The 2024 Presidential Election

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  1. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 7 weeks ago

    I am sure many are going to disagree, but I predict Vice President Kamala Harris will win - by a lot!

    That is a feeling, not backed up by polling.  The polling leans toward he winning - by a little as well as flipping the House and a slim chance of keeping the Senate.

    1. My Esoteric profile image84
      My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      What impact is RFK Jr, dropping out going to have?  It Depends.  I just looked over the last several RCP polls and found his impact is all over the map.

      General Election favors Harris

      PA favors Harris

      AZ favors Trump

      NV favors Trump

      NC favors Harris

      MI favors neither

    2. My Esoteric profile image84
      My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Speaking of the Senate, it is not looking good at all even though CNN has Texas in play.  Also, based on the latest polls, I would tentatively put Florida in play as well.

      With WV gone to the Republicans, they only need to pick up one more seat net to gain the majority 51 - 49, preventing the Democratic VP from breaking any ties.

      At the moment, Tester from MT seems like a goner.  The rest of the Democratic seats on CNNs list seem solid.

      Texas - Of the last three polls from July, Alfred was within 2 or 3 points of, well within the margin of error, and the third poll was a blow out for Cruz at  +10.  Again, going for Allred is the draconian abortion ban in Texas and changing demographics. Going against him is Abbot keeps trying to change the election laws to favor Republicans.


      Florida - Based on the last three polls from June to Aug, the race is a statistical tie. In all three polls, Cortez was down, but within the margin of error.  The two things going for her is the extremely strict abortion ban in Florida and the reenergized Florida Democratic Party.

      https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/25/politics … index.html

    3. My Esoteric profile image84
      My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Will Black Joy propel Harris over the top?  Many think so.  It may also help pick up North Carolina and Georgia.

      While Biden was still popular among Black voters, he was clearly generating little enthusiasm.  Kamala Harris turned that on its head.

      https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/25/politics … index.html

    4. MizBejabbers profile image92
      MizBejabbersposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      I think you may be right. It is the silent majority who probably will win this election for Kamala. A lot of folks don't express their feelings publicly because they don't want to receive the hateful blowback from the Republicans. We will see how successful the Trumpers are at suppressing the votes of the silent majority.

      1. Ken Burgess profile image70
        Ken Burgessposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

        "A lot of folks don't express their feelings publicly because they don't want to receive the hateful blowback from the Republicans."

        Interesting perspective.  That quote above reminded me of this:

        Democrat activist who volunteered at the DNC - the Democratic Party
        https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1827807370254447055

        It is worth listening to... its real... it gets the heart of very point I so often made to Credence in our many debates.

        1. gmwilliams profile image83
          gmwilliamsposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          Many gravitate towards Harris mainly because of the Project 2025 hyperbole & most of all, the abortion issue.   Those many are totally oblivious to the issue of illegals flooding America taxing already overextended American resources,  & the rising crime as a result of liberal laxity among other things.  They are sheeple to the slaughter.   America will be ruined if Kamala Harris becomes president.   I can see through this.

          1. My Esoteric profile image84
            My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

            How does your view stack up against the Facts:

            CRIME - "The new numbers show violent crime from January to March dropped 15.2% compared to the same period in 2023, while murders [/b]fell[/b] 26.4% and reported rapes decreased by 25.7%. Aggravated assaults decreased during that period when compared to last year by 12.5%, according to the data, while robberies fell 17.8%. Jun 10, 2024"

            https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/10/us/us-vi … index.html

            RESOURCES: "The Bigger Picture

            ITEP’s estimates, and those of other researchers, should be kept in mind as policymakers debate how best to deal with the millions of undocumented immigrants who now live in the United States. In spite of their undocumented status, these immigrants-----and their family members-----are adding value to the U.S. economy, not only as taxpayers, but as workers, consumers, and entrepreneurs as well.  If they had legal status, they would contribute even more. On the other hand, one of the alternatives being discussed in some circles-----
            mass deportation-----would be very a costly and economically self-destructive blunder, not to mention a humanitarian catastrophe."


            https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil. … grants.pdf

            When Harris is elected, America will keep on getting better as it has under Biden.

            I think most voters understand this reality.

          2. Ken Burgess profile image70
            Ken Burgessposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

            As I say, the people behind the curtains, are using a wealth of information learned through countless prior elections and off the books experiments on how to manipulate the masses/populace used by the CIA in foreign countries.

            Feelings over facts...

            Never mind Project 2025... that is a pipedream.

            UN/WEF Agenda 2030... that is well under way and has been implemented in a variety of ways during the Biden Administration, it will continue and compound during the Harris Administration.

            This election has already been decided... it is up to the media to convince the majority of Americans between now and election night that it is legit, and that Harris is that popular and has that much support.

            I think it is likely we will have a suppression of posts and commentary by anyone who questions the legitimacy of the election... they had to accept a limited amount of unrest after 2020... this time they are the ones sitting in the EO, they will clamp down on it immediately and arrest all protestors in 2024.

            Done deal... then they can focus on getting serious about transforming America right after the election is over... no more kids' gloves, no more election to worry about.

            In all seriousness, Harris is going to 'win' the election.

            She will be more popular with women at this time, than Clinton or Biden ever were.

            The ability to sell her as a candidate of 'Hope and Change' is going to work.

            The effort to tattoo Trump with racist, sexist, old, ogrish identifiers over the course of a decade will have its impact.

            And then... they control so much of the media and the election process... sure it is unlikely they will win in FL or OH... but they don't need those States, and they know that.

            1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
              Kathryn L Hillposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

              Man, I hope you are wrong.

              1. Ken Burgess profile image70
                Ken Burgessposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

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                1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
                  Kathryn L Hillposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                  Yes, like its out of our hands.

                  Darn!

                  1. Ken Burgess profile image70
                    Ken Burgessposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                    Just be ready to see a whole lot of this for the next four years smile

                    https://x.com/amuse/status/1828091246734393783

              2. My Esoteric profile image84
                My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                Have you ever known a conspiracy theorist to be right?

                1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
                  Kathryn L Hillposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                  Yes.

                  1. My Esoteric profile image84
                    My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                    Who

  2. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 7 weeks ago

    I will start out with Harris' first win, which is surely to drive Trump crazier than he already is given his obsession with crowd sizes.   

    In terms of total viewership, the DNC clobbered the RNC convention over the 4 days.  Worse for Trump is that 400,000 more people watched her acceptance speech than his.

    https://www.cnn.com/kamala-harris-dnc-r … index.html

  3. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 7 weeks ago

    I'll start out with my pre-convention assessment since no polls have come in that include the DNC convention. (The * means I made adjustments to account for the type of sample it was where Likely Voters gets more weight than Registered Voters and the Polls Accuracy based on 538s assessment. If there is no *, then I only adjusted for type of sample)

    General Election:Harris UP by 1.3.

    Arizona: Harris DOWN by 0.1*. Inside the margin of error.

    Florida: Harris DOWN by 5.0. Outside the margin of error.

    Georgia: Harris DOWN by 3.3*. Outside the margin of error.

    Michigan: Harris UP by 1.6*. Inside the margin of error.

    North Carolina: Harris DOWN by 0.2. Inside the margin of error.

    Nevada/b]: Harris DOWN by 2.7*. Inside the margin of error.

    [b]Pennsylvania
    : Harris EVEN by 0.0*. Inside the margin of error.

    Virginia: Harris UP by 4.0. Inside the margin of error. Only two polls.

    Wisconsin: Harris UP by 1.0*. Inside the margin of error.

    Harris has the wind at her back right now which is why I give her a Lean to Winning.

  4. Kathleen Cochran profile image75
    Kathleen Cochranposted 7 weeks ago

    The Cook Political Report

    2016 Trump got 3 million fewer votes.
    2020 Trump got 7 million fewer votes.
    If the trend continues in 2024, Trump will get 15 million fewer votes.

    1. My Esoteric profile image84
      My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Good point.

  5. Kathleen Cochran profile image75
    Kathleen Cochranposted 7 weeks ago

    WV might as well go Republican. Manchin as a Democrat did more to keep anything from passing legislation as any Republican.

    1. My Esoteric profile image84
      My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      I can understand why you think so, but I think he caused them as much heartburn as he caused the Democrats.

  6. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 7 weeks ago

    Well, Trump just told us what to expect in his "debate" with Kamala Harris - 90 minutes of lies and no substance or policy.

    He people are telling reporters that:

    "The “policy discussions” — the Trump campaign’s version of debate prep — largely mirror the sessions the former president held in the weeks leading up to his June 27 debate with Biden, sources familiar with the meetings told CNN.

    “It won’t be any different this time around. It worked well for him last time. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it,” a Trump adviser said.

  7. Kathleen Cochran profile image75
    Kathleen Cochranposted 7 weeks ago

    MizBejabbers: You make a valid point. Polls aren't votes. It is one thing to answer a poll and quite another to make a selection on a ballot with nobody watching or ever knowing. My Georgia county (a traditional hotbed of conservatism) has gone against Trump twice now. I think a lot of good people, when it comes right down to it, just can't bring themselves to vote for him.

    Unfortunately, our state board of elections (GOP majority) are taking a variety of steps to eventually throw the election into the House of Representatives. It will be interesting.

  8. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 7 weeks ago

    The first poll I saw that covers the DNC convention was Morning Consult; it had Harris up 4 points. But that seems to be in the range of previous samples they took.

    I have averaged all the relevant polls since July and Harris is up by 1.5 points.  That is OUTSIDE the margin of error given the total number sampled.  I'll begin the count again with September polling.

