Require a drug test ,....... simple . I just heard that Florida and two other states have passed legislation for drug tests for applying for welfare benefits ? The ultimate cure all for America's multitude of issues .
So what social sissy will step up and deny this will work?
How will that cure the millions who do not take welfare and work under the table?
For once I agree with Horse on Drugs
They should arrest all sugar cartels, tobacco smokers, alcohol and all legal drugs. Best to start off with the most harmful drugs in the World.
Arrest the sugar cartels? Talk about throwing me into withdrawals. Say you aren't serious.
An average person takes in 5 times too much sugar than we should. White refine sugar is most related and most leading cause of slow death. Sugar is almost into everything we buy.
It is another big environment reason that I am setting up permaculture operation in Bolivia. I just ignore the rarely odd cocaine plantation down here.
These people are entering into the system of legalized employment , free education , free healthcare and welfare , all on the dole. Stop sanctuary cities for one , welfare roles , hospital admittance , the legal job market should stop threatening drug tests and do them for another , legal applications for immigration ,immigration officials should do drug tests , they all seem to have their brushes with the legal system .There is a way to that , WITHOUT the system we have in place being told to "turn their heads away " from illegal immigration .
One way to end illegal aliens is to force them to come forward , a "carrot and the stick ", then it's all easier .
Sounds like the Reefer madness days when they deported million of Mexicans over public enemy number one crime. Being the Mexicans drug call Marijuana , also imprisoned blacks and sent Whites for mental illness treatments. The only mentality ill people I see are the Reefer madness synthetic corporatism.
Add to this mess that nearly half of Americans have tried Marijuana, where do they get deported too, prison. Great recruitment for making industrial military equipment at lease that is a job, not a good one, but a job.
Stay with me now and don't just mash everything together. How will drug testing identify working illegals when they don't draw welfare?
Right wingers continue to disgust me, people may have a legitimate need for welfare without all the invasion of privacy ideas from the right wing playbook. What kind of new fascism are you advocating, is it just another aspect of the "Trump Effect"?
If they have a legitimate need for welfare they won't test positive for illegal drugs, so what's the problem? The hour away from the TV to go get one?
Why not use legitimate standards to determine eligibility for welfare, besides being invasive at the start, it is so Trumpian of you.....
Personally, I find that the funding isn't being spent on illegal drugs to be quite legitimate. That we aren't simply buying drugs with our charity.
You may disagree (I assume you do) but that that doesn't make the request illegitimate. Nor does it make it excessively invasive - we already demand to know the recipients entire financial status and that's pretty invasive in itself.
So "progressive" of you...simply give money away without knowing whether it is needed or not.
I'm honestly surprised that anyone would have a problem checking to see if someone is on drugs.. I don't think anyone would advocate denying them help but giving money to a drug addict is just going to fund their addiction. What if the money is meant to support a woman with children? Should the kids be neglected and unfed because it's insulting and invasive to make sure the caregiver is drug free?
Look guys, the check on financially background has a direct bearing in to their eligibility for the program If there is probable cause or reasonable suspicion that a recipient is involved in drugs, fine, do your pee tests. The idea that one that is on welfare is automatically presumed guilty of crimes are all just part and parcel of the new Trump regime.
But since there are more whites on welfare than any Minority group, let's see how they take all of this in?
So much for the ideas that conservatives and libs can ever see common ground. The draconian vindictive things you people consider remedies, would never cross my mind.
It's sure easy to say," There are more whites on this than......blah, blah, blah" until you think proportions of any and all ethnicities , of course there are more whites "on the ship" because there are more whites.... duh .....I took a job at a high end yacht manufacturing company once and took the drug test to get the job , of course I passed it but WHY in the world would we NOT have a drug test for the social programs paid for by a working mans taxes ? And legal immigration applications for that matter ? We test convicts , ,why not the illegals when they are picked up too ?
"The idea that one that is on welfare is automatically presumed guilty of crimes are all just part and parcel of the new Trump regime."
Were there any truth at all to that, he'd say just stop welfare. Not test to see if it's being abused. Just more nasty liberal exaggerations?
"But since there are more whites on welfare than any Minority group, let's see how they take all of this in?"
Where did Minorities come into it? Are you playing the race card already?
"The draconian vindictive things you people consider remedies, would never cross my mind."
Can you explain how not buying illegal drugs for people is "vindictive"?
Is there any statistical data that indicates that a substantial number of people on welfare are engaged in illegal drug use or is this some right wing thing to punish people just for being on the program?
It is just like the racial profiling the righties have no problem with, you have an example of a welfare recipient abusing drugs and this justifies imposing this pee test on them all.
