Should We Ban Muslims, Gay People and Reinstitute Slavery?

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   Sychophantasticposted 7 years ago

   According to a recent CBS News poll:
   
   75% of Republicans support banning Muslims from the country
   
   According to a recent APPP poll:
   
   33% of Republicans support banning gays and lesbians from the country
   20% of Republicans said that Lincoln should not have freed the slaves
   
   What do you make of these results?

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      Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Well there is 15 times more Muslim than America Republicans in the world.
      That vote would be cancelled in a true democracy.
      
      About 8 times more gays in the world than Americans Republicans. No contest.
      
      Most Americans are already living in economics slavery.

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      ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Your first problem is listening to CBS news polls . Second , you probably believe this rhetoric anyway so , why ask why ?    After all  none of it s true !

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         Sychophantasticposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         These are two different polls. So basically, if you don't agree with the information or feel it's not correct, then you conclude it's not true? Same with climate change, I presume? What should I listen to? Breitbart? Drudge report? I don't know the exact methodology of the polling, but I presume they asked a particular question and got a particular answer.

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            Sychophantasticposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Incidentally, what percentage of convention Republicans do you think support banning all Muslims from the country?

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         Sychophantasticposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Here are some other polls supporting the CBS poll:
         
         http://thehill.com/policy/defense/27452 … muslim-ban
         
         http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ … muslim_ban
         
         http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/07/ … rder-wall/

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            wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            You do realize that polling a small geograpahical area does not represent the country?  And that your other two links do not support the statement that "75% of Republicans support banning Muslims from the country"?

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               Sychophantasticposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               So you don't buy the CBS poll either? The others just support the assumption of the first that a large number of Republicans support the notion.

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                  wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  The poll may be right or it may not - what I said is that none of them support your wild claims.  And they don't.
                  
                  One is about ONLY Texans (from both parties), and the other two about stopping immigration by Muslims, not banning them from the country.
                  
                  It might pay you to actually read and understand the polls before you draw wild conclusions from ones that don't say what you claim they do.

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                     Sychophantasticposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     We're having a disconnect. I was just using links to support the Muslim ban part.
                     
                     The first link says clearly "half of Americans support the ban. 71% of Republicans support it and 84% of Trump supporters do."
                     
                     The second link says 67% of all Republicans support a temporary ban.
                     
                     The third link says that 53% of Texas registered voters support the ban. I really just used that one to show that Brietbart had something related to what the CBS poll was saying.

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                        wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        No they don't.  They mention a temporary halt to Muslim immigration, though - do you think banning all muslims (including American citizens that are Muslim) is the same as a temporary halt to Muslims immigrating to the country?
                        
                        You might ask some of those Muslim citizens if THEY think it is the same....

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                     Sychophantasticposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     Here's a poll that suggests one in five South Carolina Republicans supports banning homosexuals from the country:
                     
                     http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/ … errifying/
                     
                     The response to my original question was basically "oh, that's not true". I'm just providing very easy evidence that there's plenty out there to corroborate the first poll results. Unless you believe that nothing is true unless you believe it to be true and then it's pretty much impossible on any subject to provide any evidence that's at all convincing.

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                        Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        There are 80 countries where homosexually is illegal, making it seem plausible.
                        
                        Yet I think it unstoppable and stupid to try to stop other kinds love relationships. Just because of the Bible's unsure thoughts about gays, yet not  Constitutionally right to do so..

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                        wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        You do understand that if you carefully choose the right group that a poll will show anything you wish it to?  Bet if you stay to the western side of SC and out of any city over 10,000 you could raise the figure to at least 5 of 10.  And if you cherry picked only the ones you wish to hear from it could go as high as 10 out of 10.
                        
                        And if you limited it to Democrats found in the same locale you'd get the same results.  Or, if you set the parameters to Republicans that are not Christians, 0 of 10 - did it occur to you that you're checking predominately radical Christians that vote Republican?  Maybe the problem is Christianity, not conservatism.

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                     Sychophantasticposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     I did find this poll from a right-wing site:
                     
                     http://redstatewatcher.com/poll.asp?id=570

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               Sychophantasticposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               I do recognize that we are probably talking about support of a temporary ban. It's unclear whether the poll was asking about permanently banning muslims.

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                  wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  From your links:
                  
                  "A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 67% of Likely Republican Voters favor a temporary ban on all Muslims entering the United States until the federal government improves its ability to screen out potential terrorists from coming here."
                  