  9. Valeant profile image77
    Valeantposted 7 weeks ago

    Think Trump being re-indicted in DC will cut into his numbers?

    https://news.yahoo.com/news/smith-files … 30237.html

    1. My Esoteric profile image84
      My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Not really.  The brainwashed will remain loyal. 

      That said, I have been impressed with how Harris has pulled it together.

      I feel sorry for Biden, he is a good and honest man who has done so much good for America and didn't deserve what happened to him.  But, I have come to realize that people were not going to forgive nor trust him after that debate performance. 

      Personally, I understand very well what happened that night, especially as more facts came out.  But, by and large, people operate off their emotions and not reason; which makes our founders very sad indeed.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
        Kathryn L Hillposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

        Our founding fathers are rolling over in their graves at the total lack of regard for the Constitution they worked so hard for.

        Trump followed the Constitution when he was in office and he will do so when he comes back. Which he will come back.

        1. My Esoteric profile image84
          My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          Seems to me Trump did the opposite of following the Constitution when he was in office.  Didn't he say he wanted to do away with the parts that got in his way?

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
            Kathryn L Hillposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

            No. Trump respects checks and balances.

            1. Valeant profile image77
              Valeantposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

              Personal checks made out to him and increased bank account balances from the funds of his supporters.

              1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
                Kathryn L Hillposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                Your suspicion of his pure intention to Make America Great Again is apparent.
                You cannot see that his marketing genius can be used for the good of all.
                That is his intention.

                1. My Esoteric profile image84
                  My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                  Marketing Genius??  Well, OK, I'll give you that, but he clearly does not use it for the "good of all".  It is used ONLY for the "good of him".

                  As a businessman, he really sucks.  The ONLY reason he has kept his money is his ability to market his name.  All his serious businesses either went belly-up or are deeply in debt.

                  Steve Jobs is a good businessman.  Trump is no Steve Jobs.

            2. My Esoteric profile image84
              My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

              You are just being sarcastic, aren't you?

    2. Kathleen Cochran profile image75
      Kathleen Cochranposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

      Valeant: Thirty-four felony convictions didn't make a dent.

      Think about it. President Clinton went through an impeachment trial for lying about sex. Thirty-four felony convictions, and some could not care less.

      1. Valeant profile image77
        Valeantposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

        And they wonder why we call it a cult...

  10. Valeant profile image77
    Valeantposted 7 weeks ago

    His intention is to grift off his gullible supporters.  And they are all too willing to allow him to do just that.

    1. My Esoteric profile image84
      My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      His whole adult history is conning people, including those he lied to get to vote for him, getting sued for it and then settling those suits with NDAs so that nobody can find out how much money he paid to stay out of trouble.

      And now, he is stealing there money to pay his legal fees defending against his criminal conduct.

      1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
        Kathryn L Hillposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

        Why do you suspect that Trump is the kind of guy who cons and steals from people, including his supporters, and settles suits with NDAs?

        BTW He had to resort to a NDA because Stormy was just so ruthless.

        1. My Esoteric profile image84
          My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          I don't "suspect", I know. How do I know? From all the lawsuits by people he conned that he settled with NDA agreements - every one had one as they normally do.

          One criminologist who wrote a book on Trump called (and proved) him the Houdini of White-collar Crime - https://criminal-justice.ecu.edu/wp-con … k-Book.pdf

          I hope you donate to him because "Who but Trump has openly turned a presidential campaign political action committee into a money machine to pay his legal bills?" - https://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/ … n-history/

          As to his history, well there is this - https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics … mp-corrupt

          1. wilderness profile image95
            wildernessposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

            You "know" it because people filed suit.

            Can I borrow your crystal ball?  I need the next lottery numbers, please.  And where Jesus went after coming back to life.

            1. My Esoteric profile image84
              My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

              Even if you can't, I can draw reasonable conclusions from known facts.  No crystal ball needed.

        2. Kathleen Cochran profile image75
          Kathleen Cochranposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          Why, Kathryn? Because of the facts.

    2. Ken Burgess profile image70
      Ken Burgessposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      And what is the difference between Trump doing this and all the other politicians that lie, cheat, and grift the American people?

      Trump is no saint, not at all.  But is he trying to destroy the Nation?

      Harris to her credit is making the best of a bad situation, is really trying to stay positive and put an upbeat spin on things.

      I can understand why many women will vote for Harris, if their priority is restoring Abortion rights to their fullest, or if they really want America to become a nation with strict restrictions on weapon ownership, it makes sense to vote for Harris.

      Two issues that ultimately will tilt this election in Harris' favor.

      Survey: 3 in 4 reproductive age women in the US think abortion should be legal
      https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/aborti … d-be-legal

      Most women oppose leaving abortion laws to the states, across party lines: Poll
      https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4 … ines-poll/

      85 percent of American voters think abortion should be legal in some or all circumstances
      https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics … -americans

      There are other factors, but this is the big one that will draw more women voters to go for Harris than went for Clinton or Biden.

      Remember this, when Clinton was running there was no sense that Abortion was an issue in question.  It had been legal for so long few, if any people, were putting it as the primary reason why they were voting for someone.

      In 2024 there are going to be a LOT of women who have Abortion as their primary issue.  And I believe there are a substantial amount of women who are against weapons.

      Together, we will end gun violence
      https://momsdemandaction.org/

      Yes, the economy is bad, inflation and interest rates have been brutal compared to what they were a few years back... but I don't believe most women prioritize that over some of the other issues they consider of higher priority.

      Trump will win the majority of men's votes, he will get more black and hispanic votes than any Republican candidate in history probably.

      But there are more women voters than men voters.

      And the percentage of women voting for Harris will be at a record breaking percentage.  Because of what they prioritize.... and it helps that Trump has been villainized and labeled a rapist for years now.

      If it ends up being 60% of women vote for Harris and 60% of men vote for Trump I would not at all be surprised.

      But women make up at least 52% of voters.

      So... there you go, a Harris win.

      It will take a disaster by Harris to change that.

      Which is why they are being smart and keeping her shuttered from the Press when it comes to interviews and they will probably make some excuse to keep from debating Trump (can you blame them after the Biden disaster)?

      1. My Esoteric profile image84
        My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

        It's amazing you even have to ask that question at the top. If you have to ask, that tells me you consider jay walking and murder equivalent to each other.

        Yes, Trump is trying HARD to destroy America. 

        * He is half way there by getting people to distrust a electoral system even his own officials said was the most fair in history. 

        * He has gotten 30% of the people to think justice is no longer blind (well mostly) and that juries no longer work. If that isn't destroying America,

        * He normalized political violence.

        * He normalized insurrection.

        If that isn't destroying America, I don't know what is.

        1. Ken Burgess profile image70
          Ken Burgessposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          I can definitely see how one can come to that assessment.

      2. My Esoteric profile image84
        My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

        "Which is why they are being smart and keeping her shuttered from the Press when it comes to interviews" - ROFL - https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/27/politics … index.html

        1. Ken Burgess profile image70
          Ken Burgessposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          Apologies... I should have been more specific:

          "Which is why they are being smart and keeping her shuttered from HOSTILE or Neutral press when it comes to interviews"

          In other words, she will not be sitting down with any hard hitter from Fox, or with Musk, or with any 'discredited' information sites.

          1. My Esoteric profile image84
            My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

            Of course she shouldn't sit down with Lying Fox News, you never know how they will twist what is said.  They simply can't be trusted.

            Have you seen Dana Bash do interviews?  She is no softie.

      3. My Esoteric profile image84
        My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

        "and it helps that Trump has been villainized and labeled a rapist for years now." - ROFL - What 'labeled"? He was convicted of sexual abuse by penetrating a women with his fingers which even judges (but not that jury) consider rape.

        Oh yes, then there are those 19 or so other women who were brave enough to come forward to tell the world of Trump's sexual assaults on them.

        Then there are his own "grab them by the p*****"" remark. 

        Give me a break.  The man is a sexual scumbag, just ask his ex-wives who he cheated on.

        1. Ken Burgess profile image70
          Ken Burgessposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          There have been plenty of "sexual scumbags" in politics... Bill Clinton, more than one Kennedy, heck even Joe Biden who according to his daughter used to shower with her inappropriately, and yes, he was accused of rape as well.

          But the effort to go after Trump, to literally change laws and statutes within NY to do so, well... you look at that as Justice... I look at that as persecution and politicization of the Justice system.

          1. My Esoteric profile image84
            My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

            Here we go again.

            As far as I know, all of Kennedy's and Clinton's sexual encounters, while wrong, were consensual, sort of like Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal were for Trump.

            Your BS about Biden has been debunked and the one lady who claimed rape turns out to be untrustworthy.

            In any case, I am talking about all those woman who complained Trump abused them, which is MUCH MORE than smelling somebodies hair.

            The stuff about NY is also BS and been debunked.  Some laws might have been changed, but it wasn't to go after Trump (even though that would have been a good outcome to bring that scumbag to justice.)

      4. Kathleen Cochran profile image75
        Kathleen Cochranposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

        Ken, you make two good reasons why women may vote for VP Harris. But you left out another one: Women make up the majority demographic in America. We have never been a minority. If all women in America voted, we would decide every election even if we didn't all vote for the same candidate. Women would be the deciding factor in every election.

        1. Ken Burgess profile image70
          Ken Burgessposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          Correct, that is what we saw in 2020 when 58% voted for Biden.

          They will vote in an even larger percentage for Harris in 24.

          If the top priority was War or the Economy or the Border, Trump would win.

