Breaking news. Just learnt ICAN just won the Nobel Prize. It means

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   threekeysposted 5 years ago

   there is worldwide legislation to ban the most lethal nuclear weapons. I believe our humanity has just tipped in favour of the planet. We made it! Now, what do we need to do or say to remind ourselves that we all belong to one another? What argument could we put forward to to gain that understanding or clarity?

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      Venkatachari Mposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, I have seen the news in the Washington Post and shared it already on Facebook and Pinterest.
      I am very glad that the Nobel Prize is awarded to them.

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      The0NatureBoyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      I recently wrote a hub "The Bible's Message" which explains what I'm about to say here in greater details.
      
      The "Zeroverse" [universe] is a living entity and everything associated with it is a part of it. Our individual bodies have Billions of different cells, yet they are all a part of us. The earth is a living entity and everything growing and living in, on or flying in the atmosphere just above it are all a part of it although they all have different responsibilities and duties.
      
      It is the nature of man, being the only specie to have judgmental adjectives, to over consume the earth's living entities to satisfy their ignorantly rejecting of the earth's conditions. We do it to the extent that everything done by man has to be destroyed, including man-en-mass, to allow the earth to maintain its balance from this material civilization through a transition into a spiritual one and transition back to this one without beginning or end. So, to get man to realize that fact - not an opinion - we will began the healing process even before this civilization is destroyed. However, it is so far gone and man are not willing to do what is required to reverse it that transition will come anyway within most of our lifetimes.
      
      That makes it clear but we need "the son of man" installed as the president to implement the Constitution in the USA - the world's ruler - and use it to govern all nations (Revelation 12:5) as with a rod of iron.

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         threekeysposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         Zeroverse is a new word for me. Thankyou.
         An explanation of what our world needs is worthy to ponder. However, I flinch when a proposal offers an inflexible Will or method. To me authouriatarianism is what we need less of. I personally would like the UN  to have a stronger/bigger impact.

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            The0NatureBoyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            I created that term because the only whole umber is zero. Number one (1) is half of zero and all of the other numbers are a division of one, yet, they all have a negative that when added to its positive value becomes zero, the whole. Likewise, little do we know that "human" and "woman" are halves - or parts - of man. "Hu" means "cut from..." and "wo" means "woven from whole man". "Man" means "mind able to comprehend all things" but when hewed or woven from or to have had something "hewed or woven" from something leaves it incomplete so they both means "minds unable to comprehend all things" and not one a gender and the other the specie.
            
            There is no more flexibility to what happens with the earth than it is for for man to change the 24 hours of a day or 365.25 days of the year, the Zeroverse is just as repetitious throughout as days and years are and everything happens time and time again exactly the same way. For each of the 365 days of the year man can predict the exact moment the sum will appear on the eastern horizon [sunrise] and disappear behind the western's [sunset] for every day of the year exactly, so why shouldn't everything in existence happen the same way?
            
            The UN, little do we know, is working to implement the "Patriot Act" for the NWO to reduce the earth to 500 million man. Prophecy, on the other hand, suggest the number will be between 350 and 400 million who reproduce another equal amount during the first millennium after the world [civilization] ends. Then together the 700 to 800 Million will reproduce, over the following six millenniums, those necessary to return the population to 700 to 800 Billion for the next civilization without birth or death (Revelation 20:4-5 & chapter 21).
            
            Prophecy is the same as man's ability to predict all sunrises and sunsets, the only difference is no one lives the whole 182,000 year cycle in one body to be able to say they have seen it before.

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               threekeysposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Yout ideas about our future, do you have a article you could send us to?
               So, are you saying from your knowing thetr will still be a major war and the UN will allow it?

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                  threekeysposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Apologies, for my typos.

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                  The0NatureBoyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  No problem about the typos. I've learned that the "more" with the arrow pointing to the right found in the bottom of the box will allow one to correct them.
                  
                  I was a nomad for 39 years before landing in DC so I hardly keep any information sources making my answer "no I do not have access to my references".
                  