                  "A new poll shows that 50 percent of all American voters support a temporary ban on Muslims traveling to the U.S. — an idea originally proposed by GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump.  " (Temporary, then, until proper vetting as proposed by Trump)
                  
                  "The Texas Tribune/University of Texas poll finds that 53 percent of Texas’ registered voters claim to “somewhat” or “strongly support” Trump’s proposal to ban non-U.S. citizen Muslims from entering the country. " (Temporary, then, until proper vetting as proposed by Trump)
                  
                  So all three were about a temporary ban on Muslim immigration and travel only - those that are American citizens are welcome to stay.  A very far cry from what you claimed - did you read the articles before posting that all Muslims were to be banned and deported?

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                     Sychophantasticposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     Yes, temporary ban. You're right though, this was badly worded and ill-conceived. I asked Hubpages to take it down as misleading. I've posted another forum topic that is way more specific and hopefully fair. My apologies.

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               Setank Setunkposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               You are wasting your time Wilderness. These two are Liberal Trolls nothing more.

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                  ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Liberal trolls !   Is right , all bans proposed by Trump ARE temporary , THAT HAS BEEN CLEARLY STATED FROM THE BEGINNING . The more I learn about these  extreme liberals  , the more I realize THEY are the ones who should be banned !
                  
                  LIBERALS ARE NEVER INTERESTED IN ANY CURES , THIER ONLY INTEREST IS  PERSONAL ATTENTION !

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      Setank Setunkposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Typical Liberal lies and hate mongering. You should be barred from publishing here.

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         Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         When America invaded almost 7 countries in 7 years who is doing the hate mongering. I don't care about politicians, it's the Israel projects pulling the strings and brainwashing Americans multi media.
         
         Deep down most Americans don't want war.

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         Sychophantasticposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Very Trump of you:
         
         1. Deny the problem
         2. Accuse the other side of the thing you are being accused of
         3. Attack

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         Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Not banned. The threads started by this Hubber are so childish and ridiculous no adult could take him seriously. He's funny.

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            Sychophantasticposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            It's 75% of Republicans in South Carolina want Muslims banned from the country.
            
            And is it so far-fetched to think that many Republicans would like to see homosexuals banned from the country? Some evangelicals talk about exterminating them. And the Republican platform contains lots of anti-LBGQT language. I guess I could assert that Republicans hate gay people, but perhaps it's more fair to say that they generally do not want them to have equal rights under the law.

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      Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I think NBC takes some ignorant polls and probably more than a few people saw it as such and answered a stupid question with a stupid answer. I would have. Why take such nonsense seriously?

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         Sychophantasticposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Oh, I don't know. Because their presidential nominee supports it?

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            Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            NBC's presidential nominee? Supports what? Polls or slavery?

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               Sychophantasticposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               The Republican nominee supports banning Muslims.

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                  Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  So, there are people who support banning muslims. I know people who support it. I understand their position. I respect it, just don't agree with it.
                  
                  Think about it. Say we end up with massive, wanton violence by independent terrorist cells and lone malcontents. What do you think will happen to our civil liberties and our freedom? In order to maintain order, in such a scenario our society will have to go into virtual marshall law.
                  
                  I can't turn my back on my values but I can see their point. Their fears are not unwarranted or unfounded.

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                     Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     True, fear of Muslims is unwarranted and unfounded.
                     
                     Just stop invading the Middle east and all will be find.

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                        Live to Learnposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        Your two statements seem to be slightly at odds.

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                           Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           When America military throws up red flags all around the world and Funds it and guns ISSI.
                           To create the wars they want in order to own the World.
                           Nothing to do about humanity aids or Muslim attacks on the US.

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                  wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Proof, please, that Trump would ban all Muslims?

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                     Sychophantasticposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-rele … mmigration
                     
                     ...from entering the U.S.
                     
                     https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/vid … e-us-video

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                     Sychophantasticposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     Nope, you're right. I misread the original data. The CBS exit poll was in South Carolina where 75% of respondents supported banning Muslims from the country entirely. They're nuts in SC. Still, pretty scary.
                     
                     The poll results about homosexuals though was among Trump supporters. So, my bad there. Definitely too quick to see what I wanted to see.
                     
                     That said, the results still suggest a very disturbing trend.

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                        Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        It was shocking when Trump went 10℅ higher in the polls when he bans Muslim from coming into the Country.

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