          The belief in the majority of women is that Orange Man is very bad (the percentage of men believing that is drastically smaller), and of course Abortion...

          Two-thirds of women (66%) say abortion should be legal in all or most cases.

          The majority of Democrats (men and women) point to abortion as a top voting issue since the U.S. Supreme Court's Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization decision.

          "So the salience of abortion as an issue is really different for Democratic voters this election cycle," PRRI CEO Melissa Deckman said. "And of course, it's a direct reflection of the political landscape and the policy landscape in the wake of Dobbs."
          https://www.npr.org/2024/05/02/12485997 … 4-election

          A majority of residents in most states say that abortion should be legal; in no state do more than 16% of Americans support a ban on abortion.

          Abortion has become a more salient voting issue in the last five years; Democrats continue to prioritize abortion as a voting issue compared with Republicans, as do women and younger voters.

          Over one-third of Americans (36%) say they would only vote for a candidate who shares their views on abortion. In 2018, a notably lower number of Americans (21%) said they would only vote for a candidate who shares their views on abortion.

          Women (50%) are more likely than men (32%) to say that they would only vote for a candidate who shares their view on abortion.

          More than four in ten young Americans ages 18 to 29 (43%) say they will only vote for a candidate who shares their views on abortion; 53% of Democrats 18 to 29 report that they would only vote for a candidate who shares their views.

          Half of Democratic women in battleground states (50%) say they will only vote for a candidate who shares their views on abortion, compared with 42% of Democratic men in battleground states.

          Among all Americans, over two-thirds (68%) oppose laws that make it illegal to use or receive through the mail FDA-approved drugs for medical abortion, often called abortion pills, while about three in ten (29%) favor these laws.

          https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/20/us/a … s-dnc.html

          I could make this a very long post...

          50% of women are a lock to vote for Harris just on the Abortion issue alone.

          Abortion has become a very real issue again and anyone that doesn't believe it will almost single handedly be the issue that decides this election is in for a rude awakening come November.

  11. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 6 weeks ago

    After Jan 6, does anyone seriously doubt pathological lying, sexual predator, and serial felon Donald Trump won't resort to violence if it looks like he is going to lose in November?

    He faces two probable federal convictions in the Jan 6 indictment and the documents case which is sure to get revived, possible jail time in the Georgia election interference trial, and a slight chance of jail time in the NY election interference jury guilty verdict.

    There is a whole lot more at stake than just trying to illegally hang on to power in 2021.

  12. Kathleen Cochran profile image75
    Kathleen Cochranposted 6 weeks ago

    "The effort to tattoo Trump with racist, sexist, old, ogrish identifiers over the course of a decade will have its impact."

    Trump tattooed himself.

    1. Ken Burgess profile image70
      Ken Burgessposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

      You know that the effort to label him is unlike anything America has ever seen, from Impeachment efforts by politicians on day one, to fabricated and fake dossiers being used by the FBI to go after him with the full force of the Justice System behind them, to the onslaught of news coverage that constantly puts things in context of racist, sexist, or worse.

      The constant comparisons to Hitler, the efforts to stir hostility towards anyone who supports him, from Maxxine Waters to Morning Joe advocating for violence and/or uncivil treatment of fellow citizens.

      1. My Esoteric profile image84
        My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

        America has never seen a criminal like him running for President, either.  I is obvious you don't mind having a pathological liar, sexual predator, and serial felon as President, but I do and will do my part to stop him.

        The news media doesn't put things in context of racist, sexist, or worse - Trump does that for them and they just do their job and report it.

        As to the last, when the shoe fits ...

        As to Maxine Waters and Morning Joe - did they instigate an insurrection like Trump did?

  13. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 6 weeks ago

    What Republicans call the worst economy ever has produced this interesting statistic in an election year - 401k 'millionaires' hit RECORD high. I bet some of them are Republicans saying our economy is crap.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/28/business … index.html

  14. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 6 weeks ago

    A new set of polls came out over the last couple of days that now include the DNC convention in their data set.

    8/29/2024

    This is the first report after the DNC convention. (The * means I made adjustments to account for the type of sample it was where Likely Voters gets more weight than Registered Voters and the Polls Accuracy based on 538s assessment. If there is no *, then I only adjusted for type of sample)

    General Election: Harris UP by 1.5. By my calculations that is Outside the Margin of Error (MOE)

    Arizona: Harris DOWN by 0.1*. Inside the margin of error.

    Florida: Harris DOWN by 5.0. Outside the margin of error.

    Georgia: Harris DOWN by 2.0*. Inside the margin of error.

    Michigan: Harris UP by 1.7*. Inside the margin of error.

    North Carolina: Harris DOWN by 0.4. Inside the margin of error.

    Nevada: Harris DOWN by 0.6*. Inside the margin of error.

    Pennsylvania: Harris EVEN by 0.0*. Inside the margin of error.

    Virginia: Harris UP by 4.0. Inside the margin of error. Only two polls.

    Wisconsin: Harris UP by 0.7*. Inside the margin of error.

  15. Kathleen Cochran profile image75
    Kathleen Cochranposted 6 weeks ago

    I'm sure I will post this statement over and over before Nov. 5:

    POLLS ARE NOT VOTES. VOTE

    1. My Esoteric profile image84
      My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

      That is SO true.

  16. Kathleen Cochran profile image75
    Kathleen Cochranposted 6 weeks ago

    The new ads by the GOP claiming "Kamala Lies!" are interesting.

    Seriously?

    You want to go there?

    1. My Esoteric profile image84
      My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

      Are talking about the one where Trump's campaign edited what Harris was saying to change her meaning?  Why isn't that illegal?

      1. My Esoteric profile image84
        My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

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        1. tsmog profile image87
          tsmogposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          All great information, however the ads video or otherwise that was aimed at is needed to have context. What are they, specifically. Otherwise isn't it just innuendo?

          1. My Esoteric profile image84
            My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

            I gotta start reading those headlines better.  It left me to believe that something Harris said was edited.  Turns out it wasn't, it was a quote by a conservative organization about immigration that was edited to look like Harris said something she didn't.  Still very deceptive, but maybe not illegally so, although it is still on the line.

            In addition, the ad was chock full of other deceptions.

            1. tsmog profile image87
              tsmogposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

              Okay . . . I can only take your word for what the ad depicts or that it is misinformation. Since I don't know what ad it is, most certainly I won't be quoting it as being such.

              1. My Esoteric profile image84
                My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

                The link I provided discussed the details.

              2. My Esoteric profile image84
                My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

                The link I provided had the details.  Here it is again -  https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/31/politics … index.html

          2. MizBejabbers profile image92
            MizBejabbersposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

            I don't think context is required for proof. If an ad specifically makes a false statement that someone was accused of saying, that probably would stand on its own. Innuendo is a gray area, a total falsity is not. For instance a gray area, "Joe Blow hinted that he didn't like women." A false statement if he did not say it: "Joe Blow said that he does not like women."

            1. tsmog profile image87
              tsmogposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

              Okay. However, what ad are you talking about? An accusation has been made that Harris's voice was altered in someway of an audio, thus making a false statement.

              What is the context for the accusation? In my mind it is the ad with some kind of audio. Context = the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed." (Oxford Language Dictionary)

              How can I understand the accusation the audio was altered without knowing what it is. The ad is the context to the accusation.  Without context the accusation is innuendo as I see it. 

              If I got that wrong, please explain as I enjoy learning.

              Edit: Later in the afternoon, I on my own looked for an article on a doctored audio video of Harris's voice and see articles about one incident. Supposedly it is a TikTok that Musk shared on 'X'. So, now, I have context to the accusation, maybe. Is it the right incident spoken about?

              1. My Esoteric profile image84
                My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

                You could have gotten to the ad through the link - https://host2.adimpact.com/admo/viewer/ … 1cbfa20900

              2. My Esoteric profile image84
                My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

                Also note, I corrected myself.  It was not Harris' voice who was edited, instead, it was an analysis that was edited to make it seem like it was talking about Harris' statement, which it was not.

  17. Kathleen Cochran profile image75
    Kathleen Cochranposted 6 weeks ago

    Esoteric: You might want to adopt my daughter's stance on political advertising: If they went to the trouble to create an ad, it is sure to be full of lies.

    She wasn't Phi Beta Kappa/Summa Cum Laude for nothing. (Sorry, proud Mama)

    1. My Esoteric profile image84
      My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

      smile

  18. Kathleen Cochran profile image75
    Kathleen Cochranposted 6 weeks ago

    "A misrepresentation is a false or misleading statement or a material omission which renders other statements misleading, with intent to deceive. Misrepresentation is one the elements of common law fraud,"

    Fraud. Something Trump is well acquainted with - going back to when he was following his father's lead.

    1. Ken Burgess profile image70
      Ken Burgessposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

      Yeah, he is in good company... a liar amongst a den of liars and thieves.

      That is why some people that you would otherwise consider intellectually sound and of civilized nature like Trump, even find him funny, I know quite a few comedians who have said they do, they respect his ability to deliver jabs at just the right moment.

      Then there is the fact that the lies are so absurd, that you have to be brainwashed to believe them... like when Morning Joe was claiming Biden was as sharp as ever, a couple months back, it's ridiculous... another great example: three months ago the media was tearing down Harris, today she is the savior of Democracy and the Momma we all need!

      You have to have checked out your critical thinking ability if you can keep drinking this Kool-Aid.

      1. My Esoteric profile image84
        My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

        And since the "murderer" Trump is no different than the "jaywalking" den of liars and thieves he is the leader of, then he is equally deserving of being president.  Is that what you are suggesting because it certainly sounds like it.

