After 5 months, Fox rates Donald Trumps at 44% Approve-50% Disapprove

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   My Esotericposted 5 years ago

   Behind Fox's numbers are these results (Fox results are at upper end of polls):
                                          Men  Women      White  Non-White

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      wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I'd have to say that that is pretty darned high considering the tremendous amount of negative media coverage and hate directed at the man.  Never in the history of the office have we seen such negativity OR hatred.

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         promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         I refer you to the post below and ask if you think Trump is responsible for at least some of his negative media coverage.
         
         http://hubpages.com/politics/forum/1420 … d-facelift

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            wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            No.  Without even reading it, no.  People are responsible for what they say; they are NOT responsible for lies from others.
            
            On the other hand, he says some pretty stupid things, things that he should know better, and there is little wrong with repeating them...until that's all you do.  A balanced conversation is so much more useful (unless the desired result is to demonize, not understand).

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               promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               I'm not sure I understand what you mean by saying he is not responsible for negative coverage and then say it's OK to report his "pretty stupid" comments.

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         MizBejabbersposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         "Never in the history...."  Ha! Some people have short memories and have forgotten all the hate directed at Bill Clinton when he was president. I got so tired of picking up the paper and reading:  "Slick Willy's done it again!" only to find some nonsense that some republican yokel didn't understand or approve of. Forgotten are the years of hate and malice from special prosecutor Kenneth Starr that never went anywhere while at the same time the Bushes were able to extricate themselves and their son, Neil, from the Silverado S&L deal. You Repubs have it easy. The Donald just isn't part of the "in crowd".

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         My Esotericposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         So, Willderness, I would assume if mainstream media (Fox probably ignored it) reports on Trumps vile tweet this morning, it wasn't his fault they reported it? (just to pick 1 of a 1000 or more to choose from)

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         My Esotericposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         As to "never in the history", you have clearly forgotten the vile, omnipresent, unparalleled spewing of hatred, invective, and outright lies by the Right from before day 1 of Obama's presidency, and it hasn't stopped to this day.
         
         The main stream media doesn't need to make stuff up (which they wouldn't anyway, unless make a mistake which, unlike Trump and Fox, they admit to and correct); Trump just keeps feeding it to them, tweet after tweet, day after day.

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            promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            To your point, CNN just fired three journalists for getting a story wrong and admitted the error.

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               ahorsebackposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               " CNN got a story wrong " yea I guess ,...... That story was about admitting the whole bogus Russia -Trump connection .
               
               Not exactly ," ....getting a story wrong ......."

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                  My Esotericposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Since " That story was about admitting the whole bogus Russia -Trump connection ."  is pure hyperbole, your comment has no meaning.

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                     ahorsebackposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     Oh wow , YOU found the evidence  that no one else has ?
                     
                     Uhh Hunn!

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                  promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Not at all. Get your facts straight!

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         Kathleen Cochranposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Never in our history has such a contemptible person been elected president.  How is anyone supposed to report on such a deplorable president?  Talk about the classic Kill the Messenger!

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      promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Fox uses Rasmussen Reports, which always has high numbers for Republicans because it sells its services only to Republicans.
      
      The Gallup daily poll is a better source.
      
      http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallu … roval.aspx

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      My Esotericposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I am guessing all of the other poll numbers I put in didn't appear.  Bummer, that was a lot of work.

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      My Esotericposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      What was cut off in my opening discussion were statistics showing that much of the remaining support fell into three overlapping groups:
        1.  Conservatives (as opposed to liberals and moderates) and white Evangelicals
        2.  Those 45 and over
        3.  Those with no college diploma
       
      It is interesting to note that those who consider themselves Independents lean much more to the Right than those who think of themselves as moderate.  40% of independents approved of the job Trump is doing while only 30% of moderates felt the same way.

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         promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         The higher number of independents who lean more to the right is the result of the Republican party losing more members in recent years than the Democrats.

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            ahorsebackposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            Oh THAT"S why all the loss of the left in senate , the house , congress ,  they all left an became independent voters  ?

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               promisemposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               No. The Dems lost the House and Senate because of Vladimir Putin, sheep that believe Fox News and Breitbart, and billionaire Republicans who no longer have any campaign spending limits.

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                  ahorsebackposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Putin had about as much to do with the election losses  as  Hilary Clinton had to do with delivering honesty  to the voting masses .
                  
                  Got proof ? Give it up dude , the world awaits .

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                     My Esotericposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     As to honesty, there is plenty of proof that Hillary is an order of magnitude more honest than Trump ... but you won't believe any of it because you will call it fake news.
                     
                     While I think if Hillary had been a better campaigner, then Putin and Comey, or even the dysfunctional DNC would have altered the outcome.  But she wasn't which means each one of the other three reasons played a roll in her loss. 
                     
                     Trumps margin of victory was razor thin in traditionally Blue states.  This means that if the DNC been better organized on the ground, she would have won.  Had Comey not wrongly inferred new Clinton emails were on Anthony Wieners computer, she would have won.  And if Putin had not run his drip, drip, drip propaganda offensive, she would have won.
                     
                     The Ds gained ground in both the House and the Senate, but not as much as they should have.  I think the reasons are because this is a much more divided country than in previous elections, ticket splitting was at its lowest point in modern history along with the Ds failing to get out the black and Latino vote.
                     
                     Finally, Promisen is quite correct in thinking consumers of Right-wing media are more likely than others to become unthinking supporters of whoever they chose as their authority figures. 
                     
                     Study after study support this.  Google Right-wing Authoritarian followers.

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            GA Andersonposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            promisem, I can see your point that the Republican party is losing members, and that those members, now as independents, are leaning away from Pres. Trump, but are still leaning Right. Even so, do you see that as a gain for the Democrats?
            
            GA

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   Alphadogg16posted 5 years ago

   I wouldn't believe anything that comes from Fox. Quinnipiac has him at 40% and USA Today at 42%. @Wilderness I'm pretty sure Obama received just as much, if not more hatred than Trump. Most of Trumps is self inflicted and could be alleviated if he just shut his mouth. If he could just get things done without talking, that would great.

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      My Esotericposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I used Fox because that is the only thing, besides Brietbart, Limbaugh, and Dridge, that the Right will believe. Also, Fox polling is the only thing about Fox that I trust, and that is only because I know how they do their polling and statistics and it is a legitimate methodology

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