Finally, Police are taking down protesters blocking traffic.

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   colorfuloneposted 7 years ago

   Obama's stand-down orders have been changed, now police can deal with the anarchists and anti-Donald Trump protesters from blocking traffic.  They took these guys down gently but firmly. 
   
   Portland Police respond to protesters blocking traffic 1/25/2017
   *  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0f3SnOiqcs
   
   Several videos of the incident surfaced on social media after the altercation.
   
   Its about time, the tables are turned.  These anarchists and protesters are far-left-wingers, and everyone should be glad to see the police being allowed to do their jobs. 
   
   The George Soros' bused in and paid for anarchists have become a joke...thanks to President Trump.  This is a great start, and a very big favor for the Democrats.

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      Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      The protests will continue regardless of the conservative and rightwing desire to muzzle all forms of dissent in regards to the reign of the Chosen One. The real issue is that conservatives do not like dissent and the media attention it gets and what it takes from Trump.
      
      There still is a line regarding the right to protest verses violence to persons, destruction of property or otherwise interfering with the public thoroughfare. The recent woman's march was an example of a successful protest and I am encouraging dissenters to work along that model, acquiring permits if necessary.
      
      Despite of the Trump regime, the Left will fight tooth and nail to retain the right of peaceful protest, whether the Political Right likes it or not. You can't be afraid of a few people voicing their displeasure, after all, you have the White House and both Chambers of Congress?

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         colorfuloneposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         The riot police were actually being cheered.  Yes! Public support in the street for beating down Antifa anarchist protesters that were blocking traffic as they screamed and leaned on vehicles.  They didn't really even have a message.  They were just blocking traffic and disrupting business of people who may or may not support Trump.
         
         "Given their behavior during the inaugurations, when Antifa rioters smashed up businesses and violently attacked Trump supporters - it couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of people."
         
         I don't like seeing the riot police out in full gear out on the streets. I don't like seeing people thrown down and arrested mob-style by police.  That is the last thing I want to see.  But, as Ron Paul said, if these protesters continue in their behavior in the streets, they will be the ones that bring in martial law.  This is just the fact. These Antifa protesters need to get themselves under control because if they don't THEY will be the reason martial law is brought in, not Donald Trump.  Spread the word!
         
         Why would anyone want martial law?   Are they idiots?
         I am for freedom of speech and we all know Trump is. Violence and disruptions like blocking traffic is not a right, its against the law.  It has to stop before they ruin it for everyone.  But, finally the police are not being ordered to stand down! 
         
         Hopefully, those idiots will get the message loud and clear soon.
         
         Added:  Its not difficult to stay on topic.

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         PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         The womens march was not a successful model because " they were afraid of a few women that wanted to voice their opinion and protest. "  and excluded them.

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            Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I dunno, Phoenix, 3 to 4million participants across the globe in protest on exactly the same day seems pretty successful to me. Look at all that great media coverage!!

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               PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               Doesnt matter if it was 8 billion. And of course they are going to get media. Even Hellen Keller knows thats a given.  They messed up excluding other women. Not too enlightened and sophisticated if everyone must think exactly the same way. Are they women with their own minds or not. It was funded by Soros.

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                  PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Edit.
                  
                  I dont care about Soros funding it, but HE is a partner but women with their own minds are not?
                  
                  
                  Money talked and women had to walk away.

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                  Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  That's BS, Phoenix, the Right is downright intimidated and justifiably so, but there is nothing they can do about it.  The Hair Apparent may well find that his reach will well exceed his grasp, and this is just the beginning........ I will demolish the reactionary's edifice one brick at a time.

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                     PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     I would prefer rebuttal to the points specifically. Saying you will demolish something along with the claim of some reactionary seems contradictory. Orange Sauron is not likely intimidated.

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                        Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        Look, Phoenix, the fact that the March is illegimate to you regardless of the depth and breath of participation is not lost on me. There are now so many protests, like brush fires around the country and I can only admonish my comrades in arms to stay peaceful and law abiding in their protests. We don't want to provoke the Trump regime and his jackbooted responses, now do we? I have heard only spotted reports about women that were excluded. But, it has been hailed as far more successful than otherwise and you can bet when the ladies get home they are not going back to knitting, there are further plans in the making.This has been the largest protest in American history and you poo-poo it?
                        
                        I don't like right wingers nor their manner of thought, that you already know. What is it that you want me to specifically rebut?

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                           PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           
                           Well if they are breaking the law it wont be some chimera with jackboots it will just be the police. The imagination is getting out of control. Ideas have the ability cause negative outcomes.  It becomes self fulfilling. Youre a man. Right? Can you tell me no woman has groped you? They have me. Most of the time it was okay. Not every time. Have you ever heard women talk on a couple martinis? Make Trump blush probably. You know how much heroin coming into the country, where its coming from and how many od? This is 2017 and we are wide open for another 911. All that is prolly moot point. Hillary and Trump probably drinking mimosas and lol at us. Well Trump probably drinking and Hillary is prolly having a her usual bag of o neg.