        Brainwashed to believe - NOW you understand and apparently agree with our point that MAGA is mostly brainwashed.

        How do YOU know Biden isn't "sharp". His record on the job proves he is "sharp" to me and most others.

        The right-wing media may and probably were tearing down Harris three months ago, the main-stream media certainly wasn't that I recall. Most of the "negative" things reported (which apparently means "tearing down" to you) was at the beginning of her term as VP.

        I check every day, do you?  And what Kook-Aid? That Trump is a pathological liar, a Sexual Predator, as serial felon, and a dangerous narcissist?

        1. Ken Burgess profile image70
          Ken Burgessposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          I check in here almost every day... does that count?

          If you mean MSM News... pretty much never, rare occasions like Assassination Attempts and New Conflicts initially opening up aside.

          Other than that, I spend ZERO amount of my day watching MSM News or perusing MSM publications, other than for researching an event/issue.

          I would probably be a lot less stressed for it, but due to the global economic tsunami on the horizon that I keep tabs on, and the escalating wars in Russia and the Middle East, I am still tied into what is going on in the world.

          1. My Esoteric profile image84
            My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

            No wonder you have such a warped sense of reality if your only consumption is from right-wing conspiracy-laden propaganda outlets.

            Others who broke free of say the Qanon frenzy admitted they had been sucked in to using such things as their information source. Once free, they were amazed at how different the real world was from the fantasy world he was living in.

            1. Ken Burgess profile image70
              Ken Burgessposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

              This is true, I imagine my views seem strange to you, as you allow your reality to be shaped by what CNN and its like provides you.




              Except I don't use such sites.  I use whatever source I can find for a given subject I am interested in, that is as disconnected from an American MSM source as possible.

              Sometimes its from India, sometimes its from a smalltown newstation, or a nobody on Youtube or an actual official post on X.

              I don't need some talking head on CNN or FOX to tell me what to think.

              I honestly don't know how anyone can stomach how canned and over the top some of the nonsense is... whether its Maddow or Hannity... its all bleh to me.

              1. My Esoteric profile image84
                My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

                Yes, I use sources that tell the truth and live in the real world like CNN.

                As to your sources, based on what you write, I would have to guess they are all fellow conspiracy theorists who live in an alternate reality like Q.

            2. Ken Burgess profile image70
              Ken Burgessposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

              I offer you an example of what I listen to/watch in place of MSM:

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYRYXhU4kxM

              Three and a half hours of listening to two highly intelligent individuals discuss some of the issues of the day... truly a delight of depth the likes of CNN could not hope to delve.

  19. Willowarbor profile image59
    Willowarborposted 6 weeks ago

    And there it is...

    https://x.com/Acyn/status/1830401090183102510

    And this man isn't a threat to democracy?

    1. Ken Burgess profile image70
      Ken Burgessposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

      What is anyone supposed to make out of that?

      A mid-sentence 3 second clip with no context proves what exactly?

      1. Willowarbor profile image59
        Willowarborposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

        In what context is him saying he has the right  to election interference okay?

        Trump: "Who ever heard you get indicted for interfering with a presidential election where you have every right to do it."


        And do you know why nobody's ever heard of it? Because no President in the history of America has tried to do it.

        You are certainly welcome to watch the entirety of the Levin interview.

        1. My Esoteric profile image84
          My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          Here is a great set of charts that depict exactly how Trump has already come close to destroying American democracy.

          https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics … -13-charts

          1. Ken Burgess profile image70
            Ken Burgessposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

            Eso, my fine chap.

            Trump is not a threat to Democracy.

            Trump is a threat to the goals and agendas of the Democrat Party and the money and power behind them.

            If Trump is elected again as President that would indeed be proof that we still have a Democracy, where votes actually matter.

            Not a threat to Democracy... just damned funny
            https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6Nsd3TYm728

            1. My Esoteric profile image84
              My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

              Not a threat to democracy eh? Isn't that what they said about Hitler and Putin?

              1. Ken Burgess profile image70
                Ken Burgessposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                I don't know... I do know that many fretted that Trump would end Democracy and start WWIII back in 2016.

                Didn't happen... not under his Presidency, those things seem to be happening now tho.

                1. My Esoteric profile image84
                  My Esotericposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                  What do you mean "you don't know"?? Are you unaware of how Hitler and Putin came to power?

                  You are right, it didn't happen, but he sure tried hard.  Give him a second chance and he might finish the job of turning America into another Russia.

                  It took somebody like Biden to right the ship from our slide into a Trump autocracy.  THANK YOU JOE!!!

                  1. gmwilliams profile image83
                    gmwilliamsposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                    Biden is the one leading the country to chaos & near destruction.  Because of Biddy Biden, there is a large influx of illegals which are taxing our socioeconomic infrastructure.  Biden has caused problems in the Ukraine.   Biden has INCREASED inflation. 

                    Trump wasn't a problem in America.  In fact, Trump was a breath of fresh air.   America profited under Trump.   The Democrats hated Trump from the start & began to undermine him which they are continuing in demoniac frequency to the present time.  It is the Democrats who are establishing a tyrannical government, not Trump.  Trump isn't a tyrant & he is for American freedoms.

  20. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 5 weeks ago

    I track the polls and apply my own weighting factor as I explained in previous posts here.  But, I always try to be fair and impartial in my analyses, so I can't believe I am saying this,  CNN just dropped a bunch of battleground polls and I can't use any of them.  Why? Because the CNN polling company doesn't meet my criteria of a reliable poll!!  Fox is much better. 

    365 rates polls on their historical accuracy where <0 is Good and >0 is bad.  If a pollster's score is greater than zero, I don't include it because of lack of accuracy.  For example, CNN/SSRS rates +0.2 which means it is out.  On the other hand, Fox/Insider Advantage rates a -1.1, which means I include it.

    Too bad, because CNN showed that save for Arizona, Harris did well (+ = Up for Harris, - = Down for Harris):.

    * AZ: -5

    * NV: +1

    * PA: Tie

    * MI: +5

    * WI: +6

    * GA: +1

  21. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 5 weeks ago

    Republicans Voting for VP Kamala Harris:

    Former Rep Liz Cheney - just announced.

    Former Rep Adam Kinzinger

    Trump Communications Director and Melania's Chief of Staff  Stephanie Grisham

    Security and Counterterrorism adviser to then-Vice President Mike Pence, Olivia Troye

    Former Republican governor Jim Edgar of Illinois,

    Former Republican governor Bill Weld of Massachusetts

    Former Republican governor Christine Todd Whitman of New Jersey h

    Former Georgia Lieutenant Governor Geoff Duncan.

    Former U.S. Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel

    Former U.S. Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood

    Former U.S. Treasurer Rosario Marin

    Former GOP state chair and state Senator Chris Vance of Washington

    Reed Howard of Young Republicans for Harris

    Former Republican National Committee (RNC) delegate Rina Shah.

    Jennifer Horn, former New Hampshire Republican Party Chair

    Former GOP Reo Rod Chandler of Washington

    Former GOP Reo Tom Coleman of Missouri

    Former GOP Reo Dave Emery of Maine

    Former GOP Reo Wayne Gilchrest of Maryland

    Former GOP Reo Jim Greenwood of Pennslyvania

    Former GOP Reo John LeBoutillier of New York

    Former GOP Reo Susan Molinari of New York

    Former GOP Reo Jack Quinn of New York

    Former GOP Reo Denver Riggleman of Virginia

    Former GOP Reo Claudine Schneider of Rhode Island

    Former GOP Reo Christopher Shays of Connecticut

    Former GOP Reo Peter Smith of Vermont

    Former GOP Reo Alan Steelman of Texas

    Former GOP Reo David Trott of Michigan

    Former GOP Reo Joe Walsh of Illinois

    What do these Republican officials plus the 100,000 other Republicans who joined the Republicans for Harris project know about Trump that you don't? Maybe because he is pathological liar or a Sexual Predator or a serial felon.

  22. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 5 weeks ago

    Surprise, Surprise - Harris is within the margin of error at -4 in Texas.  One more of those and Trump has a new front to defend.

    In Florida, she is at -5, a little outside the margin of error but within striking distance given the higher turnout from the pro-choice Amendment 4 on the ballot.

    Also of note is the Generic Congressional Poll which measures the likelihood of one party or the other gaining seats in the House.  For most of the last two years it slightly favored the Republicans. But for the last several months, it has swung to the Democrats, not by a lot but consistently and with a growing gap.  For example, of the last 20 polls, only four favored the Republicans.  That is Very good news..

  23. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 5 weeks ago

    These business leaders know the Republican-MAGA Party left them behind and are now supporting Harris.

    "Dozens of business leaders are throwing their weight behind Vice President Kamala Harris, saying she is the stronger candidate for the American economy and the future of democracy.

    In a three-page letter, a group of 88 business leaders — including high-profile current and former executives from major public companies across tech, media, and finance — emphasized that they believe a Harris administration can better nurture the private sector.

    “Her election is the best way to support the continued strength, security, and reliability of our democracy and economy,” the open letter, which was first shared with CNBC, reads."


    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/06/business … index.html

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

      "Trump has gained the support of a number of CEOs, too, including some prominent names in tech – most notably Elon Musk, who endorsed Trump in July. David Sacks, the billionaire tech investor, co-hosted a Trump fundraiser in June at his San Francisco home and spoke at the Republican National Convention on Monday. Other contributors to America PAC include the Winklevoss twins, Doug Leone of Sequoia Capital and Palantir co-founder Joe Lonsdale, according to Federal Election Commission filings. And venture capitalist Peter Thiel is a Trump supporter."
      From the above link.

