Question for serious conservatives ? Donald Trump for president ?

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   ahorsebackposted 5 years ago

   Okay so I'm a moderate -conservative ,  but are you people responsible for his popularity in the polls  ........serious ?    Can anyone else besides me   actually say  ".Donald trump ? Are you for real ?"
   This entire campaign  actually makes me want to have an attack of reverse peristalsis .  Here's my point , The entire future , the economic  health , of this  nation being  in trouble  probably ,depends of the next presidency or two  .  Or the entire office  of the executive branch has become an image and we no longer need it ?
   
   Rodney King ,if he were  intelligent , might really  have asked "Can't we all just get serious" ?

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      wba108@yahoo.composted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I agree, this election is too important to throw support for a man on an ego trip! He's flipped on practically every important issue and I have doubts about the integrity of his social conservative views.
      From what I've observed he's very intelligent, pragmatic and is a fighter but he seems to lack moral clarity and doesn't display the attitudes of a servant or that of a Christian. He's also a bomb thrower, so eventually one should explode on him but let's hope it doesn't also explode on the entire GOP.

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         ahorsebackposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         He's also been bankrupted three or four times and has absolutely no  written political policy o back up any of his vocal  dialog !

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      rhamsonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Trump is only feeding the exasperation the American voter feels. They are tired of the political double speak and PC treated renderings of these do nothings in Congress and the Presidency. It has enraged the voter and this is what you get. A tantrum on just about anything you can mention. He really has no answers and Congress will give him an education he never dreamed of if he should ever get that far. You have to admit the show is fascinating.
      
      He reminds me of Howard Stern. He says the most offensive and outrageous things for ratings. Why do you listen? You want to hear what he is going to say next.

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         ahorsebackposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         No , I don't hardly listen to him at all , Its just that I cannot believe the media is  giving him voice !   He is pure  jerk!

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            GA Andersonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            The media is giving him voice because their listeners want to hear it. I think rhamson got it right, (earlier comment), that many in the American public are fed up and Trump is talking to their frustration.
            
            Your opinion of Trump is only your opinion, and it appears there might be as many folks that disagree with you as there are ones that agree. Or else he wouldn't be maintaining the support he has.
            
            Your jerk is obviously someone else's answer.
            
            GA

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               ahorsebackposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               It's just plain sad though , given the seriousness of our leadership vacuum  In America .

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                  Live to Learnposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  I heard the former grand wizard of the KKK has endorsed Trump. I think that about sums up the mentality of the people backing him. It's a sad day in America and it appears we have many sad days ahead.

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                  rhamsonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Leadership in America has been for sale for years. When you look at the list of donors and now have hidden lists within the super PACS you can understand the leanings of our leaders and their decisions. This is our fault as long as we believe it doesn't exist or that a little bit of it exists. Senate politicians have to spend an average of 4 to 6 hours a day fundraising for their next election. How much time does that leave them to legislate. And when given the chance to raise a big chunk of it at one time freeing up some time to actually legislate something the donor has already made their decision for them. Until we take the money for governing out of the equation we will get very little responsive leadership.

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               wba108@yahoo.composted 5 years agoin reply to this

               The more I think and read about Trump the more I think conventional political science hasn't come to grips with the fact that Trump isn't likely to go away soon if ever. My earlier thoughts about Trump may have been wrong, the Trump candidacy is bigger than just him and his ego, people are fed up with two faced politicians who don't represent them. Now maybe Ben Carson can overtake Trump because he benefits from similar sentiments.

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                  rhamsonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  I don't know if your former opinion of Trump was wrong but he has the ear of the frustrated masses out there. Unfortunately even if he would be elected he would have to deal with the corruption that is our Congress. Until America wakes up to that mess and grows a gut to deal with it no real change for the better can happem.