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                              Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              The idea of breaking the law is not my point. But Trump and the Right do not want protests peaceful or not, it is a form of dissent of which the rightwinger cannot abide. The climate that Trump encourages will just dismiss atrocities and abuses by municipal cops. It is the next best thing to jackboots on the ground.
                              
                              Trumps ideas and practices and those of the GOP establishment that he sucks up to will be the source of negative outcome, we are all just getting a taste.
                              
                              It not just the derogatory comment Trump makes about women, it is his agenda in regards to womens rights generally, and I will bring up specific areas of concern upon request. That was what the march was all about. Just because these women are not fast to slide into Trump's column hardly makes them crazy but makes them wary and smart.
                              
                              And I know about the drugs, that problem has been festering since at least the Reagan Era, nothing new there.
                              
                              I wasn't that hot for Hillary but saw her as a better alternative compared to Trump. Better a left/moderate establishment then a rightwinger who labels himself a populist, whose turning the clock back to the Flintstones.

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                                 PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                 Regarding agendas of womens rights, we are just talking about the women that agree with you, and that group but not all women. Is that fair?

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                                    Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                    But the protests and the sheer size tell you the ideological position of a vastly larger portion of women, who follows rightwing women  at anywhere near this magnitude? Which woman wants to dabble with the Right, effectively hangstringer herself?

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                                       PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                       Tough day at the office here I gotta clock out and go home.

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                                          Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                          That is great, Phoenix, enjoyed our sparring. Until next time, have a nice evening.

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                                       colorfuloneposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                       One speaker at the march, Donna Hylton, is a convicted felon who took part in the kidnapping of 62-year-old real-estate broker Thomas Vigliarolo and held him for ransom, torturing, sodomizing with a three foot pipe and murder of an old man.   Why?  Because he was a Homo anyway, said one of Hylton's accomplices.
                                       *  http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=56183
                                       
                                       After serving her time Donna Hylton is demanding better treatment in prisons.   Oh, really?

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                                          Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                          Yes, but what is one speaker among almost 5 millions? Are you going to discredit the entire March because of one speaker?

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                                             colorfuloneposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                             Yes, but you disqualified your "yes" followed by a 'but'.  I expected that in away I suppose.  How progressive!  Do you have any thoughts like its a pity she got to go free, or it's too late to execute this truly despicable criminal, she doesn't deserve better treatment in prison than she got, or anything like that?  No remorse as far as I know for taking part in the torture and murder of another human being.

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                                                Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                                There are criminal atrocities that take place around us everyday, you seem to be implying that this one sordid person is representative for the millions of people who marched.  That is misleading and incorrect.

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                        colorfuloneposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           So true!

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                  colorfuloneposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Its true the so-called Women's March didn't allow any women to join in the march that aren't mentally deranged like they are.   It was funded by the evil Soros.

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      colorfuloneposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Micah Rhodes, an anti-Trump protest leaders of Portland’s Resistance was arrested for sexually abusing a boy.  He was already a registered sex offender.  Pedophiles sure are anti-Trump,  oh, that speaks volumes.     
      
      This is the kind of scum leading protests?  Yepperz!   Lock them up one by one.  Repeat sexual offenders don't deserve to living free in a nation like America because they abuse that freedom.  Thank God this creep was caught.   
      
      May he find Jesus in prison and turn his life around, I pray. 
      *  http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/31/leade … ing-minor/
      *  http://www.kgw.com/news/crime/portland- … /394582060
      *  http://koin.com/2017/01/30/portlands-re … ual-abuse/

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         Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

         So how many pedophiles are pro-Trump?

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            colorfuloneposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            You go find some authentic political statistics, only original sources, I bet there aren't any....but I'm sure you could make some up!
            
            Let them out of the closet.

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               Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

               Any of us can just 'bet', I doubt is there is such a statistic one way or the other, but that does not substatiate your point nor perspective.

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                  colorfuloneposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  You would most likely not 'get' my point or my perspective in the first place, because we are as far as the East is to the West as far as perspectives go.
                  
                  Gosh, a pedophile got arrested and he was a anti-Trump protest leader.  Hmmm!   Methinks you protest too much about my perspective.

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                     Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     "because we are as far as the East is to the West as far as perspectives go"
                     
                     This is true, I know that it is time for the sanitarium if I drift to closely to your perspective on most things.

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                        colorfuloneposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        Ecclesiastes 10:2-3   "A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him toward the left.  Even when the fool walks along the road, his sense is lacking and he demonstrates to everyone that he is a fool.…"
                        
                        Leftie Micah Rhodes, the pedophile, anti-Trump protest leader is a fool.   
                        Maybe he needs to go to a sanitarium?  Repeat sex offenders are insane.
                        I do hope he will repent and turn his life around.

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                           Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           Today's rightwinger is anything but wise. The analogy you make with biblical text is of no meaning at all, so why use it?

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                              Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              Maybe colorfull is right about Antichrist. A country with more Christians than anywhere in the world will have more Antichrist and Satanist than anywhere. Glad I'm not anti anything or against anything or I would be part of the problem. I just recognize in Trump an emotional and mentally retard that many doctors across America online do concur.