      1. My Esoteric profile image84
        My Esotericposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

        Besides Musk and Thiel, how many are far-right conspiracy theorists? I wonder if Thiel is getting a cushy job in the gov't as well as Musk?

  24. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 5 weeks ago

    Here is a key and telling metric - favorability (RCP):

    HARRIS: F - 47.4 , UF - 47.9 DIFF - .5 (Until she announced, her rating was consistently F-39/UF-55. This shows that as people came to know her, they liked what they saw.)

    TRUMP: F - 43.8. UF - 53.1 DIFF - 9.3 (His range has consistently been between F - 35 to 45 and UF - 50 and 60.)

    That gives Harris the clear edge in "too close to call" contests.

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
      Kathryn L Hillposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

      so you are gloating about the apparent stupidity of a majority of Americans as TDS wins over calm, calculated choosing of someone who has proven his worth? Harris has never proven her worth. And she has had three years directly before the public to do so. Walz is not proving his worth to this very day as many flee his ruthless policies in Minnesota.

      Can you imagine Walz as President of the United States someday?

      I shudder to think!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7IvepYXY_o

      1. gmwilliams profile image83
        gmwilliamsposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

        Many Americans are deluded into the Harris-Walz web.   They are seduced to believe that Harris & Walz are the saviors.  This is analogous to the story, the Devil's Dance.  There was a girl who insisted on attending a high school dance.  Her mother warned her not to attend the dance as it was a dance for the devil.  The girl scoffed at her mother & attended the dance anyway.

        The devil was at the dance disguised as a stranger dressed in black.  He danced with the girl, leading her all the way to hell.  There is another analogy- the Third Reich.   People fell for Hitler because of his promises, ignoring the negative rumors.   They dismissed the negative rumors as pure hyperbole.  Well, they discovered too late what Hilter planned was true.

        1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
          Kathryn L Hillposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

          We are cavalier. Such a simple word and a simple concept, but so disatourus.
           
          cavalier
          adjective
          showing a lack of proper concern; offhand.
          "Anne was irritated by his cavalier attitude"

          synonyms: offhand, indifferent, casual, dismissive, insouciant, uninterested, unconcerned, supercilious, patronizing, condescending, haughty, arrogant, lofty, lordly, disdainful, scornful, contemptuous, unceremonious, discourteous, uncivil, insolent, rude, glib, ungracious, perfunctory, cursory, curt, abrupt, terse, brusque, off, offish, couldn't-care-less, take-it-or-leave-it,

          ~ well, maybe not so simple.

        2. My Esoteric profile image84
          My Esotericposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

          And MAGA are largely brainwashed, as I have shown several times now, by Trump's violent rhetoric.

          "People fell for Hitler because of his promises, ignoring the negative rumors.   They dismissed the negative rumors as pure hyperbole.  Well, they discovered too late what Hilter planned was true." - WHICH is so true and exactly why I keep comparing Trump to Hitler and Trump followers to Hitler followers.

          1. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
            Kathryn L Hillposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

            Trump is no Hitler. I find that idea to be very humorous.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3A-ubUIX6s

            1. My Esoteric profile image84
              My Esotericposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

              Is Trump responsible for killing 6 million Jews? No, In THAT way, he is no Hitler.  That said, even people in Trump's administration say he is responsible for hundreds of thousands of needless deaths during Covid.

              Did Trump invade Poland and start WW II? No, In THAT since, he is no Hitler. 

              BUT, in all the ways that matter personality-wise, there is not much daylight between the two.

              Oh, one more difference, Trump doesn't have a moustache, but they both give bombastic speech's chock full of lies and hate.  It is SO easy to see one of Hitler's speeches to the masses and see Trump standing there instead.

      2. My Esoteric profile image84
        My Esotericposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

        It seems to me that BDS is altering your perception of reality.

        Waltz is very popular in Minnesota and would be just as popular as president.

        Californians generally disagree with your assessment of Harris. But I forget, they are all stupid and you are not.

  25. Valeant profile image77
    Valeantposted 5 weeks ago

    Perhaps not, but he's definitely trying to be the Putin of the USA.

    Today, from internet comments:
    Trump is supposedly hyper-aware that he is slipping mentally and making less sense with each passing day, according to his biographer. I'm just glad Biden was more of a decent person to acknowledge he too was slowing and therefore, did the responsible thing to step-aside --For the Greater Good of The Nation.

    Unfortunately, Trump isn't a mature enough person to do the right thing and step aside in order to give the GOP a fighting chance. MAGA, I know you'll find what I'm about to say, is going to be very hard to chew on but, your cult leader is going downhill mentally and you should accept some of the accountability (but you won't) for Trump's loss in November when you could have encouraged the GOP to have someone else run for the presidency. Instead, you supported the bully, military draft dodging convicted felon. Decisions, decisions. This one is on the MAGA and all the civil minded citizens in the country have to say is, "Thank You".

    1. My Esoteric profile image84
      My Esotericposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

      And a sexual predator.

  26. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 5 weeks ago

    "Americans are paying around 20% more for goods and services now compared to before the pandemic,"

    As compared to "Over that same period, average hourly earnings rose 22.3%."

    Here is the difference in perception - when people go to the store, they remember what they used to pay and are shocked.  BUT, when they get their paycheck (or social security check), they DO NOT remember what they used to earn. SO, of course they will have a sour view on the economy EVEN THOUGH, on average, they are better off.  They blame, unfairly, Biden, and now Harris, for the higher grocery prices but do not give him credit, also unfairly, for the higher pay.  BTW, I am now paying consistently under $3.00 per gallon for gas in my area.

  27. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 5 weeks ago

    Excerpts from the link.

    "Trump’s tariff policy would controversially charge dramatically higher import taxes on practically everything that comes into the country’s ports from overseas. That could raise revenue for the government — but it could also cause Americans to pay higher prices for goods and services (i.e. inflation). Goldman Sachs economists estimated that every one percentage point increase in the effective tariff rate could raise core inflation as measured by the Personal Consumption Expenditures price index by a tenth of a percentage point. And Trump is talking about 10% to 20% tariffs on most things except Chinese goods — which would get a 60% tariff." - TRANSLATION, Trump wants to increase inflation back to 2022 levels. Is that what you want as a Trump voter?

    "Meanwhile, Trump promises to drill a lot more oil, a key cost for many businesses, to bring down prices — but there’s an open question over whether he could achieve that. (Under Biden)The United States is already pumping more oil than any nation in history."

    " the unprecedented immigration crackdown Trump has vowed if he returns to the White House could also lead to higher inflation, economists say, despite Trump recently asserting prices would “come down dramatically and come down fast” as a result. If mass deportations occur, businesses could struggle to fill open positions, forcing them to raise wages and pass those costs to consumers. ,,, If 7.5 million workers were deported, inflation would be a staggering 7.4 percentage points higher and GDP would be 12 points lower after three years, the research found." - That is called Cost - Push inflation.

    "The supply of workers from immigration will be 10,000 per month lower if Trump wins with a divided government than if Harris becomes president, Goldman Sachs estimates. If Republicans sweep in November, Goldman expects America’s supply of workers from immigration would be 30,000 lower than if Harris becomes president." - Guaranteed Inflation if Trump wins.

    "The first-time homeowner tax credit and tripling of the child tax credit for newborns she’s proposed could leave consumers with more money to spend on goods and services. But as a result, that could increase the prices they pay for them.

    Harris has also proposed a plan that her team says would result in 3 million housing units. The issue is the timing: If the first-time homebuyer credit goes into effect before more new units are available, it could cause home prices to spike."


    "No matter who wins in November, expect to see the federal budget deficit grow significantly."

    "Several of the tax policies Trump is proposing would substantially limit the amount of money the government collects." - Ballooning the Debt and Deficit once again like it did after his last give-away to the rich.

    "Meanwhile, the tax proposals Harris has put forth so far mostly involve imposing higher taxes, which would have a positive impact on the deficit. ,,, But the additional tax revenue the government could collect from this could be offset by the hefty tax credits she’s proposed, "

    TRUMP - "The nonpartisan Penn-Wharton Budget Model projects it will increase to $2.1 trillion by 2034 if the status quo is maintained."

    HARRIS - "Taken together, the Penn Wharton Budget model estimates Harris’ proposals could increase the deficit by an additional $1.2 trillion by 2034."

    Doesn't Harris' program seem a lot better than Trump's?

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/10/economy/ … index.html

  28. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 5 weeks ago

    "Retired military leaders defend Harris while placing blame on Trump for Afghanistan withdrawal in letter"

    THEY SAY: "“Vice President Kamala Harris is the best – and only – presidential candidate in this race who is fit to serve as our commander-in-chief. She has demonstrated her ability to take on the most difficult national security challenges in the Situation Room and on the international stage,” the group wrote in a National Security Leaders for America letter."

    THEY ALSO SAID: "The group of retired generals placed blame on former President Donald Trump for “putting service members in harm’s way” while he was in office, and argued he didn’t leave the Biden administration in a position to execute a withdrawal efficiently.

    “Without involving the Afghan government, he and his Administration negotiated a deal with the Taliban that freed 5,000 Taliban fighters and allowed them to return to the battlefield,” the letter claimed.

    “Then, he left President Biden and Vice President Harris with no plans to execute a withdrawal, and with little time to do so. This chaotic approach severely hindered the Biden-Harris Administration’s ability to execute the most orderly withdrawal possible and put our service members and our allies at risk.”"