                  However, there were thing, both recently and through the years that imply by my interpretation of what was written that forming the UN is also associated with the "New World Order" and any secret society they are using. They suggests the reason the UN is in the USA is because the US is to be the nation to control the NWO that being the only Atomic bomb owner produced. I can't even give titles of articles or videos most of the time and don't have them concerning that.

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                     threekeysposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     Your last paragraph? Worries me.
                     I would you enjoy reading about your life as a nomad. What you larnt about life and people. I cannot help but think your instincts would be highly sensitive; and you would  have developed a strong belief in yourself. Something maybe not all of us have the opportunity to do so.

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                        The0NatureBoyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        My life's story, until 2019 when I came to DC, is called THE BOOK OF ELIJAH: A LETTER TO THE WORLD on my website found http://prop1.org/protest/elijah/nature.htm and what's written in most of my hugs are my life story and learning.
                        
                        Yes, my instincts are usually very sensitive but being stationary and living indoors since 2009 has dulled them a little. Almost everything I say stems from their sensitivity.
                        
                        A short version...
                        What I did after going through a "new conception" between September and October 1973 was to tell what we call god that I was going to reject everything I had learned and wanted [him] to teach me. That is why almost everything I say makes me controversial to the left, right and even the [believed to be] middle path people.
                        
                        I became a preacher in '74 and in late '75 was preaching "Follow Jesus" and felt I was a hypocrite telling others to do something I had not done so I told god "if you want me to give up everything give me a date". The reply was "this is to be  your decision, you give me a date". Since I had began working for SouthWestern Bell, Dallas, TX, on August 7, '73 I told god I would give it up on August 6, '76, which is when I became born. The rest is my history or walking away from the job and a paycheck of $335 per week before taxes which was going to become $600 had I not been "reborn", wife, apartment of furniture and two cars.

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         Venkatachari Mposted 5 years agoin reply to this

         This is a very insightful approach to the universe and mankind. The term coined by you above "Zeroverse" is new to me also. Man needs to perceive everything as part and parcel of the universe and accept all living and non-living objects as particles of his own complete nature and love everything around him.

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            The0NatureBoyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

            There are no nonliving objects in the Zeroverse, therefore, everything in it is a living entitie without exceptions.
            
            Yes, that is exactly what I was attempting to to explain, your "Man needs to perceive everything as part and parcel of the universe and accept all living and non-living objects as particles of his own complete nature and love everything around him" made it so simple. Thanks for the short version.

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               wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

               Re-defining terms without providing your personal, new, definition doesn't help discussion.  You have just claimed that stars and asteroids grow, reproduce, absorb and use nutrients, evolve, respond to stimuli, etc.
               
               Perhaps you should use a new word (sdoklve, maybe, instead of "living") and then provide a definition?

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                  The0NatureBoyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                  Doesn't everything in man grow, the cells, bones, and everything else that is a part of us grow? Although our heart  doesn't grow its muscle's cells grow and still the heart remains as it always was, so it is with the stars, planets, and not the other bodies within the Zeroverse grow the same way. The micro is the same as the macro, only in different proportions.
                  
                  The definition for woman is defined in the Bible's Genesis 2:23 "And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man." Eve was woven from man which made her woman, Adam had Eve woven from him making him woman or don't you read that completely? Then, give the prefix "hu" a similar definition and we have both worlds meaning the SAME THINGS.
                  
                  That is why the Bible Calls the USA "Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth". Babylon means to babble and because babble means to speak without understanding what is being said and the USA doesn't properly defined many words she is that mystery nation where its people doesn't know what they are saying when they speak.
                  
                  The word man means "mind", Homo Sapiens means "mind able to become wise" and wisdom is in everything therefore man means "mind able to comprehend all things". Cross referencing definitions will bring understanding of definitions. "Uni" is Spanish for one and because it has a positive and a negative of each and zero does not, then the only whole is Zeroverse. Again, a cross reference.

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                     wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                     Wasn't talking about "living" (dictionary definition) things; was talking about your claim that "non-living" (same definition) things are actually living.  Talking about human cells doesn't say a thing about asteroids being live and exhibiting the properties of living organisms.