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                              colorfuloneposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              See!  You totally missed my point, perspective and analogy.  Are all Spiritual things meaningless to you?  I
                              
                              I guess it would depend on which rightwingers you refer to.  Some are not Christians, some are Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists,  WJs, Mormons, etc.   Some are not of any faith at all.   Some are doctors, scientists, bakers, barbers, politicians, pastors, prophets, apostles, teachers, students...
                              
                              Your just biased, being hypocritical and intolerant because of political differences. 
                              
                              So! What do you think of the anti-Trump activist, Micah Rhodes, the pedophile?  Is the likes of him ok in your book because he is a leftwinger?  I'd like him to get his life right and stop being a fool.

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                                 Castlepalomaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                 The sex card, that Trump can never win. What next drones in our bedrooms. God is bad enough sitting on our bedside.

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                                 Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                 Colorfulone, why don't you come off of it? Just because many of us choose not to march to the drum of the Christian Right does not mean that we are devoid of appreciation for spiritual concepts.
                                 
                                 You are the one that in your argument seem to be implying that pedophiles and Anti-Trump have a correlation. You can't substatiate that. Based upon Trump policy to date, I have not been in his corner, does that make me a pedophile?
                                 
                                 But rightwingers always see bias from the left and ignore their own?
                                 
                                 As a pedophile, Rhodes should have to pay whatever price is appropriate under the law, but as one who stands against Trump he is fine in my book.
                                 
                                 Trump will have a way to go before he receives any compliment from me.

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                                    colorfuloneposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                    Cred, thank you for coming off it and coming down to earth a bit.  My post was about the anti-Trump activist, Micah Rhodes, the pedophile.  Thank you for your input on-topic.  It doesn't hurt to show your humanity once in awhile now does it.   For some reason pedophiles disgust me. Don't take it personal.
                                    
                                    "But rightwingers always see bias from the left and ignore their own?"
                                    But leftwingers always see bias from the right and ignore their own?
                                    
                                    One should not use such broad strokes to paint either political side.  I see that happen in the forums a lot, I've been guilty at times and really do try to do better.  I do leave out words like "always" or "never"... that just doesn't work in politics or poker.   
                                    
                                    We are individuals here in the forums.
                                    You've seen me post about Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama... and its been pretty much status quo corruption.

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                                       Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                       You are most welcome, Colorfulone. No one like pedophiles and their political affiliation one way or the other does not change that. I am well known as a lefty, but that does not mean that I am unreasonable.
                                       
                                       I mean, really, you think that Trump is so much different then the men that you have mentioned?

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                                          colorfuloneposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                          "I mean, really, you think that Trump is so much different then the men that you have mentioned?"
                                          
                                          If you mean Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama?   The answer is, yes, I do think so. I believe so. I am seeing a big difference because Trump is actually trying to accomplish what he said he would. 
                                          
                                          I'm glad he backed off on torture, that was something I didn't agree with.  I hope Trump won't impose more surveillance on people, we've had too much of that piled us since 9/11. 
                                          
                                          There is going to be an all out battle ahead when Trump puts a halt to the H1-VISA abuse.  I think what we've seen so far is just silliness to get people riled up.  Exciting times ahead when he takes on Silicon Valley, the big money corporations are already starting to cry.

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   ahorsebackposted 7 years ago

   I'm a realist and I do not understand why we can't call America's protesters exactly what they are ----Anarchists !  And , for the most part they are uninformed of the politics of the  issue  in general as well as of the subject they protest specifically !    Take the woman's march - They call out  Trump for the exact things that they SHOULD have called out  Obama and  the Clintons for , ...........AND , if women protest bigotry , sexism ,  religious , inequality  and burn the American flag ?...........etc.
   
   Why don't they center their protests AT the particular foreign  embassies that  represent populations and politics of the eleventh century or earlier ?  The  Iranian , Syrian ,Iraqi  , Mexico , Somalia , even the European countries that  have tighter controls over even women rights than America does  ?
   Go burn their embassies , vehicles , flags ,if you really want to make a statement  .
   
   Hypocrisy lives ,especially in  all the protest marchers !

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      Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      For some people, anyone who marches against right wing oppression and tyranny is an anarchist....
      
      It has to do with  nothing  more than your voicing displeasure and dissent or just simply being there.
      
      For me,  that  attitude is dead in the water at the start.

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         colorfuloneposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         No rapists, murders, or crazy celebs were at the March for Life. 
         
         No one was nasty, repulsive, disrespectful, calling names, revolting, disgusting, abhorrent, repugnant, offensive, vile, foul, loathsome, sickening, nauseating, hateful, detestable, monstrous, noxious, horrendous, obnoxious, unsavory, unpleasant, distasteful or promoting ideas of terrorism....like they had at many the so-called anarchist Women's March events. 
         
         I saw enough video footage to make me sick and ashamed of women that are nut-cases, with liberal mental disorders.
         
         Oh, there were real women marching, speaking and protesting for real women's rights, like the women who suffer under Sharia law.   But, they weren't acting out like the ones mentioned above, they acted like respectable ladies.

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