    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/09/politics … index.html

  29. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
    Kathryn L Hillposted 5 weeks ago

    A bunch of retired generals said VP Kamala Harris has" demonstrated her ability to take on the most difficult national security challenges in the situation room and on the international stage." They also said that Trump created the chaotic approach which caused the disorderly withdrawal of Afghanistan, risking the safety and lives of service members and allies.
    Good to Know.

    1. My Esoteric profile image84
      My Esotericposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

      And they should know.

      1. MizBejabbers profile image92
        MizBejabbersposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

        Yet he stands at the podium and blatantly blames President Biden and VP Harris for his mistake. I'm not sure what constitutes treason nowadays, but when did negotiating with the Taliban outside of a recognized government become a responsible act? And can it be considered "official" since he went outside international law? Is international law only a suggestion?  He was certainly bragging about it during the debate. This article in a nutshell says: "Trump’s decision to pull the United States out of an array of international arrangements has therefore not protected American sovereignty but has instead made us into voluntary outcasts."

        https://www.justsecurity.org/72656/reen … ional-law/

        1. My Esoteric profile image84
          My Esotericposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

          Horrible, I know,  but for some unknown reason, 40% of Americans think breaking our promises is just a "fact of life" and no big deal.  Very Sad.

  30. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 4 weeks ago

    In an effort to win the presidency, Trump must lie to keep his followers to be scared enough that they will vote for him.  One of his lies is that countries like El Salvador are "emptying their prisons and sending gang members to the U.S.".  Well, they disagree with him, calling him a liar.

    "“In El Salvador, murders are down 70 percent. Why are they down? They’re down because they’re sending their murderers to the United States of America,” Trump claimed, offering no evidence to support his statement.

    CNN asked Security Minister Villatoro whether Trump’s assertion held any truth.

    “No,” Villatoro replied. “The problem with that, you (Trump) don’t have facts, you don’t have evidence, but instead, we have evidence of where we put our terrorists,” the minister said, referring to Cecot, the massive prison where thousands of gang members are held"


    Actually, I think Trump does have facts, he just chooses to ignore them so that he can lie to his cult members.

    El Salvador cleans up crime, but at a cost to human rights.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/12/americas … index.html

  31. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 4 weeks ago

    ANOTHER Important Republican goes for Harris.  Alberto Gonzalez, Republican, former White House Council, former Attorney General says "As the United States approaches a critical election, I can’t sit quietly as Donald Trump — perhaps the most serious threat to the rule of law in a generation — eyes a return to the White House. For that reason, though I’m a Republican, I’ve decided to support Kamala Harris for president."

    What does HE know that the Trump voter doesn't?

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ … t-00178746

    1. gmwilliams profile image83
      gmwilliamsposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

      These "Republicans" are being brainwashed.  They aren't true Republicans but are only nominal Republicans.

      1. My Esoteric profile image84
        My Esotericposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

        ROFL

  32. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 4 weeks ago

    One of Trump's methods of destroying democracy in America is to convince his cult to believed the elections are rigged against him (he obviously has been very successful in getting that message across).  That is good news for America and Democrats.  Besides destabilizing American democracy it has the effect of suppressing Republican voters who would have otherwise voted for Trump, but didn't vote at all because they feel the process is rigged.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/13/politics … index.html

  33. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 4 weeks ago

    While, for obvious reasons, I would rather not have the spoiler Green Party on the ballot in Nevada, I think I have to side with them. 

    It seems the Secretary of State gave them the wrong form to put signatures on in their attempt to get on the Nevada ballot.  The Democrats sued because the wrong form was used and was rejected by a lower Nevada court.  They appealed and the Nevada Supreme Court reversed the ruling and said the Green Party cannot be on the ballot because of that technicality.

    I don't know if the Green Party noticed they were given an incorrect form and did nothing, or, they didn't know.  In either case, the error seems to be on the State.  As a result, I don't think the Green Party should be penalized for the State's error.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/13/politics … index.html

  34. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 4 weeks ago

    Is the GOP really that antisemitic that they would do this?

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/13/politics … index.html

  35. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 4 weeks ago

    Donald Trump is taking Goebbels observation that "if you tell a lie long enough, people will begin to believe it" to NEW LEVELS that Goebbels probably never thought possible!

    Let's take his obviously FALSE claim that the economy under his administration was the "best in American History".  An obvious lie, but one he has convinced tens of millions of his cult followers is true.

    THE TRUTH AND FACTS ARE: Save for the pandemic, his economy is the kind of run-of-the-mill economy economists LOVE to see - between 2% to 3% annual growth.  That kind of growth is SUSTAINABLE over the long-term.

    Less than 2% leads to stagnation and possible recession.  More than 3% can lead to overheating the economy and inflation. Ironically, if Trump HAD achieved the kind of economy he says he did, we would have experienced inflation even before the pandemic hit.

    OBAMA:

    2009        -2.5% (end of Bush Great Recession) - BAD
    2010    2.6% - GOOD
    2011    1.6% - BAD
    2012    2.2% - GOOD
    2013    1.8% - BAD
    2014    2.5% - GOOD
    2015    3.1% - GOOD (BAD if it keeps up)
    2016    1.6% - BAD
    2010 - 2016      2.2% - GOOD

    TRUMP:
    2017    2.4% - GOOD
    2018    2.9% - GOOD
    2019    2.3% - GOOD
    2017 - 2019     2.5% GOOD
    2020    -3.4% (COVID-19 recession) - TERRIBLE

    BIDEN:
    2021    5.9% (recovery) - BAD if it keeps up
    2022    2.1% - GOOD
    2023    2.0% (estimate) - GOOD
    2024    1.5% (forecast) - BAD, if it pans out.

    SO, Trump believers - convince us that Trump's economy was significantly better that Obama's or Biden's as Trump continual lies about.

    And to burst that other bubble - Trump's economy was not the best ever Just to pick one period from 1996 - 2000, the average GDP growth rate was 4.8%, almost twice as good as Trump's.

    Ask yourself - Why do you keep believing him?

    Another embarrassing factoid: Trump's inflation rate of 2.1% was more than 30% higher than Obama's 1.6%.

    (All figures are from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.)

    1. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

      "SO, Trump believers - convince us that Trump's economy was significantly better that Obama's or Biden's as Trump continual lies about."

      How about you convince us all that Obama, with 4 of 8 years scoring "BAD" was significantly better than Trump, with 3 of 4 years scored "GOOD" and only the pandemic year showing "BAD".  When you have done that I will attempt to show why Trump was significantly better.

      1. My Esoteric profile image84
        My Esotericposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

        I didn't make that claim, did I?  Stop dodging and answer the question.

  36. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 4 weeks ago

    So, there was another "assassination" attempt against Trump, at one of his golf courses no less.

    While neither appear to be "real" attempts, they are both technically considered "assassinations".  In the first case, Trump was an apparent target of opportunity; it could have been Biden or Taylor Swift; just somebody with large crowds and close by.  In the second, assuming Trump was his actual target, he never got off a shot at Trump; the Secret Service spotted him first.

    First, let me point out that some here would say that Trump was the target since he hasn't been convicted of it yet; but applying my god-given reasoning ability, that seems like the probable reason Routh had an AR15-style weapon of war pointing through the fence was to shoot Trump who was nearby on the golf course.

    The motive of Routh is very unclear at the moment.  He seems like he would be a Trump supporter.  After all, Routh is a gun-nut and was even convicted of owning a weapon of mass destruction, a machine gun.  Ironically, he gave a few bucks to Democratic-leaning organizations. It may come down to Trump's stated desire to turn Ukraine over to Putin; apparently Routh is a big supporter of Ukraine.

    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ … index.html

  37. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 4 weeks ago

    So, there was another "assassination" attempt against Trump, at one of his golf courses no less.

    While neither appear to be "real" attempts, they are both technically considered "assassinations".  In the first case, Trump was an apparent target of opportunity; it could have been Biden or Taylor Swift; just somebody with large crowds and close by.  In the second, assuming Trump was his actual target, he never got off a shot at Trump; the Secret Service spotted him first.

    First, let me point out that some here would say that Trump was the target since he hasn't been convicted of it yet; but applying my god-given reasoning ability, that seems like the probable reason Routh had an AR15-style weapon of war pointing through the fence was to shoot Trump who was nearby on the golf course.

    The motive of Routh is very unclear at the moment.  He seems like he would be a Trump supporter.  After all, Routh is a gun-nut and was even convicted of owning a weapon of mass destruction, a machine gun.  Ironically, he gave a few bucks to Democratic-leaning organizations. It may come down to Trump's stated desire to turn Ukraine over to Putin; apparently Routh is a big supporter of Ukraine.

    I think one of the most poignant parts of the reporting is this part:

    "There’s no political playbook for how to deal with another apparent assassination attempt against a major-party presidential candidate within weeks of an election.

    Yet that’s where the rival campaigns now find themselves after what looks like a second attempt to kill Republican nominee Donald Trump in the latest twist to a political season defying precedent and highlighting the nation’s deep polarization.

    ...

    That such incidents happen at all speak to the undercurrent of violence that is a constant shadow over American politics, one that is exacerbated by the easy availability of firearms. "
    And I would offer an undercurrent brought on by Trump's violent, divisive, hate-filled rhetoric.

    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ … index.html

  38. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 4 weeks ago

    I would like to report that, assuming he make it for another 14 days, former President Jimmy Carter will have made it to 100 years old.  Boy, what he has seen in his life!

    https://www.townandcountrymag.com/socie … lebration/

  39. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 3 weeks ago

    For such a smart guy (unlike his running mate), J.D. Vance sure can be intellectually dishonest.  Apparently, he is upset that people correctly identify him and Trump as fascist-adjacent (given their approval of Nazis and White Supremacists). He says that has led to two assassination attempts against Trump.

