much more of a relationship with the Bush family. This love/hate thing gose back to Iran, Saddam loves to keep his oil and Bush co. hates him for that.
I get rid of my of negative relationships by walking away to set them free. If they come back to say sorry, we can reset and
be free again. I don't hunt them down and kill them.
I would see a hero in a truth warrior, who
aims for no harm. Do like bullies and it's better to confront them each time, then to have them run your life.
Why support bully groups who lie, steals and kills, then ask everyone to reward them. Then repeat the shame (same) thing back onto their own citizens. Where is the honor and deep truth in this. I aim to help you after many of you have hit rock bottom (not before) Your abustive puppet masters do not, know what they are doing. My imagination, love and not allowing no one to own me, diverified my survival.
For the next 10 years your owners do not care if you live or dead. Thank dog, nohey will have more of your souls as they will have you bow to your knees and follow their laws (not your rights). For they can steal, lie, murder and cheat beyond you God laws. You will dine in hell on earth.
I have lost the point of what you are trying to say.
War solves nothing. Green is almost everything.
Did war solve the nazi takeover? That of the Japanese? The Iraquii takeover of Kuwait?
I did say world war two was a just war in part. If it was'nt for those American banksters joining up with Nazi in world war 1 and 2. It was the closest we ever were totally owned by the greedy rich.
Iraq is a US corporation war with other groups sharing, by stealing, lying and
murdering again, this time over oil. Religion is great fuel for their fire of
delusion, another one world religion that
can not be won. The only thing bullies are good for, is keeping us on our toes.
Finally, thanks.
Said to be the greatest military commander of times
Alexander the Great.quoted
"War solves nothing"
wilderness you did not have to conquer most of the known world to figure that out. It took me traveling most of the known world to work that out.
Good for you.
All hail Emperor Hirohito!
No, wait. War solved that problem quite nicely, didn't it?
Oil dose not mix with water well or provides food for plants. Oil is good for war machines and making products for corporatism and lowering our life exspectany. I'm cheering for Iraq to win back their country and grow their own food again, like I saw it before the American invasion.
Good evening Quilligrapher, you're correct that there was widespread use of heroin in Vietnam. My cousin and my uncle in law both served in Vietnam in the 1960s and reported that many American troops used heroin and other hard drugs. I also read in periodicals that such was the case. That is why when so many troops returned, some had problems with substance abuse.
Thank you, Grace, for contributing your personal knowledge and your experiences with other published facts. It is good to know. I appreciate your adding to the discussion.
Hey, 70-80 million japs killed later, then ended with nuclear bomb. Hirohito warn them it would be self destructive.
Bush said 9/11 was the worst attack on America soil since Pearl harbor. Even though no Iraqi were on those planes. That's like if Japon attacks Pearl Habor,
then America attacks Indonesia.
Then Bush admits 9/11 could have been an inside job. The puppet masters can't hide their strings, even from their own puppets.
The Colorado weed experiment has been a great win-win across the board with a huge tax surplus. Crime has gone down and even teenage pot smokers have gone down by 22% . That beats the hell out of cops cash cow of killing or jailing a milliion Americans citizens a year.
Cop are very good at giving out Traffic tickets, where at catching muderers and theives not so good at. Making their jobs more to their liking of "serve and protect themselves" Making it less dangerious than many other jobs like fireman, security guards, taxi drivers and so on.
They are really good for the donut
business and protecting us from terrorist. I don't know anyone personally who has
been killed by a terrorist, so see!!! how well cops are doing. Even though cops
kill more of the public than they do.
Let's take 25% of world prisons in the US
reduce in to normal about 5% . Make more college dooms rather than cell
dooms. Ship all the 13% violent criminals
in prison right now to an island called murderica. There is cheap land on huge island to buy out there. Ship also other
trained killers along with high theift offenders to murderica. Reduce US military budget from 50% 0f the world's budget to 5% Making America the wealthest and healthest nation on earth.
Give those criminal some land and give it a chance to let them turn themselves into an Australia country.
And they call me Madd!!!
When I asked many many times, if anyone cares or finds it was wrong to allow a half a million Iraq children die over the war on oil. There has been no reply, as no one gives a dam, so if not one person has any heart to say a thing, I resign the Hub Pages with a F...uck YOOUUU. I make my films now, after 10 more years from now of greater suffering in your lack of freedom and love.Your wonder, how did he know this would happen.
Maybe hope for the ones who notice "War Solves nothing"
Because it already writen on the walls.
Castle, please don't be disingenuous. I replied several times about your claim, so evidently I do care. Unfortunately you refused to address my points.
He said, "I resign the Hub Pages with a F...uck YOOUUU."
I hope you won't miss him too much.