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                        The0NatureBoyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                        If you were to look closely at the earth you would find matter changing. Take clay, of instance, it will become rocks and the rocks will become other matter we call nonliving. We say water is nonliving but it's oxygen changes metals from "fire changed into pure" back into an ore, those are evidence of being alive and consuming of one another. What they are doing is about the same our bodies do with our food.
                        
                        You have eaten science's concepts of "what is" and not observed for yourself "what is" is your problem. But that is also a condition the Zeroverse intended and require of man-en-mass in order for the cycles within it to to continue.

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                           wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                           Chemical reactions are not "evidence of being alive", not under the accepted definition of "life".  Your problem is that you are giving a new definition to that term, and pretending it is somehow the "right" one.  It isn't.
                           
                           When that rock reproduces itself, when it responds to stimuli, when it requires food to sustain it's "living" status, when it evolves into something it wasn't, and through more than a simple chemical reaction...then we can talk about it being "alive".

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                              The0NatureBoyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                              Or we can realize the oxidation of metals is oxygen eating some part of metal like our bodies only eat certain parts of the food we ingests. We are then [supposed to] put the un ingested food back on the earth for other species to consume parts of, including the very plants we consumed, and the cycle continues indefinitely.
                              
                              Some form of organism has eaten the clay to the point that it hardens into rocks and another organism consumes some of it to cause it to become another substence and the evolution continues until the clay is reformed. Thus, earth and every organism [planets of organisms of the galaxy which is an organism of another larger body etc]  in existence are living entities like the organs in man are living entities whose material is consumed but the organ remains until the individual body discarnate and is consumed.

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                                 wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                 But "eating" does not refer to a simple chemical reaction.  You are again re-defining terminology in the hopes that the original meaning will be accepted as now meaning something else and thus giving a connection that isn't there.
                                 
                                 The only possible way your imagined "living" universe exists is to decide that because an almost infinitely small portion of it is alive it means the entire thing is.  Doesn't work for me.

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                                    The0NatureBoyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                    Consuming, whether by mouth or not is still eating. Fire's consuming fuel is eating it and it's byproduct is smoke and ashes. Call it a chemical reaction or eating they are the same. What you are suggesting is like saying that entities that come out of eggs are not alive because the egg was outside of the body when it hatched but it is still a birth. Consuming is eating, Period.

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                                       wildernessposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                       That's what I said: you wish to redefine "eating" to include inanimate actions that have nothing to do with "eating" in the sense that life "eats", and then say that a different sense of the word implies it IS the same.  Doesn't work.
                                       
                                       No, consuming isn't eating; rust does not "eat" cars.  Not in the sense that I "eat" a hamburger.

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                                       Venkatachari Mposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                       This discussion or argument is going very interesting. But, I will not take any sides. Because both of you are good and seem reasonable also in your arguments. I can arrive at some in-between conclusion.

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                                       The0NatureBoyposted 5 years agoin reply to this

                                       There is what is called "the lowest common denomination" in math and can also be used in word's definitions, that is what I do, continue to keep the definitions and find a common definition through logical reasoning while researching them. That produced the fact that oxygen eats something out of metal and causes it to break down into ore once again, the fire eats the oxygen out of the ore and produces "pure metal". It's the same human/woman, during this civilization, over consumes of the earth to the extent that if continued the earth could not sustain itself so a source of understanding brings an end to their consuming for another civilization to become imbalanced in the opposite way and bring an end to it. Thus, the earth maintains its balance because an imbalance causes its balance like the spinning motion of earth prevent the 30 degree tilt from allowing the earth to fall on it's side.
                                       
                                       So you may call it something other than eating like oxidation but that doesn't mean oxidation isn't also eating. Animated life consumes oxygen to aid our food digesting while plants costume carbon to digest its food yet we say plants are eating just as we say man are. Human/woman also have some of all metals in our bodies like the earth does so why isn't the earth living like we are?

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      bhattucposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      It is really an excellent thing that this 10 year old organisation ICAN got this prestigious award. It will definitely a shot in its arm and will provide it a good financial help also for strengthening its activities worldwide.

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   threekeysposted 5 years ago

   Good news and a HUGE relief!

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