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      Don Wposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      A sure fire way for Republicans to keep themselves out of the White House is to give Donald Trump the nomination. For that reason, the only thing any non-Republican should be saying right now is "Go Trump!"And any serious non-Republicans should be applying to join his campaign staff.  ;-)

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         Alternative Primeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Don W ~
         
         I think you have things a little backwards ~
         
         With all his Faults & Shortcomings, and although he is an EXTREME longshot to win the presidency, Donald Trump represents the absolute BEST chance the GOP has of gaining the White House ~
         
         The Progressive Media is SALIVATING at the thought of Jeb "Jed" Bush becoming the nominee, they know he's the WORST of the bunch and will be TOAST if he gets the nod ~ The rest of the republican pack are basically losers or mentally incompetent ~

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      Genna Eastposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Good question.  I think Trump is cagey, smart, and street-business savvy, but I wouldn't qualify him as being intelligent.  He's pulled some pretty shady deals in the past that aren't illegal, but are not at all ethical or moral and cost many vendors/customers a boatload of money.  There was the South Carolina bailout for his son's company and the bankruptcies of his casino interests in Atlantic City -- a city he helped to destroy.  He is still being sued for bilking people out of money over that phony "Trump University" scam.  And what about the many millions of dollars in tax dodges that cost other taxpayers?  Either directly, or indirectly, all of this came out of the very pockets of the supporters he is trying to woo.  I just don't understand why anyone would vote for this unabashed opportunist who is out for publicity, glory and fame.  If he makes it to the general, the opposition will have this fellow for breakfast.  He will lose quite a bit of money on this campaign...perhaps he'll try to get Mexico pay for it. :-)

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   ahorsebackposted 5 years ago

   I am afraid this all  speaks more to the mentality of voting Americans  .    Are we  even capable of the maturity required for upholding , maintaining ,  "We the people "?

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   PrettyPantherposted 5 years ago

   I agree that Donald Trump is voicing what many Americans believe and he is doing it without filters.  Some people find him to be refreshing.  However, I think you will realize, as time goes on, that more people find him to be boorish and incendiary and his policies to be simple-minded and foolish. 
   
   As an aside, those who find him "refreshing" need to do some serious soul-searching in my opinion.  Do you really want a guy like that anywhere near our military?  Ugh.  He makes Dubya look like a nuanced policy wonk.

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   Stacie Lposted 5 years ago

   Donald doesn't have the diplomatic skills to become the POTUS but perhaps he would make a good consultant to the cabinet....from his 5th Ave office that is.

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   Sed-meposted 5 years ago

   Never in a million years. My prayer is that he and Hillary have cancelled one another out.

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   ahorsebackposted 5 years ago

   Yeaa ! We  all agree !

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   colorfuloneposted 5 years ago

   Trump was predicted to be president in 2030 on The Simpsons in 2000.
   
   
   

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   colorfuloneposted 5 years ago

   This photo needs no explanation. 
   
   

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   IslandBitesposted 5 years ago

   He's a narcissistic airhead. He talks too much but says nothing. It's alarming that so many are willing to vote for him.

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    colorfuloneposted 5 years ago

    So many people do not care about the truth these days.  People actually hate The Truth, they would rather be fed a shovel full of BS then to have to listen to the truth. 
    
    I'm still researching the facts on this article.  It is a MUST READ. 
    http://mindcontrolblackassassins.com/tag/donald-trump/
    
    "Rudy Giuliani in drag and Prima Donna Donald Trump acting out as a paramour was no comedy routine, but a serious secret society ritual of public humiliation played out before your eyes where subordinate members or initiates engage in playful transsexual activities with certain male blood elitist members of the group."
    
    Here's the video with Rudy Giuliani in Drag and Donald Trump
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8

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    Alternative Primeposted 5 years ago

    Believe it or Not, Donald Trump is the only serious candidate the GOP has right now ~ The entire field is carrying more baggage than a one way American Airlines flight to Mars ~

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       Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

       What is Carson's "baggage?"

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          Alternative Primeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          I'm Laughing Kathryn ~
          
          It's pretty sad when you ask that question of ONLY 1 out 16 or 17 GOP CANDIDATES !! ---->
          
          Let me think, If he's a conservative, I'm sure he has plenty of Unclaimed Baggage ~

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          wba108@yahoo.composted 5 years agoin reply to this

          I think Carson is the best candidate. He's got most of trump's outsider appeal but he's a man of strong Christian Faith and values. He's kind of learning some of the issues on the campaign trail but it seems he's taking advise from the right people.