Let get the stats and if what you say is true that even if the drug use of welfare recipients exceed that of the general population, then I will reconsider, the use of these tests on a preemptive basis.
Requiring drugs test for welfare was a huge failure. The program was extremely expensive and found drug use for people on welfare was significantly lower than for average citizen samples.
And since when is the immigrant problem considered a drug problem. I bet immigrant drug use is lower than for citizens. Either doing the paperwork, or sneaking over the border, these are pretty much impossible to do while wasted.
Whites abuse drugs more than blacks. Latino abuse slightly more than whites.
Imagine job drug test for Marijuana that stays in your system for a month. Then you get fired or deported for it.
Also after being checked and searched in big building, driving, walking and traveling. You would need to take drugs to escape the stressful experiences of being suspected of terrorist or drug dealing.
Somehow I don't see all Syrians as wandering around high on pot all the time, and they aren't just suspected of being a terrorist. Instead they are dodging terrorist bullets.
While you may think it's fine to drive high, most of us don't want the added risk to our lives from the driver coming at us in a condition of reduced capability.
Only 17 Marijuana related death on Marijuana in a year in the US compare to 88,000 on Alcohol.
Only got high on pot twice in the last 5 years. Man I miss it,
Top ten we worst things about pot.
Number one :It is illegal:, plus the same the next 9 places.
I would bet my life that there are more than 17 traffic fatalities related to weed last year. We just don't check for it or assign it as a cause.
It has been proven Marijuana users are better drivers than ones on Alcohol. When combined use of both drugs, your driving is worst than just on Alcohol.
Education rather than incarceration.
And because it is better than alcohol means it doesn't contribute to accidents. I believe I'll have to disagree with that concept.
We've educated the public on driving drunk and texting/talking for years and years. People still do it...but not if they are behind bars.
It make no sense to put over a million Marijuana user behind bars, other than policing for profit. Where alcohol get away with murder, violence and ruin families.
Text is not good enough, it start with our schooling. When they did show us Reefer Madness in school we students knew it was pure brainwashed BS.
And therefore we should just accept that millions of potheads, driving high, will make a dangerous event even more so?
I fear that I would disagree with that, too.
I would rather my daughter be a pothead than an alcoholic, yet per neither.
America once top narcotics cop with most arrest. Quoted- I rather arrest 500 potheads than one alcoholic. Because the potheads are more polite, peaceful and cooperatives. Where the alcoholic is more violence and more likely to throw up in my police car.
Reverse alcoholic as scheduled 1 and a softer drug Marijuana to schedule 2.
I promise you their will be far less violence, crimes and safer roads.
It will produce safer roads to allow people to drive while high?
Your link to those statistics, please?
You won't get any honest stats from the Feds because they a secret society criminals synthetic frachise Corporations.
Base on Barry Coper who was top American narcotics stats policeman. Had a stats of 17 death a year, have not seen anything higher I can find.
Barry had to flee for his life to Mexico because he tried a show call Copbusters.
You don't have any statistics, then. Why are you then insinuating that it is perfectly safe to drive while high, that you won't cause any more accidents than if you stayed sober?
"According to a review by Kelly, Darke, and Ross,17 laboratory studies examining the effects of marijuana on skills utilised while driving detected impairments in tracking, attention, reaction time, short-term memory, hand-eye coordination, vigilance, time and distance perception, decision making, and concentration."
"In reviewing more recent studies featuring blood samples that detect active THC metabolites, Ramaekers and colleagues29 found that although crash culpability was not elevated for low concentrations of THC, risk of involvement in a traffic crash increased as drivers’ THC levels increased, and became significantly (up to 6.6 times) greater than that for drug free drivers, at higher concentrations of THC."
"A more recent study revealed that increasing instances of driving under the influence of marijuana are associated with an increased risk of motor vehicle accidents. More specifically, after adjusting for confounding variables, young adults in a New Zealand birth cohort who drove under the influence of marijuana more than 20 times across a 4 year period had a risk of collisions 1.4 times greater than did those who had never driven under the influence of marijuana.30"
While none of that is absolutely conclusive, it is a start. And a strong indicator that, at least until better research is done, marijuana and driving don't mix. Even that those people that use and drive belong in the same place that those that drink and drive do: jail.
All I said was Marijuana drivers are safer than drivers on Alcohol. When did I say it was perfectly safe to drive wail high.
Some people who need medical marijuana for health condition that able them to drive better and safer under a degree of drug prescription.
What prescription do doctor give for alcohol in degree for healthy driving.
The reason teen-ager smoke more pot than tobacco is because they know it is much safer than tobacco Then these teenager distrust their parents lies because parents get their lies from authorities whom they cash cow their policing for profit.
