America already had trust issues with Clinton after the e-mail server. Comey basically called her out and told us she lied to our faces on that one. One server - not. Never shared classified e-mails - she surely did.
Then you've got proof that the Democratic National Committee basically rigged the primary in her favor. Likely voter fraud in California on top of it.
And with all these issues, she gives Wasserman Schultz a spot within her committee after she has to resign in disgrace amidst the corruption. That's like telling the American people that she just doesn't care if we know how dishonest she is.
To me, that was a final nail in her already full-of-nails coffin. I liked Bernie. I thought he had integrity. But I was willing to vote for Hillary because the platform of the Democrats mirrored my own values of inclusion and environmentalism a bit more than the GOP platform.
But after this obvious spate of dishonesty and corruption, I'm not sure I can do it in good conscience. Any one else feeling this way too?
The whole thing is a Ugly fairytale anyways, like your pictures.
I don't go by honest elections anymore. It would be a selection and with a Hillary setup, it seems to suit new world order best.
Too many of us ignore the man behind the curtain pulling most of the strings to these stuffed sausage puppets.
Here is what 'they' don't want you to know.
The movie titled "Hillary's America" crashed to the Top 10.
May go see it,
It can't be scary as Moore -9/11, she is not elected yet.
There are discerning Liberals who based upon the e-mails & now the DNC unethical rigging to ascertain Clinton's political preeminence, won't vote for her because it has been proven that if she is unethical in obtaining her presidency, she will be even more unethical as President of the United States. Discerning Liberals believe that the presidency is an office for which there should be a high level of being trustworthy & ethical. They believe that a vote for Clinton would be a vote for an unscrupulous, unethical, & untrustworthy President.
However, there are hard line Liberals who will adamantly refuse to acknowledge the e-mail & the rigging. They will strongly proclaim that Clinton is the right choice for president because she has political experience & fight for the rights of the underdog. They even avow that no matter what Clinton did is nothing compared to what Trump has done. They view Clinton as a far better person than Trump will ever be. They contend that a vote for Trump would be regressive for America in terms of women's & minority rights.
There are those who solidly believe that as evil as Clinton is, she is less evil than Trump. They maintain that although Clinton had the e-mail & rigging scandals, she is far better choice as President than Trump who they view as a fascist, racist demagogue a la Hitler who panders to the worst element. In essence, they view Clinton as the most viable presidential choice.
I am not pleased with the way Clinton handles things. But, Trump's race baiting and sowing seeds of division among us in addition to his less than ethical practices in his realm of the private sector, makes him even more of a persona non grata for me.
LOL. Except for the race baiting accusation that describes Hillary too.
It's a fine pickle we find ourselves in.
True about Hillary and her pandering. But, Trump brings that concern up by exponential proportions just seeing what are the themes in his campaign.
Keep telling yourself that if it helps you feel better about voting for that piece of work.
I keep circling back to the Wikileaks e-mails and the talk about another batch "coming soon." I think that we may see some tomorrow just as a way to stop any convention bounce and to show Hillary's speech talking points as fabrications. There are a lot of people who truly loath that woman and Julian Assange is one of them.
Last night at the convention , Hillary police were removing Bernie's voter signs and threatening credential loss for today's vote at the convention ! Does that bother the democrats ?
No,, apparently not ----- It's "the Russians are coming the Russians are coming " ?
Wait,... Bernie supports Hillary, but Cruz dose not with Trump. Maybe Trump's all burning bridges and building walls is catching up on him.
Cruz was a Bush operative, in Goldman Sachs' pocket, etc. Ted got bood off the stage at the RCN convention. His wife Heidi had to be escorted out of the convention by security because the crowd was chanting "Goldman Sachs" at her. The Cruz name are pretty much mud. Lying Ted Cruz!
This is my last political post until January 2016 because I give up arguing the same points over and over again with folks who do not want to change one iota of their already fully formed opinions. No fact. No verdict. No evidence will make a dent in the fortress they've built. So I'm leaving them to their closed minds. I'll be back in January.
Geez, Kathryn, what did we do? The forum world be less intersting without your imput.
LOL. I would assume you are arguing in defense of your firmly held opinions that can't be changed one iota.
Thank you - folks who read me all the time. I'm touched by your support. You write this stuff with no idea if you are making an impact or not. Thanks.
For the record, things I've recently changed my mind about:
Abortion
Gay Marriage
The Fair Tax
Voter ID Laws
Legalizing Marijiuana
Balancing the Supreme Court
Sending troops to Syria
Term Limits
Enlarging our military
I'm sure there are others if I think on it a while.
