Bill Clinton vs. Donald Trump: Who's the Bigger D-Bag?

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   Sychophantasticposted 8 years ago

   I've been giving more thought to this question than I normally would.
   
   While I hate Donald Trump and would never vote for him, Republicans have a pretty valid point when they bring up Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton is a serial philanderer. He also used the power of his office to entice an intern to perform a sex act on him. In most professional environments in the United States, that would get you fired. It's also sexual harassment. Even if the woman says that it was consensual, most professional environments do not allow relationships between superiors and subordinates because the power dynamic is inherently unfair.
   
   Democrats have usually been resistant to denouncing Bill Clinton's behavior. If you supported Bill Clinton, can you defend that behavior? Is it relevant?
   
   And if it's not relevant, how do you square your dislike of Donald Trump's sexual attitudes? Not unlike Clinton, Trump appears to be a good ol' boy who lives in a giant vacuum where, due to his power, he feels like he can do whatever he wants to women.
   
   So where do you stand? Is one better than the other? Are they similar? If Bill Clinton ran for President now, would he be in the same boat as Trump?

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      lions44posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I hate Trump as well, but I agree. The media has given BC a pass. But if you believe one set of women, you have to believe the other. The accusations against Trump I believe are true.  Awful comments by Joy Behar and others don't help either side.  I'm tired of "handsy" baby boomers running for President.

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      Ken Burgessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Actually Bill has been accused of Rape, by multiple women, and those women have been attacked for those accusations vigorously by Hillary throughout the years.
      
      I have tried to remain focused on the topics that really matter, the economy, the trade agreements, things that will impact my children's future... I know neither Clinton or Trump are 'good people' how dirty each of them are, and to what degree is debatable, but both have issues, anyone who doesn't see that is just a blind follower of one side or another, such a person is an example of just how we end up with leaders like Hitler because they refuse to see what is so obvious.
      
      That said, since the media has chosen to make this about morals and ethics rather than policy and political beliefs, I have dwelled on this aspect more than I normally would.  And it has led me to consider one thing above all others:
      
      I myself could never vote for anyone who knowingly helped a rapist-pedophile escape justice, I don't think there is any more deplorable act, other than the perpetrator of such a crime. For me there is truly nothing I despise more than those who rape, torture and murder innocent children. Except perhaps those that help such vile disgusting men get away with such crimes.
      
      That makes Clinton someone I would never trust, never support, and it really has helped make this election very clear for me.  Yes, Trump is less than ideal, but he is not proven to be so callous a person as to knowingly help a guilty rapist-pedophile get back on the streets.
      
      No matter what position you take, or how you want to explain that was her job, I WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN WILLING TO DO THAT, I would have excused myself from the defense, or I would have ensured the truth of the matter been presented in court... and that is the difference between knowing what is right, having a conscience, having empathy for people... and being a worthless, corrupt, callous human being.

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         colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         I'm sure you meant to say Hillary (not Trump). 
         
         Hillary couldn't run on the issues, or her accomplishments, and certainly not on Obama's record, so they had to stear the debate in another direct.  I'd be happy to discus morals after the election.   
         
         DETAILS EMERGE SHOWING LATEST TRUMP ACCUSER Tied To Clinton Foundation
         http://endingthefed.com/breaking-detail … ation.html
         
         Both women accusing Trump of sexual assault are Clinton supporters and donors
         http://americanlookout.com/jpb-both-wom … nd-donors/
         
         A friend of mine read the so called lawsuit and said that it is "flimsy"  (only 5 pages).  Just the fact they want to wait till Dec. for a hearing tells me the whole thing will quietly disappear after the election.  More smoke!

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            Sychophantasticposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I did not mean Hillary. Trump is the biggest D-bag the presidential race has maybe ever seen. However, there's certainly lots to suggest Bill has similar views. Bill just doesn't seem to publicize them as much.

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         Sychophantasticposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         The logic that you can't support Hillary because she defended a rapist is twisted, to say the least. I don't mean twisted as in you're sick, but twisted in literally twisting concepts and ideas to make them fit some preconceived notion. The details of her appointment to that defense are elucidated here:
         
         http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-f … -about-it/

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   Live to Learnposted 8 years ago

   Does it really matter the size of the D-bag? It's still a d-bag.

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