Well, did give you an E for effort. Without your soul/deep hearted opinion, I can not make heads or tales from stats and theories. I attempted to anwers your quests, yet without a means to an end or ideas for solution, I'm lost in space. Kinda like Religion is about sex and war. I come more from experience traveling in war zone destoryed countries. Warmonger US is still fighting in 74 wars right now. It a corporatism with no ethics or morales for humanity. They sell weapons, get other countries to fight each other, all for the purpose of destruction of man and most liveing creasures on earth since vietnam where their mission possible was to get
rid of 25% communist. Hitler tried that too and failed also. Without being open about it (Lie) they are tring to get rid of Muslim along with stealing their oil, and killing a half million children. You won't get to heaven if you break God's heart.
I hope you write a couple books.
Also it sounds like you could write a very interesting biography.
Meanwhile, let us know when your films are out.
And don't say F U to us any more, okay?
We are doing the best we can here.
And don't say you're leaving when you aren't.
Also, what the heck???
< "You won't get to heaven if you break God's heart.">
I hope you are not smoking too much weed.
Rant is not finished or the thread has not slowen down.
Remenber you said smart Boomers want to,boomb ISIS along with that a million more innocent middle eastern children. They make up imaginary enimies faster than they can kill. Big Brother has turned into Big Mother, yet claim they are just a brother world. The top voted country from worldwide other countries, voted US as the second greatest threat to mankind next to the natural enviorment. Must be the brother from Cain an Abel, still not obeying God's law of not killing rather than allowing God to sort them all out on which ones go to heaven or hell. All for greedy profiteers and Banksters, oh my God what would jesus say. Don't fight the entire world for your freedom , fight your own Government. There is more US homeless than public servant, if they can't strangle their own poor or snip them in the back, to get rid of ISIS (how cowardly)
When my magalomaniac ex wife stole my daughter for 10 years. When we reconnected, Paloma thought I abandon her, so she said to me F... you, then I knew she st to the ll care and a new freedom grew to she is now the love of my life .Now I know what a magolomaniac is like catholic Hitler, fundamentalist Christians or their adversary Satan, where the Unverse evoles around them. I work harder for my child than I would for myself, Imagine the process, of middle eastern children being killed or maimed for life. Children are living lives of horror, losing their parents and everything that is important to them and for their growth and development.
The US Government is top God right now. They in the Iraq and all over middle east for oil and money and power,A Just War doctrine is inherently immoral, as there is no place for ethics in war or any ethical theory in the Bible. War morality must always oppose deliberate violence, rather than restrain, like turn the other cheek. Normal rules of society morality goes out of the window. War theory is unrealistic, pointless and solves nothing....
War requires the banging of drums.
Religion, the ringing of bells.
War equates to Hate.
And (the science behind) Religion equates to Love.
I don't care about pot but could we please legalize the free ranged use of air-plane glue please !
Remember the fried egg demo on the film "Reefer Maddness".
Airplane glue will fried your brain like an egg in a frying pan, pot won't.
Although if you take too much POT, for too long a time, you may fade away as a middle age person living in your Mothers basement. You won't kill anyone because you can't even order a pizza right.
I do remember that commercial ! I also remember kids in the seventies doing this - now burned out totally .
Yes, the late 60 and 70s there was too many hard and experimental drugs. They started out with pleasure and turned into great pain.
Everything in moderation, alcohol is schedule 2 , and tobacco has no rating and both are far worst than weed which is schedule 1 meaning no medical or benifit use. That is the greatest lie along with terrorism these corporatism have ever brainwashed us into. Don't understand why anyone would want to follow the largest criminal organization in the world. I rather live and eat from a bumpster.
Also rather give blow jobs for my paycheques than to sell my soul to people who don't care if I live or die like those half a million children.
By the way never given JBs before, if an artist can find other ways to make a living, so can most people
...until we can deliver love for hate, there will be war.
We are an unperfected species.
Might as well accept it and deal with REALITY appropriately.
We have two different kinds of ultimate love.
My ultimate love is for the World with me in it, unconditionally.
Your ultimate love is Yahweh God, your love is conditional love, most of the world
is not saved unless through Jesus.
If I was a christian whole heartally
I would have to want to be world class.at saving people from going to hell than being world class at my art work. I would be like little Hitler stomping out gays, communist,
Muslims and most of the world who are
un christian like in order to win my grand lottery ticket into heaven, I must save as many souls as I can.
The science of religion could not make good sense in order to make love yet by war. By example 90% of wars are predominately religious countries. Not a a good honor or offering to your superior being and perfect God
If you see me giving JBs in bumpster to old men. I give you premission to shoot me with your gun because it will be a sign I have givn up on life.
I 've actually envison many people doing far worse things than this, as we allow these criminals to enslave us for on going 10 years.
The time it takes to complain, one could be doing/saying something truly constructive.
I know nobody likes a complainer. I''m giving hit on the head lesson with a slug hammer. To test my somtimes unbelieveible prediction that started since Vietnam to today. Where the cost of basic living has gone up ten times and wages not at all. It will excelerate much faster in the next ten years. It my job to be a messenger in these films to limit suffering. These two eco villages I'm building are the solution on all levels.
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