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             Kathryn L Hillposted 5 years agoin reply to this

             Thank You.

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             Alternative Primeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

             So in your opinion, Mr. Carson being Un-educated on Foreign Affairs / Policy / Conflicts & Economic Issues is not a major concern?
             
             Remember what happened the last time we had a "Trainee" in the White House? George W?

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                ahorsebackposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                And  I hope your not suggesting Obama  was vetted ?

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                   Alternative Primeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                   There is absolutely no comparison between Mr. Carson and one of the greatest Presidents in the history of this planet, President Obama ~
                   
                   President Obama was a Distinguished Senator who learned, and had first hand experience in Foriegn Policy, Budgetary Consideration, Political Fortitude, Procedure, etc. prior to taking office ~
                   
                   He also has extensive experience with local community development. training, and organization ~ Critically important skills to maintain a sound environment from which to build successful micro-communities ~
                   
                   Not to mention, he's an incredibly Brilliant Constitutional Lawyer ~
                   
                   And Ben Carson is a Doctor ~

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                      ahorsebackposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                      Okay , so now I truly understand the course of delusionary  politics?   "Obama the greatest president of this planet " , Pres.  Obama will become fully realized at the man  with the  greatest  potential power ,who "could " have changed America   and didn't . And that's about all he will be known for .

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                         Alternative Primeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                         ahorseback ~
                         
                         You read my comments like you, wilderness, and a few others apparently read the 2cnd Amendment ~ With little regard for accuracy nor comprehension ~
                         
                         I did NOT say "President Obama is the greatest of this planet", that's what you said ~ I said President Obama is "ONE of the Greatest Presidents in the history of this planet" ~  There's a PROFOUND difference between the two ~
                         
                         The rest of what you said will of course be true in that Time & Space occupied by Jeb, Sean, Bill, Ann, Rush in "Backward Conservative Fantasyland" ~ A place where modern conviences are rejected in favor of "Outhouses" and brilliant choices like "Home Schooling" ~ ---->

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                            colorfuloneposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                            This is a thread about Donald Trump, and has gotten way off topic beginning Obama into the discussion but I guess I expected he would be glorified at some point. 
                            
                            All I have say about him is that, a federal court judge blocked President Obama's illegal action in February for protection of undocumented immigrants from deportation ruling that he “is not just rewriting the laws, he is creating them from scratch.”
                            
                            Obama, clearly violated the Constitution with his lawless Executive action on immigration.  He broke the law and he seems to think he is above the law.

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                               Alternative Primeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                               colorfulone ~
                               
                               I would have to assume you are of the conservative breed, once again you have failed to recognize a material fact that I was not the person who initiated the "Carson" & "Obama" conversations, I was simply responding to those who did indeed start the "Talk" in an effort to get them back on the right track ~
                               
                               Maybe you should direct your accusatory comment toward the direction of both "wba108@yahoo.com" who injected Mr. Carson, and "ahorseback" who injected President Obama ~
                               
                               P.S. ~ If you think President Obama violated a law then why have I not seen your conservative representatives like Mitch McConnell or John "I Cry A Lot" Boehner prosecute him? You know they are salivating to perform this act along with practicing the only thing they know how to do "Obstructionism" ~

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                                  colorfuloneposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                  Wow!  I guess things really are a matter of perception. 

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                                     Alternative Primeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                     There's "Perception & Imagination", and then there's "Reality", I subscribe to the latter ~

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          colorfuloneposted 5 years agoin reply to this

          I like Carson, I get a sense of peace when he talks, and he is very intelligent. 
          
          He talked about the US debt that is on the books. Then, explained that the actual debt is more like $211 trillion (Fiscal Debt). Forbes published an article titled "17 Nobel Laureates and 1200+ Economists Agree with Ben Carson re U.S. Fiscal Gap".  He figured that out on his own. 
          
          His IQ has been estimated at about 128. 
          He certainly is not a clown like GWB (with maybe an IQ level of 85).

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             ahorsebackposted 5 years agoin reply to this

             I like Ben Carson  a lot ,   but our useless congress would destroy his good intentions !

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