Even many foremans would perfer workers who do pot schedule 1. Than workers that do Alcohol or cocaine both schedule 2. Doing drug test is totally counter productive for finding illegal Aliens, unless they doing drugs from another planet.
"The reason teen-ager smoke more pot than tobacco is because they know it is much safer than tobacco"
Baloney. They smoke it because it's illegal, against their parents (and other authorities wishes) and because it gets them high.
"Even many foremans would perfer workers who do pot schedule 1."
As a foreman, I would never prefer pot over sobriety. And anything else is but an excuse to promote the pot. Same for driving; medical weed or not, the only sane course is to remain sober from ALL drugs. If that means you can't drive then you can't drive. Your desire to put others at risk is not worth their life.
If we can't learn to test for pot, then keep it illegal. That will keep (most of) it from behind the wheel and off the job. And put the same teeth into driving high as driving drunk.
Trump wants to punish Abortionist and faminist, ban Muslims, deport all Illegals, reverse gay marriages, keep Marijuana illegal, put down all Politicians, put down all other races and religions except Zionist and whites. and etc and etc....
All the groups of people will never go away, all you can do is protect people from one another. Trump actions are against them, being against anything is a big part of the problem.
Act schedule 1, Teenager in Canada and America per capita smoke pot twice as much than Holland teenagers where the law for pot is scheduled 2.
Proving that being against pot increased by double the teenagers use of pot. Kid are not naturally against their parents and authorities unless they are acting dishonest about the facts.
Schedule 1 on Marijuana/hemp Cannabis mean the is no usefulness or benefit for this plant for humanity purpose.
Nothing could be further from the truth, just opposite from truth. The Cannabis plant species has no other plant on earth that can compare to it"s diversity usefulness and productivity. You could say the same about Zionist who kill or super suppress freedom of all of these other groups. Zionist is the most dangerous group on earth, look to that source of evil as Trump is their man.
"Trump wants to punish Abortionist and faminist, ban Muslims, deport all Illegals, reverse gay marriages, keep Marijuana illegal, put down all Politicians, put down all other races and religions except Zionist and whites. and etc and etc...."
Wild and ridiculous claims, even more so than simple true ones, have a strong need for supporting evidence. Can you show where Trump wishes to do these things, where he said he would ban Muslims, deport all illegals, reverse gay marriages, etc.?
"Kid are not naturally against their parents and authorities unless they are acting dishonest about the facts."
It's called "teenage rebellion". I take you have never raised a teen.
Yes, kids try for their independence at age 2 and mid teens. So I allow them to have it because they are ready to handle those problems. Being open and honest with my daughter has created my best friend. She did have a drug and polygama problem at one time. We weighed out the pros and cons and stopped polygamist thing and moderated the drug problem.
How people believe most things Trump says is beyond me. He states he will create a new supreme Court to appeal the legalization of gay marriage. Ban Muslims from coming into the US and brand Muslims that are here. He says get rid of illegals in the US and build a wall to stop Illegal from coming into the US.
Many people say they love the way Trump speaks his mind. He has no plans on paper or clearly let's anyone know to what degree he will solve these problems, with no filter from his fascist mouth. You would need to pry to get any walking blueprint details from his mind. I know I worked with that dictator.
Trump is like the privatly own Federal reserve who prints money backed by nothing. That nothingness has paid off Trump bankruptcy bills now owns him more than they own us.
Now we have a third world war on our hand well on their way. With billion Christians and a billion Muslims and Zionist 6 million being the scouce of the Problem with Trump as their man. With Zionist Putin together they have 90℅ of the nuclear weapons power and you still want to back these greedy murdering bastards.
"Ban Muslims from coming into the US and brand Muslims that are here."
Link, please, to the video where he says this? You keep making wild (and false) claims about what Trump has said - why don't you back them up with proof?
What your mean? ...take you pick Washington Post..ABC news. So on
The ban on Muslims, the wall and illegal immigrants is the most controversial and popularity topics he has brought up during his campaign. Why all the crying and rioting across the country.
Let's get real ....
You're right - let's get real. Produce a video of Trump saying he wants to brand all Muslims. Or that he will ban any Muslims from entering the country, vetted or not. Or that he will "create" a SCOTUS that will then ban gay marriage.
But don't aske me to prove such ridiculous statements true (I can't as they aren't true) - you do it. You made the claim, you back it up.
I am a low tech guy on a cel phone, everyone of these groups vote lopsidedly against trump, so use please use common sense, anything co-in-cide with you?