    Where is he dishonest? A couple of ways.

    1. He didn't mention that the first attempt wasn't directed at Trump per se and Crooks apparently never thought of Trump in a political way, just an convenient target.

    2. He totally ignored the following Trump statements about Harris:

    - “She’s a Marxist, communist, fascist, socialist,” Trump said at an Arizona rally on Thursday. - which shows HIS intellectual incompetents. How does one be a communist and fascist at the same time?

    - “This is a radical-left, Marxist, communist, fascist,” Trump said while attacking Harris at a news conference on Friday.

    “We have a fascist person running who’s incompetent,” Trump told Virginia residents during a campaign stop in August;

    - Trump said the true divide in American politics is between patriots with traditional values and “these far-left fascists led by Harris and her group.”

    Vance also said, disingenuously, that the fact that “no one has tried to kill Kamala Harris in the last couple of months” demonstrates that the issue of incendiary rhetoric about presidential candidates is a one-side-only concern.  - He is right about the incendiary rhetoric but Very Wrong about who is spewing it; that belongs 100% to him and Trump and 0% to Harris (unless you are one of those that think speaking TRUTH is incendiary rhetoric)

    Vance also purposefully forgot to mention that either because of her gender, her color, and/or Trump's incendiary rhetoric that " Harris has faced violent threats for years, including in recent months. In August alone, a Virginia man and a Tennessee man were separately charged with making death threats against her."

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/17/politics … index.html

  40. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 3 weeks ago

    Trump apparently wants to shut down the gov't before the election.  You think he would want to win the election, not throw his chances away.  Then again, nobody has ever said he was smart (except him).

    Add shutting down the gov't to totally alienating women and you get a recipe for a Harris victory.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/18/politics … index.html

  41. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 3 weeks ago

    Things keep looking better for VP Harris.

    9/18/2024

    This is the first report after the Harris – Trump debate; it took quite a while for enough battleground states to come in. (The * means I made adjustments to account for the type of sample it was where Likely Voters gets more weight than Registered Voters and the Polls Accuracy based on 538s assessment. If there is no *, then I only adjusted for type of sample)  The polls accuracy generally runs between .1 and 1.5. You can use this as a guide if I happen to give a polls accuracy score.
    You can scroll down to see previous results.
    Also, unless otherwise noted, the results represent September and October polls.

    General Election: Harris UP by 1.9. By my calculations that is Outside the Margin of Error (MOE). Even though the difference is small, it is a very strong indication that Harris will win the popular vote.

    Arizona: Harris DOWN by 0.6* through August. Inside the margin of error. The only poll is September was tied; that polls accuracy is 0.4.

    Florida: Harris DOWN by 5.0 (no change). Outside the margin of error.

    Georgia: Harris DOWN by 3.0*. Inside the margin of error. (July-Aug results were Harris Down by 1.3)

    Michigan: Harris UP by 1.5*. Inside the margin of error. (July-Aug results were Harris Up by 1.7)

    North Carolina: Harris UP by 1.8 (3 polls). Inside the margin of error. (July-Aug results were Harris Down by .5)

    Nevada: Harris DOWN by .5* (July – Aug). Inside the margin of error.

    Pennsylvania: Harris UP by 1.6*. Inside the margin of error. (July-Aug results were Tied)

    Virginia: Harris UP by 9.0. Outside the margin of error. Only two polls. (July-Aug results were Harris Up by 4, only 2 polls)

    Wisconsin: Harris UP by 1.7*. Inside the margin of error. (July-Aug results were Harris Up by 0.6)

    1. gmwilliams profile image83
      gmwilliamsposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

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  42. Kathryn L Hill profile image81
    Kathryn L Hillposted 3 weeks ago

    The fact is, Kamala will bring forth totalitarian policies.
    Will DJT?

    1. Valeant profile image77
      Valeantposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      Fact?  That's an opinion.  One that seems to be the ultimate in projection.

    2. gmwilliams profile image83
      gmwilliamsposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

      Of course she would.  A blind man could see this.

  43. IslandBites profile image90
    IslandBitesposted 3 weeks ago

    Speaking of totalitarianism...

    Remember?

    FOX - "Are we close to see uhm Mr Kim here at the White House?"

    DT - "Uh, it could happend."

    FOX - "They talked about that yesterday?"

    DT - "I think it's something that could happen, yeah. Hey, he's the head of a country. And I mean, he is the strong head. Don't let anyone think anything different. He speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.”

    1. My Esoteric profile image84
      My Esotericposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      People don’t seem to mind the idea of former President Donald Trump acting as a dictator, he told Time magazine in an interview

      https://www.denverpost.com/2024/04/30/t … -dictator/

      And in case anyone missed it, he reenacted the exchange.

      “We love this guy,” Trump said of Hannity. “He says, ‘You’re not going to be a dictator, are you?’ I said: ‘No, no, no, other than day one. We’re closing the border, and we’re drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I’m not a dictator.’”
      Everybody knows that dictators NEVER give up power.  Remember Trump's insurrection attempt.
      https://apnews.com/article/trump-hannit … d7f1235c72

  44. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 3 weeks ago

    Trump keeps LYING AND LYING and Trump supporters keep believing and believing his lies.

    Fact Check: Here are some of the completely fictional stories Trump has told in the last month
    From CNN's Daniel Dale
    Former President Donald Trump is littering his public remarks with fictional stories.

    This isn’t run-of-the-mill political spin, the kind of statistic-twisting and accomplishment-exaggerating that political candidates of all stripes engage in. Rather, the Republican presidential nominee is telling colorful lies that are completely untethered to reality.

    Trump’s inflammatory assertion about immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, whom he baselessly accused at the September presidential debate of eating people’s dogs and cats, has received the most attention. But Trump’s lower-profile recent public appearances, like rallies and interviews, have also featured wholly imaginary tales.

    Here are some examples from the past month alone.

    Harris and the military draft: At a rally in Las Vegas last week, Trump claimed his Democratic opponent, Vice President Kamala Harris, is talking about forcing Americans to serve in the military: “She’s already talking about bringing back the draft. She wants to bring back the draft, and draft your child, and put them in a war that should never have happened.”

    That’s absolute bunk. Harris is not talking at all about bringing back the draft.

    Harris’ CNN interview Trump claimed during a Fox News event in Pennsylvania in early September that Harris “had notes” to assist her during the television interview she did with CNN in late August. He even performed an impression in which he portrayed Harris supposedly looking down at these notes.

    She didn’t actually have any notes.

    Transgender children and schools
    At an event held by a conservative group in late August, Trump claimed that schools are sending children for gender-affirming surgeries without their parents’ knowledge. He said, “The transgender thing is incredible. Think of it. Your kid goes to school and comes home a few days later with an operation. The school decides what’s going to happen with your child.”

    Trump’s campaign subsequently made clear to CNN that it could not find a single example of such a thing having happened anywhere in the United States. Parental consent is required for gender-affirming operations; schools have not performed or approved these surgeries for minors behind their parents’ backs.

    Even after Trump’s campaign demonstrated that it couldn’t substantiate the story, he repeated it days later at a Wisconsin rally in early September.

    Harris and the Russian invasion of Ukraine
    Trump told a vivid story on Fox News in late August about how President Joe Biden supposedly sent Harris to negotiate with Russian President Vladimir Putin in 2022 in an effort to prevent an invasion of Ukraine. Trump claimed Harris was sent “to see Putin in Russia three days before the attack. She went. She said – she gave her case. He attacked three days later. He attacked three days later. He laughed at her. He thought she was a joke.” Trump also told a version of the story at the September debate.

    But this story, too, is wholly false.

    Biden never sent Harris to negotiate with Putin – in fact, the Kremlin said in July that Harris and Putin have never spoken – and Harris did not travel to Russia just prior to the invasion. Rather, Harris traveled to a conference in Germany to meet with US allies, including Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelensky.

    Harris’ identity
    Trump claimed at a convention of Black journalists in late July that Harris used to “only” promote her Indian heritage, then “all of a sudden” made a “turn” and “became a Black person.” Defending the claim, Trump reiterated at the September debate that Harris had “put out” at some point that “she was not Black.”

    None of that is true.

    Harris – who was raised in a Black community and graduated from a historically Black university – has embraced her Black identity since her youth. While she has also fondly discussed her South Asian heritage, she never “put out” that she wasn’t Black.

    Harris’ 2020 primary performance
    Trump has repeatedly claimed during the last month that Harris was so unpopular when she previously ran for the presidency, in 2019, that she was the very first candidate to drop out of the crowded Democratic primary. “She was one of 22 people that ran. She was the first one to quit,” he said at a Pennsylvania rally in late August.

    Not even close.

    In fact, 13 other Democratic candidates dropped out of the race before Harris did – including the sitting or former governors of Washington, Montana and Colorado; the sitting mayor of New York City; and sitting or former members of the House of Representatives and Senate.

    Opinions of Roe v. Wade
    Facing heavy criticism from Harris and others for appointing three of the Supreme Court justices who overturned the Roe v. Wade abortion rights decision in 2022, Trump concocted a tale that this unpopular decision fulfilled the wishes of “everybody” – including “every Democrat.”

    “Every Democrat, every Republican, everybody wanted Roe v. Wade terminated and brought back to the states,” Trump said on Fox News in late August.

    This is not even remotely accurate.

    Roe was consistently supported by a majority of the American public, and it was overwhelmingly popular among Democrats – with 80% support or better among Democrats in many polls.