The political forums can be a rough place, but I do believe many people pay attention to who is rational, fair, accurate and honest.
I have great respect for those who consistently are and little patience for those who consistently are not.
If you have learn this much, it seems you are better to stay. Unless you are too busy with other stuff.
I would like to hear your take on these topics that you list...
I would beg to differ. If you are arguing in defense of something then you believe it to be true.
Unfortunately, political opinions are based on many factors. We can have the same data but arrive at different conclusions because our goals are not the same.
It doesn't make anyone completely right or wrong. We see Hillary supporters glossing over all manner of atrocities, while bashing Trump. And vice versa. We believe what we believe, no matter the facts others deem to be important.
But, that is the challenge, it may be an exercise in futility, but we all have the opportunity to form out and expressed our opinions well. I have been known to change a minor line of thinking and opinion I have held as a result of well presented arguments by right-wingers. People can be moved, ideas exchanged and opinions changed. It is not impossible. That is where the fun comes in, sure beats sitting around watching the grass grow.
I agree. But if you are going to whine about firmly held beliefs not changing to agree with you it does appear to be either naive, hypocritical or worse.
Actually it's a historical moment for the DNC. I hope Hillary gives a shout out to all her "taco bowl" supporters.
So glad to see that the Democrats are always the moral compass when it comes to race relations.
Oh you didn't hear? The DNC has been referring to their Mexican voters.
Yea, apparently eating a taco salad on Cinco De Mayo is racist if you are a conservative.
But DNC reps saying this; "Hi Everyone, Attached is a script for a new video we'd like to use to mop up some more taco bowl engagement, and demonstrate the Trump actually isn't trying" is perfectly fine.
Trump's failed attempt to publicly appeal to Hispanics pales in comparison to DNC reps referring to Mexicans as "taco bowl" voters in secret.
Now that the hidden truth has been leaked, let the back peddling begin.
They were ridiculing Trump. Clearly, you didn't get it.
They were ridiculing Trump and Hispanics. Peddle faster.
Trump is hard on immigrants, yet all his wives are immigrants. Then mamy of his products are made in China.
Being a good example, works best.
Haven't heard that Trump is hard on immigrants. Only citizens of foreign countries that are in the country illegally.
I have never seen a big public specker anywhere down and degrade non whites in my life. Trumpet keeps saying Latino immigrants are rapist, Latino immigrants are criminal and so on and on. He misses way too often saying illegal immigrants or illegal aliens.
Then the Muslim, I heard him speak at APAC most humiliating speech I have ever heard anywhere in my life.
Then he blames black and Latinos for the crimes across America. He didn't mention 95â„… of crimes are occupational.
Let's see who the Hispanic voters will find more offensive, the Democrats or Trump and the GOP? The proof will be in the pudding this fall and Trump just might find that the joke is on him....
It always falls back on the basic human fears ,With Hillary , will you feel safe , terrorism? Will you feel economically secure , the economy ? Does she reflect your values , what a liar ? This may once again be about the soccer mom factor . The Taco bowl ? The taco bowl is just one more a$$ that Hillary kisses for a few votes.
She has had time to change anything in the The V.A. too ? Her speech was so emotional -yet , what a fake ! She and her husband are one of the greatest CAUSES of pi$$ poor V.A. care ! She has had 30 years to do something....anything about VA,care . The economy , security . But people will continue to look through the truth to the perfect lies .
For twenty somethings' - they are blind - for the rest of you , there's no excuse .
If anyone under forty actually read a paper , studied history , accounted for their own voting responsibilities , actually kept up on current events and studied the political history and continuity of Hillary , Obama and the absolute rhetorical genius of the left - They would instantly become conservative !
This political animal is the epitome of all political falsehoods.
Now that Hillary is slipping, it has become a danger zone for Trump with a higher likelihood of an attempted assassination. He is one brave man!
That's what makes me the sickest about politicians. They talk out of both sides of their mouths and act as if no one notices the lies.
Hillary , Obama , the DNC and every member of the GOP as well . Until America awakens to the slime factor of all government , local to federal ; We will all continue down his road of disaster called the political highway ! I have more than once suggested that senate and congress be run by a jury pool of regular citizens instead of career midgets of the mind , and been criticized for my naiveté and told that that would lower the qualities of leadership ,...........My point , Who are the naive ones now ?
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