2011 fox new YouTube Trump- I am against gay marriage, a traditional guy. Now, Pence is the most anti gay running mate ever. There is on YouTube video of Trump stateing he plans to change gay marriage by supreme Court.
2015 December 15 YouTube . Trump ordered an absolute complete shutdown of Muslims entering into USA. That the biggest mistake next to Mexicans are criminal and rapist and I assume some are good people. He wants Muslims in the US to wear badge's. Kind of Nazi, don't you think.?
"everyone of these groups vote lopsidedly against trump, so use please use common sense, anything co-in-cide with you?"
Common sense tells me that he doesn't have to say anything at all - that there is plenty to hear from lying media and people online doing the same thing. Repeat often enough that he will brand Muslims and people will begin to believe it without it having a shred of truth. And common sense very much tells me that he isn't going to break out the branding irons and brand Muslims whether you claim he is or not.
You definitely need to "vet" your own sources of information far more than you apparently are. Stop, for instance, going from "I don't personally like gay marriage" to "I will change SCOTUS and they will change the law".
Like you and maybe Trump, I am straight. That is no reason to stop 10% of Americans population or the world's gay population from marriage.
If you ultimately love your (not God anyway) wife , then why can't a man love a man ultimately.
Everything I have said I got from the horses mouth Trump on film. I am sure Trump would sue any major network who tampered with his film since he appears more on TV more than Hillary.
Check MSNBC or YoungTurks on Trump wanting to national register all Muslim in America. Even going into Mosque's or anywhere to do so.. That is illegal and unconstitutional. Trump is always too vague about details he says management will sort out the details of illegal immigrants, the wall and badges of muslims.
When I say brand it is because US is Corporation, not a Country and a President can only be of a Corporation not a Country.
But, see, I don't believe you. I don't believe Trump ever said he would change SCOTUS and they would change the law. I think you took a relatively innocent statement and twisted into something that could be used to vilify Trump. Which is why I asked for a link...a link that you have declined to provide, saying you only have a phone and thus cannot support your claims.
If the US is a corporation, where it is that corporation's incorporation papers? In what country were they filed? Who is the CEO? Where are my shares of stock and what is the going value? Who can I sell my shares to? Again, you're saying things that are not true, but only a twisted shadow of what actually IS true.
I have you seen me post links before, I am on the road with limited access to technology.
Just type in the dates, the news or YouTube I gave and the topic, simple. I promise you I heard everything word related to what came out of Trump's mouth, back to the response to every groups that lopsided voted against him, as they all heard it too. The gay, Latinos, Muslim, feminist, Jews, blacks, Chinese and so on lopsided voted against Trump. Only Christian white male are lopsided for trump, only Zionist could fix a lopsided fake result like this.
You have been fully functional since 1913 under the federal reverse Rothschild, Rockefeller and a whole franchises of Corporatism. Even your ID in Capitals letter allowing them ownership of you and debt that will never be paid for and that can only be change by war.
Your Empire and America are finished.
Sorry for being bluntly rude. Now get ready for War with a billion Muslims.
I have seen some of the links. I've heard some of the claims. But you are asking me to do a thorough research of everything Trump has said and determine when it is exaggerated, taken out of context or even outright lied about.
As that has, to date, been most of what is reported or put on U-Tube, I am disinclined to do your research for you. If you had a specific piece of data, that you have already "vetted", I would look at it. But I am not inclined to spend hours/days trying to find something that supports your wild claims.
Hey, Castle, it may not be often, but I agree with Wilderness. I consider both alcohol and cannibis a source of intoxication on the road. The stuff still can alter judgement and the cops need to find a way to test for the drug in case one is pulled over for being suspected of operating a vehicle under its influence. I am not one to see anyone jailed for possession and use of marijuana, but driving under its influence or working at a job under influence would be in a condition of impairment for most people.
When you got Marijuana under the food and drugs laws. Then think why are legal drugs more deadly than Illegal drugs? Both ways are more profitable for the greedy, not the many.
Besides it's our bodies belong to each one of us first, my body and soul are not for the Governments to steal also.
Why accept sugar, alcoholic, cheese, coffee , tobacco all more addictive and far more deadly than the soft drug like Marijuana. Most People have spoken and they want Cannabis to be legal. Good reason too Cannabis is the most important plant in the world. Just another failed democracy vote like Trump's.
I am more proud to be Canadain because diversity mean strength not just about Christians white male lopsidedly thinking and whitewashing. Education is more important than incarnation. I would not leave Canada too if US would not steal Canada when they get too desperate and take it over by the greedy bankers and war.
I thought a true Government soul purpose is to protect it citizens and have a democracy. Not to have everything backward including America being the leading terrorist in the World.
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