    Elections in California
    At a September press conference in California, Trump claimed that “if I ran with an honest vote counter in California I would win California, but the votes are not counted honestly.” He had delivered an even more colorful version of the claim in an interview in late August, saying, “If Jesus came down and was the vote counter, I would win California, okay?”

    More rubbish.

    The votes are counted honestly in California, as they are in every other state; Trump loses California because it is an overwhelmingly Democratic state that has not chosen a Republican presidential candidate since 1988. He lost the state in 2020, fair and square, by more five million votes and more than 29 percentage points.

    A ‘Man of the Year’ award in Michigan
    Since 2016, Trump has told a lie that he was named “Man of the Year” in Michigan before he entered politics. Media outlets including CNN have repeatedly noted that Trump never got such an award and that the award doesn’t even appear to exist. But Trump claimed at a Michigan event on Tuesday that he has now been vindicated.

    “The press said, ‘Oh, it never happened.’ Well, then it did happen. They found out where it was,” Trump said. “But it was like 15 years ago, a beautiful area, but nobody remembered it; nobody remembered it all. All of a sudden, like through a miracle, they found out it did exist.”

    That’s a lie on top of a lie. The media has not discovered proof that Trump got a Michigan Man of the Year award.

    His campaign didn’t respond Wednesday to a request to explain what he was talking about.

    Migrants, prisons and ‘the Congo’
    For months, Trump has told a story about how “the Congo” has deliberately emptied prisons to somehow get its criminals to come to the United States as migrants. “Many prisoners let go from the Congo in Africa, rough prisoners,” he said at an August event in Arizona. At an August rally in Pennsylvania the week after, he said, “In the Congo, in Africa: 22 people deposited into our country. ‘Where do you come from?’ ‘The Congo.’ ‘Where in the Congo?’ ‘Jail.’”

    But Trump has presented zero evidence that “the Congo” has actually emptied any prisons for migration purposes. Representatives for the governments of both the Democratic Republic of Congo and the neighboring Republic of Congo have told CNN on the record that the claim is fiction, experts on the two countries say they have seen no evidence it is true, and Trump’s campaign has ignored requests to offer any substantiation.

    The jobs revision
    After the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics announced in August that its annual revision of jobs data found that the economy added about 818,000 fewer jobs than initially reported for the 12 months ending in March, Trump told a story about how the government had been planning to announce this downward revision “after November 5th,” Election Day, but was forced to do so before the election because of “a whistleblower” – “a patriot leaker.”

    Another fabrication. The Bureau of Labor Statistics regularly releases the preliminary revised data in August, and it had disclosed the precise date of this particular data release – August 21 – weeks in advance.

    William Beach, a conservative economist who was appointed by Trump to lead the Bureau of Labor Statistics, wrote on social media: “For those who think the big revision to the BLS jobs numbers ‘leaked’ and was meant to come out after the election, remember that BLS always announces its draft revisions in August and announced this year’s date, August 21, many months ago. It is important to check your facts.”


    But we all know Trump voters wont check facts.

    Also. on the Roe v Wade front.  Trump can now be tied to at least two abortion related deaths. BUT FOR TRUMP, these women would not have died from the cause they did!!!!

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/19/politics … index.html

    https://www.propublica.org/article/cand … th-georgia

    1. gmwilliams profile image83
      gmwilliamsposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

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  45. Willowarbor profile image59
    Willowarborposted 3 weeks ago

    Another Trump supported candidate and friend goes down in flames..

    How do folks think that the Mark Robinson bombshell in North Carolina will impact Trump support there? 

    Several polls had already put Harris ahead of Trump in the state and many deemed the state of "toss-up".  I think it looks like North Carolina will turn blue this year.   

    How did such a hateful, divisive and perverse man become the Republican party's nominee??



    https://www.axios.com/local/raleigh/202 … nc-scandal

    1. My Esoteric profile image84
      My Esotericposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      Or the Lt. Governor?

    2. IslandBites profile image90
      IslandBitesposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      "I think you're better than Martin Luther King. I think you are Martin Luther King times two."

  46. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 3 weeks ago

    This is one of the ways Trump and MAGA are destroying democracy - by filing FRIVOLOUS lawsuits that undermine confidence in our elections.

    They say enough non-citizens are casting ballots that the election was swayed in Democrats favor.  They need to go back to elementary school and relearn math.  Their own far-right Heritage Foundation has documented only 100 cases of fraudulent voting from 2002 - 2022.  This is 100 divided by 1 billion votes cast or 0.00001%.

    It is clear to me the RNC, who is filing many of these fake suits, is anti-democracy.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/20/politics … index.html

  47. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 3 weeks ago

    The number of Republican defections is increasing. This time it is a former Haley campaign chair.

    Haley needs to reverse her stand or go down in flames alongside Trump.

    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ … index.html

    1. MizBejabbers profile image92
      MizBejabbersposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      I totally agree. I'm disappointed in her.

  48. Willowarbor profile image59
    Willowarborposted 3 weeks ago

    Congressional Republicans are demanding an 11th-hour change to Nebraska’s presidential voting system in a move that could transform the electoral calculus and tip the race to Donald Trump in the event of a photo finish...
    "In a sign of the raised stakes, the South Carolina senator Lindsay Graham – a close Trump ally – visited Nebraska this week and urged legislators to find the extra votes needed to revert its electoral college distribution procedure back to the winner-takes-all system it used before 1992."

    Why not just work on gaining more voters instead of changing the rules in an attempt to win?

    And in Georgia...

    The Georgia State Election Board voted on Friday to force counties to hand-count all ballots cast on Election Day, a move critics say could significantly delay the reporting of results in the battleground state and inject chaos into the post-election period.

    Critics argue that requiring hand counting, in addition to a machine count, could introduce errors and confusion into the process and potentially disrupt the custody of ballots. 

    But that's the point isn't it? Create confusion and chaos in order to give Trump an excuse  to undermine unfavorable results . 

    the attorney general’s office in Georgia took the rare step of weighing in on the rules proposed by Trump's "pitbulls", saying they “very likely exceed the board’s statutory authority.”



    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/20/us/e … rules.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 … al-college

  49. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 3 weeks ago

    This is one reason why people have such a hard time trusting police. Now one department has been banned from providing protection to election workers.

    "RAVENNA, Ohio (AP) — A local Ohio elections board says the county sheriff's department will not be used for election security following a social media post by the sheriff saying people with Kamala Harris yard signs should have their addresses recorded so that immigrants can be sent to live with them if the Democratic vice president wins the November election.

    In a statement on the Portage County Democrats' Facebook page, county board of elections chair Randi Clites said members voted 3-1 Friday to remove the sheriff's department from providing security during in-person absentee voting."


    So goes Republican politics.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics … &ei=10

    1. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

      I was unable to find anything in the link indicating that either the sheriff OR members of the board are registered Republicans, have voted Republican in the past or have indicated they will vote Republican in the future.

      Are you insinuating that anyone wishing to enforce our laws and protect our borders will never vote Democrat or are you once more simply making assumptions about people without supporting data?

      1. Willowarbor profile image59
        Willowarborposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

        The sheriff...

        Bruce D. Zuchowski was elected as Portage County Sheriff in 2020
        Bruce Zuchowski, a Republican and former assistant post commander for the Ohio State Highway Patrol, defeated Greg Johnson, a Democrat who was the former chief of the detective bureau at the sheriff’s office.



        https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/new … 253787007/

      2. My Esoteric profile image84
        My Esotericposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

        I read through the article as well and only say a sheriff, probably illegally, doxing citizens of that community for expressing their political preference.  Please point out where he was, how did you put it, "wishing to enforce our laws and protect our borders ". If fact, he was simply threatening people.

        Of course I am insinuating that the sheriff is Republican/MAGA. Unlike a few others on this forum, I use my god-given ability to reason and draw reasonable inferences from available information. 

        That sheriff's response follows the pattern established by today's Republican/MAGA party of denigrating migrants, legal or illegal. 

        Take Trump and Vance, for instance. Effectively threatening the lives of legal immigrants in Springfield, Ohio by repeatedly amplifying lies about Haitians eating pets which has led to threats of deaths and bombings and school closures.  I really think the city of Springfield should sue Trump and Vance for the cost of protecting their citizens from the hate both have instilled in their crazy followers.

        BTW, I think the city ought to look into pressing charges against the sheriff.  If it isn't, his threat to dox citizen's addresses for expressing a political view ought to be illegal.  Putting people's lives in danger is not acceptable free speech.

        Oh yes, there is what Willowarbor provided you, which you could have easily found out yourself.

        1. wilderness profile image95
          wildernessposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

          And. as usual, your insinuations mean nothing but anyone but you, for the other readers here recognize your massive TDS and the necessity to exaggerate (and assume) anything and everything to demonize Trump or anyone not of the Democrat persuasion.

          Yes, I could have researched it...or you could have provided the evidence your post begged for.

          But not sure what you would charge the sheriff with - he said nothing half as bad as what you have often said here in this social medium.  More, his statement suggested an obvious impossibility and could not be taken seriously by anyone with a "god-given ability to reason and draw reasonable inferences from available information".

          1. My Esoteric profile image84
            My Esotericposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

            I would say the same of anything you write.

            It was self-evident for the reasons I provided.  Just because you deny the logic doesn't make it any less logical.

            And what is it that I have said that is worse than a Republican sheriff putting lives of Democrats at risk?

  50. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 3 weeks ago

    Republicans are making yet another disgusting attempt to not count legal votes.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/24/politics … index.html

 
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